Giancarlo
Nintendo connoiseur
you are correct, most of Nintendo games testing is handling by Mario Club and Digital HeartsI assume most QA on Nintendo games is handled by Mario Club and Digital Hearts, at least initially?
you are correct, most of Nintendo games testing is handling by Mario Club and Digital HeartsI assume most QA on Nintendo games is handled by Mario Club and Digital Hearts, at least initially?
Honest question: is this really the case when the Switch and its new games are still selling quite well? Obviously the sales are not what they were years ago, but it is still selling fairly well especially considering its age. Maybe Nintendo wants to draw this continued success out as long as possible before they take a risk with a new platform? They're probably quite anxious after the failure of Wii U and want to let Switch go as long as it can before they replace it.It really depends on how late it releases. A potential delay from Fall 2024 to March 2025 (before the fiscal year ends) is not a big deal, but if the system slips into later 2025 and misses the next fiscal year, we will officially be in "seriously what the hell are you doing?" territory and some leadership positions need to be questioned.
Yeah probably thisIf the Switch 2 doesn't release in 2025, then the Switch 2's sales in 2025 are going to be horrible, yes.
Respectfully disagree (within reason). The tech is dated sure but not outdated.one thing for sure, the more they delay the switch 2, the tech will start becoming really outdated at launch
You know something we don't?Since this thread got created, Switch 2 has got pushed back to the second half of 2025.
Further...Further...
Sorry, my post wasn't serious. I just thought the thread title suggesting it keeps getting pushed further and further away was a bit dramatic.You know something we don't?
You know something we don't?
This right here.Where did “further and further” come from? As far as we know this was only delayed internally once.
Switch 1 also was delayed internally from Summer 2016 to March 2017.
The Switch 2 release date can’t slip into the future if it hasn’t even been announced.
It's still that, according to Bloomberg it could be pushed further.What's the current rumoured Switch 2 release date? Last I heard it was Early 2025?
If it was backwards compatible it would have lots of games.In theory, the switch 2 could be announced tomorrow, released next week, not have enough games, and be a failure. But at least, if the hardware comes out now it will be less obsolete than if it comes out later. Yaaay.
Backward compatibility will be a necessary quality but absolutely not sufficient in my opinion. People need games that motivate them to buy a new console. I love Mario, probably more than Zelda if I’m honest. But I don’t know if a new Mario game, even if it is absolutely exceptional and even if I wait for it with a huge desire and a huge impatience, will be able to do what breath of the wild has accomplished for the switch.If it was backwards compatible it would have lots of games.
FWIW, Switch's current hardware numbers at ~7 years are pretty comparable to Wii at ~4 years in late 2010, and software still stronger than Wii ever saw, so I think to get as bad a situation as Wii->WiiU would probably take launch being 2026 or later.At some point it will be harder to use the synergy of current Switch for the next console. If it would release after early 2025, they would basically need either bigger games to keep Switch alive or then have a strong new approach to get back their audience.
At least for now it‘s not too late that they can win over most of the Switch Userbase, though I feel like it lost a quite a bit of relevancy in the past few months for many.
They come dangerously close to the situation where they were 2011-2012 with the Wii. No one really cared for the Wii anymore, because there were not too many new big games, the brand didn‘t really evolve since the launch of the console and it felt ancient to other platforms, while casual audiences moved on to mobile.
I think the expectation are huge for 3D Mario, since Bowser fury showed us a glimpse of the next Mario game. An seamless open world, in which you can go boot up the game and not think of loading screen, like having the thought of Mario having a platforming challenge of climbing a mountain to reach a secret Snow level, just sounds like absolute Cinema. Like the 3D Mario team are in my opinion one of the most impressive developers in the industry.Backward compatibility will be a necessary quality but absolutely not sufficient in my opinion. People need games that motivate them to buy a new console. I love Mario, probably more than Zelda if I’m honest. But I don’t know if a new Mario game, even if it is absolutely exceptional and even if I wait for it with a huge desire and a huge impatience, will be able to do what breath of the wild has accomplished for the switch.
It is a game that has brought a new audience to the franchise and brought many players back to Nintendo.
A new Zelda will be missing at the launch of the next console in my opinion, but the next console will have Metroid Prime 4, the first new Mario kart for 10 years, a Pokémon from the first year what was not the case initially for the switch 1, and obviously 3D Mario which in my opinion will be the launch game and which will be extraordinarily important for the future.
If there's a new Donkey Kong game for the switch 2 i'll be set for liveWhether the Switch 2 comes out in November 2024 or March 2025 will not change anything. The success of the console will be determined solely by the games. One of the most important keys to the success of the Switch was Nintendo's remarkable ability to consistently release numerous first-party games every year. If this trend continues with the Switch 2, then there will be no impediment to the console's success. If there are plenty of games to play, players are happy.
Anyone voting yes will still be begrudgingly buying a Switch 2 even if it released in 2026.
The only people affected by these unannounced internal delays are us, the insular forum dwelling folks of a Nintendo-enthusiast board. I agree patience is wearing thin and it's increasingly frustrating that Nintendo is playing dumb as if we don't know it's coming, but at the same time all we can hope for is that there will be plenty of stock available at launch, it has a couple killer games to knock it out of the park, and that it won't be overpriced.
My interest in one unannounced device with no confirmed games is diminished by the existence of another unannounced device with no knowledge of what additional games it'll be able to play.My interest in a Switch 2 has already greatly diminished, and I'd be more likely to pick up a SteamDeck 2 (expected 2026) than a Switch 2 if the former is released prior to the latter, barring some tremendously appealing-to-me exclusive launch titles (Metroid + Fire Emblem) or surprisingly low pricing ($199-$250), both of which are unlikely.