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StarTopic Nintendo Switch 2 Speculation Thread |ST| The Future is Probably a Year From Now

How confident are you that one year from now (April 2nd, 2025) you will own a Switch 2 system?

  • Absolutely

    Votes: 192 57.8%

  • No because scalpers will kill my chances

    Votes: 39 11.7%

  • I hope so, but it is probably farther out

    Votes: 50 15.1%

  • Team second half 2025

    Votes: 24 7.2%

  • Josh, please stop it

    Votes: 27 8.1%
  • Total voters
    332
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qwerp said:
Animal crossing New Horizons really was a massive disappointment,.
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I mean it's a fine game on its own but in comparison to past games it's just disappointing. Still I had a lot of fun with it regardless, I just wish it had more content lol.
EvilChameleon said:
A massive disappointment that I still put hundreds of hours in. Funny how that works.
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I actually have over 1,000 myself lol. Hell I still play it every now and again.
SpaceGodzilla said:
The thread is slowing down too much, better stir the pot a little, I think there's a decent chance that instead of a new animal crossing they do a Mario kart 8 deluxe + booster course pass with new horizons
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If the switch 2 is backwards compatible I actually think that would be a great idea. Pocket Camp has to end at some point right? Plus I doubt they want all of the content in that game to just vanish or be locked to the app forever so cementing it within NH while we wait for the next game would be awesome, especially because PC has some amazing content.
 
Giancarlo said:
Nintendo will take time to migrate the 130+ milions userbase of Switch to it next console, Nintendo cant signal, launch the Switch sucessor and drop dead the suport on Switch, that will come to what Furukawa refer to a smooth transistion
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Which entails continuing to put games on Switch for the foreseeable future, but it doesn't entail the two having almost the same first-party library for the successor's initial years. Having very few exclusives is going to impede the migration, not help it. Because as much as retaining the Switch install base is a goal, so is actually moving them to the Switch 2.

Moving to the next thing because it's the next thing is only going to be so effective, games you can't play elsewhere need to be present as well.
 
Triistan said:
Splatoon, like Smash, Mario kart and animal crossing, should follow the GAAS route imho. I don’t understand N, everyone in the industry is trying to replicate the Fortnite success and Nintendo sleep on 3-4 major IP that could work really well for them and keep players happy with new content every year.
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The thing is, they wouldn't keep these communities happy bc they don't have sufficient staff/resources or the online infrastructure to satisfy gamers who like GaaS titles. They could maybe keep things going for 12-18 months, but then they'd face exact same complaints you hear from Apex and Destiny fans (with the added burden of a slower release cadence of new stuff, less communication about planned stuff, and connection issues).

Right now, Nintendo's strength is that they can use the same group of ppl for Animal Crossing and then something else a few years later. If they're only focused on endless AC updates, then that means the end of everything else from that group. They could hire more ppl to expand to work on battle pass stuff, but then we're no longer eating meals from the same cooks that attracted us to the restaurant in the first place.
 
Oh, this is a great idea for a thread! The hardware talk and general Switch 2 speculation talk did blend in a lot (I apologize for making that blending worse, lol).
 
McRibbie said:
Hisashi Nogami Syndrome is a very real thing (see also: Animal Crossing: Let's Go To The City and the Wii U)

Man just can't stop going "hey, this clearly works, let's do something very similar! This will not backfire in our faces at all!"
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To be fair, the Wii U had a multitude of other issues. In the case of Splatoon, the issue is that the games are too iterative between entities & I’m afraid that it’s gonna further bleed Western fans if they don’t do some more noticeable changes for Splatoon 4.
 
Rooster said:
Which entails continuing to put games on Switch for the foreseeable future, but it doesn't entail the two having almost the same first-party library for the successor's initial years. Having very few exclusives is going to impede the migration, not help it. Because as much as retaining the Switch install base is a goal, so is actually moving them to the Switch 2.

Moving to the next thing because it's the next thing is only going to be so effective, games you can't play elsewhere need to be present as well.
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PS5 sharing it majors releases with PS4 didnt impacted PS5 sales( more a blame for the pandemic-scalpers), why Switch sucessor cant be the same, know one will be angry if the next 3D Mario is also on Switch, many of you( myself included) whised Switch have a second 3D Mario on it, like Wii did, beside most of Switch sucessors games, problaby started development as Switch games(next 3D Mario)with the development of such games starting in 2019-2020
 
I kind of want to do a round-up of my thoughts on what software we could see within its first year or so on the market.

This is going to be such a weird launch year and launch in general regardless of when the system launches, simply due to the number of studios that should have a game ready by probably mid-2025.
EPD Tokyo - 3D Mario, 2D/3D DK next year (3D Mario to align with rumors and new console launch, DK to align with the theme park opening next year)
EPD 5 (Splatoon and Animal Crossing team) - Should have their next game done by 2025. They typically have a 2-3 year development time (which doesn't include DLC). We could very well see the next Animal Crossing in 2025. (I doubt they would get Splatoon 4 out so soon.)
Camelot - They typically have a game every 3 years. If we get Mario and Sonic by June 2024, they probably won't have another sports game. I've heard some rumors in 2020 about a Golden Sun project (mostly a remake of the first game), so maybe that'll end up happening. (Maybe it'll be more of a reboot or maybe just a new game since the original is coming to NSO.). I remember people just dismissing all of the Golden Sun talk about Mario Golf: Super Rush got revealed, much like how a lot of the SMRPG Remake talk got squished after Geno didn't get in Smash (although a lot of that talk was more low-key), I'm honestly expecting the same turn around with Golden Sun.
NDCube - Mario Party has a cycle of every 3 years. Superstars was in 2021. The next game should be next year.
TPC - Just generalizing all of the developers that work on Pokemon games, Black and White remakes probably happening next year is going to be super weird during a next-generation console launch. They either need to make it look super pretty, or they need to... just not have a game next year, I don't see it going well if it's super barebones.
Smash Team - I can definitely see us getting something revealed by the end of 2025, though I personally believe we could very well see something released next year due to a bunch of factors that I'm too tired to go into, nor is it the proper thread to lol.

While 2025 right now is shaping up to be a pretty normal year for a brand new console (Mario Kart 9/10/Whatever I see being Holiday 2025), 2024 is weird with possibly a big balance of a lot of niche projects and massive ones, possibly a remake being the big Holiday game, Mario Party possibly being so close to a 3D Mario, and maybe Smash coming back in a weird way, and I'm honestly excited.

Also, no new 3D Zelda until possibly the end of the console's lifespan is so weird to me. It's pretty much always been close to launch since the Gamecube (Wind Waker was revealed 7 months after its launch). I wonder how they'll fill in the void. Maybe they'll be done sooner than expected? I doubt ALL of the Zelda team was spending ALL of their time polishing TOTK. I'm sure they were already brainstorming and testing out ideas for the next game.
 
I guess this has already been covered extensively, but I was thinking of something about the Switch 2. . launch;

I really like the idea that Switch 1 was seen as a last-chance project and will have been a form of Nintendo Ultimate, starting with a reinvention of 3D Zelda and ending with a reinvention of 2D Mario, including perhaps the best 3D Mario and the best 2 Metroid to date, not forgetting Smash and Mario Kart, which somehow reached a climax here.

However, aside from the purely technical aspect that excites us all in the thread dedicated to hardware, I'm both excited and worried about the Switch 2's ability to continue to dazzle us. After the incredible success of the Switch 1, I don't know if this total audacity linked to a form of desperation, which made the brilliance of the Switch 1, will be as easy to express. I have total confidence in Koizumi, but I loved Odyssey so much that I really wonder how they'll manage to upset me with the next 3D Mario. And it will, in all likelihood, be the Switch 2's basic console seller.
 
robertman2 said:
There's no real good arguement against Smash/Splatoon/Animal Crossing/Mario Kart going GAAS. They should be getting new updates for the whole gen.
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Game quality would go down because the service game model is inherently predatory.

Less games would be made because devs would be tied down to continually updates forever (e.g. we never would have gotten unique Splatoon 2/3 entries if Splatoon 1 was a traditional service game)
 
Octavian said:
Game quality would go down because the service game model is inherently predatory.

Less games would be made because devs would be tied down to continually updates forever (e.g. we never would have gotten unique Splatoon 2/3 entries if Splatoon 1 was a traditional service game)
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from an artistic perspective, there's also something to be said for a finished work

not to mention game preservation, and the mental health of your players
 
Octavian said:
Game quality would go down because the service game model is inherently predatory.

Less games would be made because devs would be tied down to continually updates forever (e.g. we never would have gotten unique Splatoon 2/3 entries if Splatoon 1 was a traditional service game)
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splatoon 2 and 3 might as well be the same game as splatoon 1
 
I will legit just stop buying nintendo games if they go that route. At that point they show that they dont respect their userbase
 
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ngpdrew said:
You can bet your ass 2/3 wouldn't have legit 10/10 campaigns if Splatoon was a GaaS.
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I could see them selling the campaigns as separate DLC in a GaaS scenario. But even after a year, Splatoon 3 sadly isn’t beating the Splatoon 2.5 allegations.

Like I said, Splatoon 3 was most certainly the right call for Japan. But it wasn’t for the West.
 
Paraspikey said:
Also, no new 3D Zelda until possibly the end of the console's lifespan is so weird to me. It's pretty much always been close to launch since the Gamecube (Wind Waker was revealed 7 months after its launch). I wonder how they'll fill in the void. Maybe they'll be done sooner than expected? I doubt ALL of the Zelda team was spending ALL of their time polishing TOTK. I'm sure they were already brainstorming and testing out ideas for the next game.
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I think a surprise hit is gonna be a brand new 2D Zelda. It would be a new mainline zelda, while also filling the gap between big Open world Zelda’s, AND serving as a way to retain classic Zelda gameplay
 
Imitatio said:
Did you (ever) check whether the fan is actually okay? Might just be a faulty unit, tbh. (Or there's different fan types due to different vendors providing these.)

I notice my fan spins up when rebooting / booting for the first time as well, but it's still super quiet and a low pitch noise. (I also almost never shut the thing down completely; only ever reboot it every 3-4 weeks, otherwise it's energy saving mode only.)
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I never got it checked out by any one that knows anything about it but I did Google it(lol) and I did find out others OLED's do it
 
Switch firmware was update to version 17.0

Nintendo confirmed the NX on a 17th

The Switch released in a year ending in 17

Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
 
Neoxon said:
To be fair, the Wii U had a multitude of other issues. In the case of Splatoon, the issue is that the games are too iterative between entities & I’m afraid that it’s gonna further bleed Western fans if they don’t do some more noticeable changes for Splatoon 4.
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The online and/or netcode would be a good place to start. Some of the main reasons why I stopped playing 2 and didn't bother with 3 were the lag and the random disconnects.
 
Neoxon said:
I could see them selling the campaigns as separate DLC in a GaaS scenario. But even after a year, Splatoon 3 sadly isn’t beating the Splatoon 2.5 allegations.

Like I said, Splatoon 3 was most certainly the right call for Japan. But it wasn’t for the West.
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It is definitely Splatoon 2.5, and Splatoon 2 was Splatoon 1.5. So does that make Splatoon 3 Splatoon 2?
 
Neoxon said:
I could see them selling the campaigns as separate DLC in a GaaS scenario. But even after a year, Splatoon 3 sadly isn’t beating the Splatoon 2.5 allegations.

Like I said, Splatoon 3 was most certainly the right call for Japan. But it wasn’t for the West.
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I’m sure the stagnation of Splatoon’s audience outside of Japan is a disappointment for them (after all, they’ve been positioning it as part of their “Big 5”, if you will), but I don’t think they regret releasing it or consider it a mistake at all; the game being a breakout success in one of their largest markets should usually guarantee that. Regardless, I don’t think they would’ve been too hurt by already being 3m away from matching 2’s lifetime sales, on the same hardware, just six months after launch. We’ll have to see if it pops up on the million seller list next month to get a better grasp of how well it’s maintaining / growing it’s audience.
 
One thing I hope is dropped for Switch 2 is the barebones new game with trickle feed content thing they have going on. Sports game's and Sploon have the same issue. They need a little more meat or more interesting campaigns at launch to keep my attention. I wonder if this is also why all the later sports games and Sploon 3 stagnated. Maybe people know what to expect at launch now and have decided it isn't worth the investment?

I dropped all the sports games, Mario and Wii-make and Sploon 2 and 3 for launching in a pretty meh state. So this checks out to me. I simply don't have the time to come back to a game that has finally been supported enough to be worth my time (and money). They basically released the good campaign's as paid expansion pack's later on in Sploon's case. Heck I'd argue they are already GaaS lite with the trickle feed at least being free (except campaigns). I'm willing to bet that's also why the release campaigns aren't terribly exciting.
 
I've been wondering how comfortable a thicker, rounder Joy-Con would be for sideways play

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The horizontal Wii Remote always felt pretty good to me, so maybe a Joy-Con that's rounded off that way would feel better in both handheld and sideways

I have a pair of these, but I don't remember how they feel. Might have to dig them out and give it a shot

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I'm kinda hoping the 2 SKU rumor is true, and one Switch can be a ginormous TVablet, while the other SKU can be held in your hands to play videogames in multiple positions for long periods of time.
 
gamerguy said:
I'm kinda hoping the 2 SKU rumor is true, and one Switch can be a ginormous TVablet, while the other SKU can be held in your hands to play videogames in multiple positions for long periods of time.
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shitty compromise but I agree that's better than steam deck only
 
My views on third party support

Extremely likely:

Cyberpunk 2077
Any old Capcom and Square games that can be ported
All the sports games
Any lower budget Square games and Dragon Quest
Basically all Sega games other than maybe Yakuza
Anything Warner Bros can get even slightly running on the console
Nearly anything that can run at native 4k/60 on the PS5 and is from a publisher that can afford a competent port studio
Call of Duty

Fit the Switch’s audience really well but unclear how technically demanding they will be:

Monster Hunter Next
Assassin’s Creed Red (and future games)
Kingdom Hearts 4
Nier 3
Stuff in this vein

Already so technically demanding that a port may not happen:

FF16
Baldur’s Gate 3

Can easily be ported but might not due to publisher weirdness

Elden Ring
Red Dead 2
GTA5

Could be very demanding and doesn’t mesh as well with the Switch audience as prior mentioned games:

GTA6
Bioshock 4
Stuff in that vein
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
My views on third party support

Extremely likely:

Cyberpunk 2077
Any old Capcom and Square games that can be ported
All the sports games
Any lower budget Square games and Dragon Quest
Basically all Sega games other than maybe Yakuza
Anything Warner Bros can get even slightly running on the console
Nearly anything that can run at native 4k/60 on the PS5 and is from a publisher that can afford a competent port studio
Call of Duty

Fit the Switch’s audience really well but unclear how technically demanding they will be:

Monster Hunter Next
Assassin’s Creed Red (and future games)
Kingdom Hearts 4
Nier 3
Stuff in this vein

Already so technically demanding that a port may not happen:

FF16
Baldur’s Gate 3

Can easily be ported but might not due to publisher weirdness

Elden Ring
Red Dead 2
GTA5

Could be very demanding and doesn’t mesh as well with the Switch audience as prior mentioned games:

GTA6
Bioshock 4
Stuff in that vein
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I think BG3 will happen; Larian Studios happily ported Divinity: Original Sin II to the Switch, and I think they will do anything they can to get a piece of the Switch 2 pie.
 
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