Discussion Will Persona 3 Reload be announced for Switch at this Direct?

[SuperFakerBros]

Porting a game to Switch is a whole different ball game than porting to PS4 and Xbox One. Also, I'm not saying it's okay to skip Switch, but if I was Atlus and I was releasing a game around the time Nintendos new hardware should be in the aether, I wouldn't waste my time downporting to Switch when I can just put it in a more powerful successor.

At this rate, if games like this are missing Switch, I put more of the blame on Nintendo waiting too long to get a successor out the door than I do blame these third parties for not supporting Switch with 2024 releases.

While that's true, I don't quite buy it when it's not exactly a game that's even pushing the PS4/XB1, let alone the next gen consoles, and, at this point, most of the active audience would be on the newer systems as opposed to the older ones. It looks about on par with P5, a PS3 game, with what they've shown off so far. Never mind that they wouldn't need to downport it if they included it in development from the get go. It's not like we're talking about a small developer or indie team here, Atlus is owned by SEGA. Even Falcom seems to be able to do that much, plus there's Netherealm bothering to have a Switch version of MK1, a game that's surprisingly skipping PS4/XB1. I can totally get demanding games skipping the platform or next gen only games but something like this? No, I put it purely on Atlus

 

[Scrawnton]

While that's true, I don't quite buy it when it's not exactly a game that's even pushing the PS4/XB1, let alone the next gen consoles, and, at this point, most of the active audience would be on the newer systems as opposed to the older ones. It looks about on par with P5, a PS3 game, with what they've shown off so far. Never mind that they wouldn't need to downport it if they included it in development from the get go. It's not like we're talking about a small developer or indie team here, Atlus is owned by SEGA. Even Falcom seems to be able to do that much, plus there's Netherealm bothering to have a Switch version of MK1, a game that's surprisingly skipping PS4/XB1. I can totally get demanding games skipping the platform or next gen only games but something like this? No, I put it purely on Atlus

I do think the game can run on Switch with the work put in; however, it goes back to what I am saying, why put the work in if new hardware is right around the corner. Atlus and Sega may have done the math and decided to skip Switch and go for the Succ. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

 

[Chie]

Everyone boycott P5T on Switch!

But I actually think it looks cool and want to play it.

 

[SuperFakerBros]

I do think the game can run on Switch with the work put in; however, it goes back to what I am saying, why put the work in if new hardware is right around the corner. Atlus and Sega may have done the math and decided to skip Switch and go for the Succ. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Because the audience is already there whereas the Switch 2 will take to build up its audience? Like why not just skip the last gen systems as well when those will also take resources, money, and time to make as well and, at this point, nearly all of the active audience has moved on? It’s not like they take 0 resources or money to develop for

That’s assuming it’ll even hit the successor, which I wouldn’t be shocked if it doesn’t. If it does, at best, it’d be a very late port

 

[topsekret]

So it looks like the Switch text in the Youtube description was just a copy-paste error and the retailer listings were just from retailers assuming "surely Atlus wouldn't be stupid enough to leave out Switch".

Man, Atlus is so frustrating. I thought after the Persona ports last year they finally embraced multiplatform, but it seems like that was a fluke and they're doing the whole "everything but Switch" strategy with games like SH2, P3R, and Metaphor.

With really big budget Square Enix stuff like FFVII Remake, it makes sense why those games wouldn't come to Switch, even ignoring potential Sony deals.

But with Atlus there's just no rhyme or reason. P3R doesn't look any more advanced than P5R, which we know runs just fine on Switch. P3R is probably even simpler since 80% of the game is in generic boxy rooms in Tartarus.

At this point, my only hope is maybe Atlus is just holding out for Switch 2 in 2024.

 

[meatbag]

My theory is that Atlus got good deals from Sony and MS, whether it's hard cash, assistance with dev tools or marketing support. While Nintendo didn't offer them anything.

It's definitely not an issue with dev work. P5R and P5T are on Switch, they can target Switch if they want to.

 

[SirArthur]

So apparently the person who leak the persona stuff shared a thread (talking about the P5T dlc leak but then shifting to P3R)



If what is said is true, my previous point holds up lol.

They might need it more than Atlus, but how can a smaller company release a new game day-one while a Sega-own subsidiary cant get enough resources to do a switch version is hilarious to me.

 

[Akira]

Personally, I don't mind that P3RE or Metaphor won't be released on Switch when we're so close to the successor at this point.
P3RE is not the kind of game I need to play day 1 or on PC, so I'm fine waiting for a Switch 2 version, it could release with the femc DLC.
It's actually entirely possible Nintendo suggested them to release these games on the next platform instead, like they did with Ubisoft.

 

[Hauke_von_Arding]

Why are people so... dooming that Atlus HATES the Switch and NIntendo and is FORCED to release games on it? Wow.

Also did I miss something about SMT5 Complete not being on the Switch? Pretty sure the original leak never said anything about platforms. Also wouldn't make much sense with how big Nintendo is in the credits of the original game.

 

[thoughthaver]

I do think the game can run on Switch with the work put in; however, it goes back to what I am saying, why put the work in if new hardware is right around the corner. Atlus and Sega may have done the math and decided to skip Switch and go for the Succ. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

I can think of 125 million reasons and rising to put in the work. something that an indie dev like atlus and sega can afford.

 

[9-Volt]

I still stand by my prediction. First Soul Hackers 2, then P3R. And considering ports these days take serious amount of time, I'm not sure when we'll see SH2 on Switch. But it'll be a "definitive edition" enough to give a game much needed "second chance".

 

[Ozzie]

So apparently the person who leak the persona stuff shared a thread (talking about the P5T dlc leak but then shifting to P3R)



If what is said is true, my previous point holds up lol.

Like I said, Switch 2 won't change anything, if Nintendo ain't paying Sega/Atlus, they will not be getting ports or any day 1 new games from them.

Maybe ports 5 years later.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

Like I said, Switch 2 won't change anything, if Nintendo ain't paying Sega/Atlus, they will not be getting ports or any day 1 new games from them.

Maybe ports 5 years later.

Don't be silly. Of course they're getting some games day 1. They're not getting everything, sure, but neither is any other platform.

Like, do you think they reached out to pay for persona 5 tactica, but then thought 'that new rerelease of mainline persona though? Lol, nah, that ain't worth it'

 

[Mbolibombo]

Atlus has it in their blood. Weird and bad business decisions.

I still stand by my prediction. First Soul Hackers 2, then P3R. And considering ports these days take serious amount of time, I'm not sure when we'll see SH2 on Switch. But it'll be a "definitive edition" enough to give a game much needed "second chance".

I doubt any publisher will pony up for a "definite edition" to happen so it's all on Atlus, and considering how hard it bombed, I dont think Atlus is willing to take that risk,

 

[Ozzie]

Don't be silly. Of course they're getting some games day 1. They're not getting everything, sure, but neither is any other platform.

Like, do you think they reached out to pay for persona 5 tactica, but then thought 'that new rerelease of mainline persona though? Lol, nah, that ain't worth it'

Spin offs seems to be fine, look how we got P5 Strikers and Tactica but mainline major games developed internally at Atlus seems to be a no go, example: Soul Hackers 2, P3R and Metaphor.

SMTV is the only exception since Nintendo paid for it.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

Spin offs seems to be fine, look how we got P5 Strikers and Tactica but mainline major games developed internally at Atlus seems to be a no go, example: Soul Hackers 2, P3R and Metaphor.

SMTV is the only exception since Nintendo paid for it.

Yes, which is why Persona 5 royal, persona 4 golden, persona 3 portable, all famous spin offs, didn't get included in their recent releases. Oh, hang on. Add the Shin megami tensei 3 remakester to that list as well

There's also zero evidence whatsoever to suggest Nintendo paid for SMTV, you just made that up.

 

[Luneth]

I mean, they just announced the damn Arkham Knight native for switch. There's no technical excuses, they don't launch the game on switch because they don't want to.

I still think the game will launch on a Nintendo console in the future for the double dip money. I was going to buy it for PS5 but that would send a wrong message, so I have decided they aren't seeing my money.

 

[Ozzie]

Yes, which is why Persona 5 royal, persona 4 golden, persona 3 portable, all famous spin offs, didn't get included in their recent releases. Oh, hang on. Add the Shin megami tensei 3 remakester to that list as well

There's also zero evidence whatsoever to suggest Nintendo paid for SMTV, you just made that up.

I'm pretty sure Nintendo helped out with localisation so at the very least, they were involved with the game.

Furthermore, P3-5 was done by Sega not Atlus. I highly doubt Atlus would have wanted to port the games to Switch.

As for SMT3, I agree with you on that. Judging from Atlus output, Switch should except mainly remasters. When's the last time Switch got a day 1 brand new game from Atlus? SMTV and once again, Nintendo was heavily involved.

 

[Scrawnton]

I can think of 125 million reasons and rising to put in the work. something that an indie dev like atlus and sega can afford.

Well there has to be some sort of reason it's not on Switch. It seems like a no brainer, but after they put the work on to port 3P, 4, and 5 to Switch, I doubt they'd flat out ignore Switch with P3R for no reason.

It's obvious at this point P3R isn't coming to Switch, so we can guess it's because they are waiting for Switch 2 or because they just flat out don't care.

 

[meatbag]

Well there has to be some sort of reason it's not on Switch

My guess:

My theory is that Atlus got good deals from Sony and MS, whether it's hard cash, assistance with dev tools or marketing support. While Nintendo didn't offer them anything.

It's definitely not an issue with dev work. P5R and P5T are on Switch, they can target Switch if they want to.

My other guess: Atlus simply thinks of Playstation as Persona's primary platform. Everything else comes after that.

 

[Seven]

Yes, which is why Persona 5 royal, persona 4 golden, persona 3 portable, all famous spin offs, didn't get included in their recent releases. Oh, hang on. Add the Shin megami tensei 3 remakester to that list as well

There's also zero evidence whatsoever to suggest Nintendo paid for SMTV, you just made that up.

Don't forget the Etrian Odyssey Collection that just came out, I'm sure Nintendo paid Atlus the big bucks to have that as a console exclusive lol.

All this doom and gloom is eye-rolling and difficult to take serious when most of it boils down to random speculation and accusations of bias.

 

[Weiss]

The real problem is that I can't futilely blame the lack of a Switch version for any poor sales, as I do when coping over Soul Hackers 2.