I mean after BDSP ILCA helped with Pokémon Sleep and even Scarlet & VioletI guess that puts and end to the rumors that Game Freak were angry with ILCA about the D/P/P remakes?
There's no evidence yet that this is for main series development. Don't let the assumptions of the clout goblins like Centro Repost twist things. All we know is that it exists as a company and is in ILCA's buildingThey could be doing remakes...but also, maybe not.
What is for sure: GF is aware that it has become to much for them and creature, so this is a support studio that can take up ancillary development like others have mentioned.
Good call. With the cadence and scope of the franchise I could see even a 4th studio involved as a good decision.
ILCA was already doing that. This would just be a continuationHope this studio works on helping Gen 10's development.
We don't know that, let's not put assumptions as factILCA was already doing that. This would just be a continuation
Oh I did not mean main series, stuff like home for me is a core product that is kind of a technical crutch for the main series.I mean after BDSP ILCA helped with Pokémon Sleep and even Scarlet & Violet
There's no evidence yet that this is for main series development. Don't let the assumptions of the clout goblins like Centro Repost twist things. All we know is that it exists as a company and is in ILCA's building
Maybe this is a similar situation? ILCA and Pokemon company forming a new studio together?It had since then developed a close relationship with publisher Bandai Namco Entertainment, working on games such as The Idolmaster: Starlit Season,[4] One Piece Odyssey and Sand Land.[5] It also formed a new studio named Bandai Namco Aces with the publisher in 2022 to work on the next Ace Combat game. Bandai Namco will own 51% of the new studio, while ILCA will own the remaining 49%.[6]
that would make sense. ilca already has staff who work on pokemon games so it makes sense to have a joint venture.Maybe this is a similar situation? ILCA and Pokemon company forming a new studio together?
Interesting. I wonder if it this means they are partnering with ILCA (and expanding with a TPC-owned development team) for the long haul to develop their remakes, so that Gamefreak can focus fully on the generational games and the Legends sub series.
ILCA also help with mainline games, of course, so that might also be ramped up with this.
The idea of a joint venture is interesting to secure a collaboration. Nintendo has already done that by establishing Flagship with Capcom in the past, which had worked on Kirby and Zelda games. Bandai Namco and ILCA also formed a joint venture.that would make sense. ilca already has staff who work on pokemon games so it makes sense to have a joint venture.
probably a bunch of legalese and regional legalese at that. digging into the weeds of corporate contracts is probably its own path to hellThe idea of a joint venture is interesting to secure a collaboration. Nintendo has already done that by establishing Flagship with Capcom in the past, which had worked on Kirby and Zelda games. Bandai Namco and ILCA also formed a joint venture.
However, one can have close collaboration without joint venture. For example, Nintendo had for years an exclusive contract with NLG without sharing a capital link. Bandai Namco’s famous studio 2/S, which works closely with Nintendo, also does not seems to be co-owned.
I wonder, in concrete working relationships, what is the difference between a joint venture and a contractual partnership? One might think that a shared company is a stronger link but is that necessarily true? I mean, if one of the partners no longer agrees, the company can be dissolved as Flagship or the shares are bought back by the other partner as with ND Cube. So the only thing we can say with certainty for now is that TPC is ILCA will continue to collaborate together.
I feel like the first time we're going to see the name in any official capacity is when they announce a game. We knew nothing about ILCA's involvement with BDSP before the games were revealedCan't see how this is anything but good news.
Would be nice to actually have TPC put out some sort of statement about what exactly Pokémon Works will be doing though. Worst come to worst we'll see them credited somewhere and we'll work it out ourselves.
It's not Unover yet.I feel like the first time we're going to see the name in any official capacity is when they announce a game. We knew nothing about ILCA's involvement with BDSP before the games were revealed
If they're hiring more staff, we'll see them formally announce themselves long before their game is revealed, as with Bandai Namco AcesI feel like the first time we're going to see the name in any official capacity is when they announce a game. We knew nothing about ILCA's involvement with BDSP before the games were revealed
Heck I’m still waiting for Pokémon Pinball 3Hopefully they will find some time to develop pokemon snap 3 too
Pretty sure that Khu was the one that started the “rumour” of Game Freak/TPC breaking connections with ILCA, so I don’t even think they have solid sources anymore. Wonder how they’ll try and spin this.something interesting is that before the presents khu mentioned that the unova game was still "converting" the developer which makes more sense now with this information.
i think the point might be that pokemon works will largely if not completely replace ilca for pokemon related outsourcing while ilca itself works on other franchises.Pretty sure that Khu was the one that started the “rumour” of Game Freak/TPC breaking connections with ILCA, so I don’t even think they have solid sources anymore. Wonder how they’ll try and spin this.
If anything, they were probably impressed that ILCA got something working out with such a short turnaround. Hopefully the next project, whatever it is, has a much more stable development.
Isn't Pokemon Works ILCA?i think the point might be that pokemon works will largely if not completely replace ilca for pokemon related outsourcing while ilca itself works on other franchises.
If the company has an actual site and everything then yeah, we're probably in for a formal acknowledgment. Very interesting stuff if this ends up being Switch/Mainline related.
This domain was registered a couple of weeks ago. I think there's a good chance we see a formal announcement within the not-too-distant future.
Pure speculation on my part, but I'm wondering more and more if their next project isn't Let's Go Johto. There were several references to gen 2 in the announcements at the last Pokemon Presents. If Unova isn't coming soon, it also makes sense to focus the next Pokémon Legends on something else. I hope this means that a future Unova remake will benefit from the better organization being put in place and the greater development time that goes with it.If anything, they were probably impressed that ILCA got something working out with such a short turnaround. Hopefully the next project, whatever it is, has a much more stable development.
yes and no, technically it'll be some kind of joint studio half owned by ilca and I imagine will operate at least a little differently. khu has had a sort of a weird back and forth between ilca coming back or being gone for good and tpc building a seperate studio out of ilca might be one way of explaining those comments.Isn't Pokemon Works ILCA?
Director - Takuya Iwasaki (ILCA)
Director - Takanori Sowa (TPC)
Director - Masao Iuchi (TPC?)
Director - Katsuhisa Iijima (???)
Director - Satoshi Takamori (ILCA)
It doesn't make sense at all to me. If you're not satisfied with your collaboration with a partner, you change partners, you don't set up a joint venture with them. The idea that strengthening collaboration with ILCA would at the same time be tantamount to parting ways with it strikes me as rather shaky. What would that mean? "We like you but not your employees"? I don't see the logic, personally.yes and no, technically it'll be some kind of joint studio half owned by ilca and I imagine will operate at least a little differently. khu has had a sort of a weird back and forth between ilca coming back or being gone for good and tpc building a seperate studio out of ilca might be one way of explaining those comments.
Also, why would they drop ILCA after their relatively low-budget game sold 14 million units lolKhu's TPC totally hates ILCA now guys! was complete drivel. A sad attempt at hyping up "fans" with some made-up, twisted own.
As boodream said you don't strengthen your relationship with a business partner you're dissatisfied with to the point of building a joint venture. That idea is clearly nonsense. Not that it made any sense even before this news when ILCA was credited with supporting for projects that happened well after BDSP.
i think its possible tpc both likes ilca as a partner for home, sleep and sv but was disappointed with the handling of bdsp.It doesn't make sense at all to me. If you're not satisfied with your collaboration with a partner, you change partners, you don't set up a joint venture with them. The idea that strengthening collaboration with ILCA would at the same time be tantamount to parting ways with it strikes me as rather shaky. What would that mean? "We like you but not your employees"? I don't see the logic, personally.
On the other hand, if TPC wants to set up this structure to correct problems and stabilize development, it's likely, but as N75 said, the problems to be corrected are related to deadlines and organization, not to developers.
Well that's for TPC to fixi think its possible tpc both likes ilca as a partner for home, sleep and sv but was disappointed with the handling of bdsp.
Exactly. If they're unhappy with the schedule they've set themselves, they have to improve it, and I think that's what outsourcing to ILCA was intended to contribute to in the first place.Well that's for TPC to fix
I know what you mean. But in that case, I wonder why they would not simply continue with the collaborations they like and discontinue the ones they don't like? Why bother founding a joint venture? What a joint venture says about the newly created entity is that TPC is satisfied enough to want to institutionalize this external collaboration, in my opinion.i think its possible tpc both likes ilca as a partner for home, sleep and sv but was disappointed with the handling of bdsp.
Agreed. The next remake will probably be a surprising leap in qualityExactly. If they're unhappy with the schedule they've set themselves, they have to improve it, and I think that's what outsourcing to ILCA was intended to contribute to in the first place.
I know what you mean. But in that case, I wonder why they would not simply continue with the collaborations they like and discontinue the ones they don't like? Why bother founding a joint venture? What a joint venture says about the newly created entity is that TPC is satisfied enough to want to institutionalize this external collaboration, in my opinion.
You don't co-found a studio with ILCA and then go looking for DeNa or Namco to make the next remake, that would seem surprising to me. And if you want to continue with ILCA, but improve the way the partnership is organized, you can do so just as you would with any subcontractor, without a joint venture.
I think you're right when you talk about BDSP's project management, but I'll say it again, it's a planning problem, not one of ILCA's so called incompetence, as I think we've read far too much about.
I think Game Freak was originally going to do BDSP, then out of BDSP eventually came Arceus, and TPC had the good sense to understand that it was necessary to rely on outsourcing for the overall improvement of the franchise. This resulted in an insane schedule for BDSP, because it was an unforeseen event at the outset. But the next remake will be much less "improvised" in my opinion.
the upcoming ace combat started development with bandai namco and ilca then later reorganized as bandai namco aces. very plausible that its the case for an upcoming pokemon gameI personally wouldn't be surprised if ILCA was working on the next remake and they and TPC decided to split the remake team off of ILCA itself to let ILCS do its own thing.
Also wouldn't be surprised if the next remakes are announced alongside what Pokemon Works does.