StarTopic Nintendo Switch 2 Speculation Thread |ST| Night of the Final Day. ~12 hours remain

[indospot]

It actually doesn't follow the remake naming scheme they have followed so far which has been adjective + original name of the game. Fire Red/ Leaf Green, Heart Gold/ Soul Silver, Omega Ruby/ Alpha Sapphire, Brilliant Diamond/ Shining Pearl. They could always change things up though.

Blazing White and Sparking Black, you heard it here first. Or the other way around idk

 

[Polmo]

That doesn't change the fact that if the start of mass production is slated for september that is when the reveal will happen, the start of mass production was decided long ago. If Nintendo starts mass production this years its likely to start before november, which makes november less likely.

We don't know when the mass production si slated

 

[Erika]

WE’RE SO BACK

No.

If it is actually moved up instead of originally planned in August, it’s a bad news for team September.

if the double-Direct is planned in August, it is much more likely Nintendo has something more important (a.k.a Switch 2 reveal) in September.

Now Brazil confirms it is actually moved to August from September. It’s more likely caused by something not in Nintendo’s control, for example, PS5 Pro reveal.

 

[googaly10]

We don't know when the mass production si slated

Well if we assume the Switch 2 is slated for release in April at earliest, and Nintendo wants to get as many Switch 2s as possible out at launch to avoid supply issues with the original Switch, that would imply having mass production start earlier than the Switch did. Switch started mass production in October, so starting mass production a month earlier this time can give a great boost.

 

[Danny]

No.

If it is actually moved up instead of originally planned in August, it’s a bad news for team September.

if the double-Direct is planned in August, it is much more likely Nintendo has something more important (a.k.a Switch 2 reveal) in September.

Now Brazil confirms it is actually moved to August from September. It’s more likely caused by something not in Nintendo’s control, for example, PS5 Pro reveal.

The thing is PS5 pro reveal seems slated for early september, while the direct would probably have been late september. So seems unlikely that a PS5 pro reveal would take all attention from a Nintendo direct for the entire month.

 

[BDGAME]

So, what games do you think will be showing in the Reveal Trailer?

The first Switch was announced with:

• Zelda BotW ( crossgen)
• Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe port)
• NBA 2K18 (current gen port to show Switch's power)
• Mario Odyssey (new exclusive AAA game)
• Skyrim (loved game for the first time on Nintendo)
• Splatoon 2 (sequel to a important franchise)

There are not many games on that trailer, but enough to pass the message and show how Switch worked. I believe that other reason is the lack of thirds that want to port games after the failure of Wii U.

Now they probably will have lot of games to show, but what games will help to sell the product ?

 

[googaly10]

Now Brazil confirms it is actually moved to August from September. It’s more likely caused by something not in Nintendo’s control, for example, PS5 Pro reveal.

The thing about that is, if they were this concerned about a PS5 Pro announcement in early September, why would they move the two directs to before that supposed announcement? Wouldn’t that allow the two to get overshadowed even more than if they were to wait until after the PS5 Pro to stream them?

 

[EvilChameleon]

I think all discussion about the PS5 Pro will be focused on how unnecessary it is, and how expensive it is, so nothing really would take away from a Nintendo announcement.

 

[gonanzir]

I think mario party will also be available for 3ds in October 2016, which won't affect the switch announcement.
The announcement of the Switch 2 won't impact game sales or events. The only ones affected will be consumers who still haven't bought a Switch, and that will only reflect in the Switch's sales numbers.

 

[Danny]

So, what games do you think will be showing in the Reveal Trailer?

The first Switch was announced with:

• Zelda BotW ( crossgen)
• Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe port)
• NBA 2K18 (current gen port to show Switch's power)
• Mario Odyssey (new exclusive AAA game)
• Skyrim (loved game for the first time on Nintendo)
• Splatoon 2 (sequel to a important franchise)

There are not many games on that trailer, but enough to pass the message and show how Switch worked. I believe that other reason is the lack of thirds that want to port games after the failure of Wii U.

Now they probably will have lot of games to show, but what games will help to sell the product ?

I could potentially also see games like Metroid Prime 4 and Legends Z-A show up, confirmed as crossgen maybe? It seems likely to be the case because both games seems to be slated to come out after the release of Switch 2, so would make sense for them to be crossgen releases in that case. Nintendo EPD may even help gamefreak make a Switch 2 SKU of Z-A because having a pokemon game is always a big plus when you want to create more hype.

 

[ILikeFeet]

You’re saying you’re not expecting September or you’re not expecting us to miss September?

I'm not expecting a September reveal

 

[Brazil]

Ok let me ask this. Do you think any of these presentations were moved up because of a PS5 Pro being announced in September in your opinion?

I really don’t think Nintendo gives a shit.

 

[Mpl90]

The only thing I'll say, and not as a hint, but as someone who's somewhat aware of how these things work internally - pushing things into August doesn't mean we'll get a reveal in September. These presentations take time, coordination with partners, manpower - they could've simply wanted to get the Switch 1 stuff out of the way so their teams could focus all of their efforts on the big one.


Feeling better! Thank you for asking.

It's pretty clear that presentations such as Nintendo Directs and Indie World require a lot of preparation and communication with partners. However, I have to ask: is it truly that implausible to think that the preparation and coordination behind the scenes for this presentations is so intense to prevent any talk with partners about the new system? By that, I mean: wouldn't have been also possible to see both presentations hosted in September (the typical slot for the pre-TGS Direct at least) with the behind-the-scenes talks with partners for the new system happening anyway?

After all, both presentations were going to be in their final phase of preparation either way given the time window for the September presentation (one-two weeks ahead of TGS), with resources being freed by that task in the process; also, I wouldn't even be surprised if talk with major partners have been ongoing for a while anyway...especially if they're about something like the unveil trailer rather than a Direct, with a much smaller number of games that can be featured by default.

 

[Danny]

Even when Nintendo revealed the Switch in october 2016, they had no fear at all over the upcoming PS4 pro in november 2016, and the PS4 pro had evidently no impact on Switch at all. So judging by that history, PS5 pro has no impact on Nintendo's strategy regarding Switch 2.

 

[Leviraps]

No.

If it is actually moved up instead of originally planned in August, it’s a bad news for team September.

if the double-Direct is planned in August, it is much more likely Nintendo has something more important (a.k.a Switch 2 reveal) in September.

Now Brazil confirms it is actually moved to August from September. It’s more likely caused by something not in Nintendo’s control, for example, PS5 Pro reveal.

So Nintendo moved up the annual September Direct to August (big deal actually) and placed it back to back with Indie World on the same day, in unprecedented fashion, like this:

All to avoid conflict with a mid-generation refresh of a console that doesn’t need it? LMAO

 

[Danny]

So Nintendo moved up the annual Direct to September and jam packed them both together in an unprecedented way like this:

All to avoid conflict with a mid-generation refresh of a console that doesn’t need it? LMAO

Sounds like Sony fanboy wet dreams ''Nintendo is TERRIFIED of PS5 pro! Switch 2 DESTROYED''.

 

[Dragoncaine]

So, what games do you think will be showing in the Reveal Trailer?

The first Switch was announced with:

• Zelda BotW ( crossgen)
• Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe port)
• NBA 2K18 (current gen port to show Switch's power)
• Mario Odyssey (new exclusive AAA game)
• Skyrim (loved game for the first time on Nintendo)
• Splatoon 2 (sequel to a important franchise)

There are not many games on that trailer, but enough to pass the message and show how Switch worked. I believe that other reason is the lack of thirds that want to port games after the failure of Wii U.

Now they probably will have lot of games to show, but what games will help to sell the product ?

Nintendo doesn't have to sell the concept behind the Switch this time, so:

• 3D Mario
• BOTW
• Prime 4
• New Mario Kart
• Legends Z/A

- RDR 2/GTA 6

Maybe something like that?

 

[Brazil]

It's pretty clear that presentations such as Nintendo Directs and Indie World require a lot of preparation and communication with partners. However, I have to ask: is it truly that implausible to think that the preparation and coordination behind the scenes for this presentations is so intense to prevent any talk with partners about the new system? By that, I mean: wouldn't have been also possible to see both presentations hosted in September (the typical slot for the pre-TGS Direct at least) with the behind-the-scenes talks with partners for the new system happening anyway?

After all, both presentations were going to be in their final phase of preparation either way, given the time window for the September presentation (one-two weeks ahead of TGS) and I wouldn't even be surprised if talk with major partners have been ongoing for a while anyway...especially if they're about something like the unveil trailer rather than a Direct, with a much smaller number of games that can be featured by default.

All I meant by that post is that people should probably keep an open mind. It might be in September, but it might not.

If the month ends without a reveal, it doesn’t mean we’re all doomed.

 

[jirou]

and it's a DK game

that one's personal lmao

 

[carbvan]

No.

If it is actually moved up instead of originally planned in August, it’s a bad news for team September.

if the double-Direct is planned in August, it is much more likely Nintendo has something more important (a.k.a Switch 2 reveal) in September.

Now Brazil confirms it is actually moved to August from September. It’s more likely caused by something not in Nintendo’s control, for example, PS5 Pro reveal.

Why would Nintendo care to change the date of one of a non-general Direct, one which many feel is one of the weakest presentations they've ever done, because Sony has a mid gen refresh coming out? Legitimately, what is the line of thought here? How does that make more sense than Nintendo doing an unprecedented direct-indie world combo to open their own September slate?

 

[Steve]

So Nintendo moved up the annual September Direct to August (big deal actually) and placed it back to back with Indie World on the same day, in unprecedented fashion, like this:

All to avoid conflict with a mid-generation refresh of a console that doesn’t need it? LMAO

hey... that mid gen refresh will let developers brute force 60fps!!

But i honestly think that Nintendo don't care about the PS5 Pro, same goes for Sony, since both products are meant for different people.

 

[Meelow]

All I meant by that post is that people should probably keep an open mind. It might be in September, but it might not.

If the month ends without a reveal, it doesn’t mean we’re all doomed.

You're wrong Brazil, it does mean we are doomed.

...Well, this forum's sanity is doomed.

 

[indospot]

If this thing gets revealed in September, I'm requesting a 24-four self-ban on myself from the announcement tweet.

 

[korok]

Nintendo and Sony have had showcases in the same day, but sure, Nintendo has moved their entire planning to August in order to not coincide in the same month.

 

[korok]

I'm pretty sure that Nintendo considered every marketing push, especially the more important one like the final big update, when they chosen the final date of release

You have to explain to me very slowly how an in-game event in a 2 year old game for players that already own it dictates the marketinf of a new console. Like genuinely, how.

 

[AndresRestart]

I think PS5 Pro is going to be pretty niche. At least at first while the price is so high. I really don't think that many people are clamoring for more power in their PS5 that has yet to have been fully maximized. I think there is an audience of course, but not something so substantial Nintendo should be making unprecedented moves with their Direct presentation schedule.

 

[Koren Lesthe]

People out there will badmouth me for daring to suggest that Nintendo would "break the patterns" to have presentations in August, then turn around a couple of days later and entertain a "First Party Direct" with one game

Are you telling me that Nintendo bought Ratailaika Games and Factor 5 and are preparing a full 1st Party Direct to showcase the next Turrican ?!

 

[SammyJ9]

It's not that the successor has to be revealed in September, or that it's a disaster if it isn't. It can totally be October, or even January. It just feels like something is happening in September at this point and I'm really interested to see what it is and how the month plays out. It'll be fun no matter what.

 

[Melpomene]

All I'm saying is that if Nintendo can fairly suddenly decide a console (or its games, more accurately) need more time in the oven and delay its release, they can also fairly suddenly decide that actually, they want to reveal it a little earlier than previously planned, or that they actually don't want anything else getting in its way during its reveal timeframe and push a few things up for that purpose.

 

[Hocot8]

All I meant by that post is that people should probably keep an open mind. It might be in September, but it might not.

If the month ends without a reveal, it doesn’t mean we’re all doomed.

we're always doomed.

 

[Polmo]

You have to explain to me very slowly how an in-game event in a 2 year old game for players that already own it dictates the marketinf of a new console. Like genuinely, how.

I'm not saying that the Grand festival is the reason why Nintendo won't announce Switch 2 in September.
I'm just saying that when they developed splatoon 3 and deciding both its launch and content update schedule, they surely thought about to fit all of that before Switch 2 launch.

The Grand Festival is something big, especially for Japan, and is between what might be a month staked with news for upcoming Switch games giving preview, releases and likely new trailer for the final games of the year. Is a piece of the puzzle.

 

[Mr Doggo]

At the time when GameFreak thought it was a genius idea to have 3 big releases within the span of a year (BDSP, Legend Arceus and ScaVi). Truly a moon-brain move if I've ever seen one. It's most likely not going to go that way for a second time after the mixed reception of two of those three titles.

With the way things go with GF, they will find a way to make DLSS lower the resolution of the game

 

[Uncle Squingis]

I guess if Nintendo can move a partner direct forward a month to make room for Switch 2, they can just as easily move the reveal back to its original date.

 

[Melpomene]

I'm just saying that when they developed splatoon 3 and deciding both its launch and content update schedule, they surely thought about to fit all of that before Switch 2 launch.

However, the Switch 2's launch schedule seems to have changed quite a lot from whatever their original intent for its release timeline was. I feel like all bets are kind of off, in that regard.

 

[Dark Cloud]

So I see the Direct/Indie was in September and the Switch 2 reveal was in October.

But for whatever reason Nintendo decided to move up the Switch 2 reveal to September. Thus, they needed to move Direct/Indie to August.

 

[Giancarlo]

I think all discussion about the PS5 Pro will be focused on how unnecessary it is, and how expensive it is, so nothing really would take away from a Nintendo announcement.

third parties dont want to see their games, compared to PS5 Pro, they want everyone to associate it games to next gen hardware, such as PS5 e Xbox series X/S

 

[gnetc]

No.

If it is actually moved up instead of originally planned in August, it’s a bad news for team September.

if the double-Direct is planned in August, it is much more likely Nintendo has something more important (a.k.a Switch 2 reveal) in September.

Now Brazil confirms it is actually moved to August from September. It’s more likely caused by something not in Nintendo’s control, for example, PS5 Pro reveal.

The PS5 Pro reveal is such a meme at this point, this isn’t a brand new generation like the Switch 2. Once the Switch 2 gets revealed the PS5 Pro will just get buried in the news cycle.

 

[nenned]

I'm thinking October is the reveal month. Nintendo is not going to announce before the PS5 Pro announcement so as to not have their thunder stolen. And I don't think they will reveal so soon after Sony's announcement that they have to share the spotlight.

As for reveal games in the "trailer," I'm thinking none. The system will be announced via a press release showing what the system looks like and confirming it is a hybrid console and will tell us to look forward to a future presentation (i.e. the "January 2017" presentation) for more info on games and new system features. Nintendo had to show new games during the reveal to get people excited for the concept of the hybrid system, especially after the failure of the Wii U. This isn't needed now. Given how secretive Nintendo is, they will wait until that last minute to show off Switch 2 games.

 

[Shish]

Nintendo scared of the presentation of PlayStation 5 Pro? In 2000 never.
Nintendo will not be scared by a more powerful PlayStation 5.

Then again, we're talking about a midgen console, not a nextgen console.

 

[Triistan]

Are we really debating whether the announcement of a mid-gen refresh aimed at a minority of the market could impact the reveal of the successor to the console that’s breaking all records?

Just a year ago, Nintendo proved that a 2D Mario released on the same day as Spider-Man 2 achieved more sales and a higher Metacritic score. Caution is understandable, but Nintendo has been leading the market for almost eight years now; it’s time to accept it.

 

[neoplanet]

All I meant by that post is that people should probably keep an open mind. It might be in September, but it might not.

If the month ends without a reveal, it doesn’t mean we’re all doomed.

i mean , octuber still a good date to reveal it
and if you join a future console speculation thread , you should be prepared that your mental health will not end ok

 

[Dark Cloud]

Like Brazil said Nintendo doesn’t give a shit about a mid gen game. They’ve have presentations the same week and same day as Sony.

PS5 Pro will be super pricey for a select group of people. This is no competition for Nintendo’s next gen system. And Nintendo is most likely just announcing it. They won’t start full marketing until next year.

 

[Meelow]

I do find it interesting that a lot of people are saying, "Well, Nintendo wants to avoid the PS5 Pro because it can overshadow the Switch 2", yet nobody is saying that the Switch 2 would overshadow the PS5 Pro.

It would be if it were a PS6 vs Switch 2 announcement, then sure, they both wouldn't want to announce around the same time, but like Brazil said, Nintendo could care less about the PS5 Pro.

 

[neoplanet]

I do find it interesting that a lot of people are saying, "Well, Nintendo wants to avoid the PS5 Pro because it can overshadow the Switch 2", yet nobody is saying that the Switch 2 would overshadow the PS5 Pro.

It would be if it were a PS6 vs Switch 2 announcement, then sure, they both wouldn't want to announce around the same time, but like Brazil said, Nintendo could care less about the PS5 Pro.

so , the funny thing can happen , switch 2 announced on the same day as ps5 pro

 

[SpaceGodzilla]

i'm just waiting to hear what nate has heard at Gamescom

 

[Hermii]

I do find it interesting that a lot of people are saying, "Well, Nintendo wants to avoid the PS5 Pro because it can overshadow the Switch 2", yet nobody is saying that the Switch 2 would overshadow the PS5 Pro.

It would be if it were a PS6 vs Switch 2 announcement, then sure, they both wouldn't want to announce around the same time, but like Brazil said, Nintendo could care less about the PS5 Pro.

Yep. SONY would panic a lot more than Nintendo if the reveal was the same day.

 

[Meelow]

Yep. SONY would panic a lot more than Nintendo if the reveal was the same day.

It gives me "Red Dead Redemption II trailer is going to overshadow the Switch trailer" vibes.

Do you all remember that? lol.

 

[Cerlinho]

Less than 24 hours in September and the discussion here is already getting interesting...

#teamseptember

 

[Giancarlo]

everyone seen to forget, Playstation is much stronger brand compared to Nintendo, also PS5 Pro will be stronger, the moment PS5 Pro launch most of third-parties will focus on PS5/PS5 Pro, Switch sucessor will be dead on arrival

 

[indospot]

everyone seen to forget, Playstation is much stronger brand compared to Nintendo, also PS5 Pro will be stronger, the moment PS5 Pro launch most of third-parties will focus on PS5/PS5 Pro, Switch sucessor will be dead on arrival

Much stronger by what standard? Nintendo has often been leading in unit sales during the Switch era. Also, this absolutely won't happen because games will still need to be made for the base PS5, Xbox Series S, and in some cases, even PS4.