What Nintendo franchise do you think will be the next to go dormant?

Red Monster

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I heard this question on the most recent episode of the This Nintendo Life podcast today. People often say “which dormant franchise would you want to see get a new game” and then you’d see stuff like, F Zero! Kid Icarus! Eternal Darkness!

What about the opposite? Which current Nintendo franchise do you think is most likely to be the next F Zero or Pilotwings? Are there any that you think will soon go dormant? Are there any that you’d like to see go dormant?
 

Gartooth

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How do ports factor into this? If a series sticks around but only as ports is it dormant or active?
 

Mekanos

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It does kind of feel like Star Fox is running out of chances, but it always ends up coming back somehow.
It’s very much Miyamoto’s prodigal son. Other franchises have been killed for less but they keep trying to make that damn fox a Nintendo star.
 

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It’s very much Miyamoto’s prodigal son. Other franchises have been killed for less but they keep trying to make that damn fox a Nintendo star.
And they keep fucking it up by trying to do weird gimmicks with it or just retread Star Fox 1 again. That franchise has been handled like garbage.
 

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Edit: Bleh, its late.

Gonna go with Warioware or Mario Sports (Tennis/Golf)
 
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It’s very much Miyamoto’s prodigal son. Other franchises have been killed for less but they keep trying to make that damn fox a Nintendo star.
Isn't a prodigy like actually good at what it does? SF seems like a spoiled brat to me lol
 

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I hope I'm wrong but I think Advance Wars will go to the freezer just after it came back of it. I don't know if there will be any new games after those remakes. But I hope I'm wrong and in like a couple of years a brand new one comes by Way Forward.
Star Fox is sadly the safest bet as it is already dormant for 5 years and we have no clue on it reviving any time soon.
There are games that I don't consider going dormant because they were always meant to be a one time per gen thing, like Paper Mario and Luigi's Mansion. They'll come for sure but not until the next console. But I can see Luigi's Mansion 4 still happening on the Switch...
Well the one no one is talking about is... Smash. It completed DLC this year but was released in 2018. Next console is years off, and even then I don't think they'll have a game ready as fast as the Switch got. Moreso because the Everyone is Here is a one off thing. We would speculate of a port being the more likely but doing a Deluxe ala MK8DX wouldn't be so easy with DLC having some characters that were probably licensing nightmares.
 

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AW lol I don't see the remake doing very well, unfortunately.
I hope I'm wrong but I think Advance Wars will go to the freezer just after it came back of it. I don't know if there will be any new games after those remakes. But I hope I'm wrong and in like a couple of years a brand new one comes by Way Forward.
Well Nintendo seems to be doing fuck all to advertise for it so this seems like a real possibility yeah.
 

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Isn't a prodigy like actually good at what it does? SF seems like a spoiled brat to me lol
Well quite literally prodigal means “wasteful and extravagant” and the original Bible parable is about a son who gets a bigger inheritance than his brother, goes out and wastes it, and is welcomed back by the father saying he will always support him.

I dunno who the other son is in this parable. Let’s say Wario Land.
 
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I think ARMS might end up dormant just because the team will be occupied making other stuff for a while

Like, it'll always be on the schedule but we won't actually see ARMS 2 for a while.
 

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Mario Golf. It doesn't feel like the new one did all that great and it released to pretty meh critical reception. Let's get some unique Mario Sports games next please.
 

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Yeah... Smash Bros. pretty much ticks every box for a franchise about to go dormant. It's a weird case though because the franchise is so wildly successful and popular, yet it has been built like a house of cards. The franchise has been a pillar of Nintendo systems for over 20 years yet they gave themselves an impossible challenge on a future game.
 

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Yeah... Smash Bros. pretty much ticks every box for a franchise about to go dormant. It's a weird case though because the franchise is so wildly successful and popular, yet it has been built like a house of cards. The franchise has been a pillar of Nintendo systems for over 20 years yet they gave themselves an impossible challenge on a future game.
I'm predicting they go 3D for the next game, that's literally the only direction they can go in that won't pale next to Smash Ultimate. Imagine Pokemon Tournament but with Nintendo characters.
 

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.....goddammit, this is pretty much a guarantee. Unless it's built into another 2D game or it's 3D.
Never thought about 3D Mario Maker, that could be pretty cool.

Just feels like Mario Maker 2 came and then fell off the face of the planet.
 

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Yeah... Smash Bros. pretty much ticks every box for a franchise about to go dormant. It's a weird case though because the franchise is so wildly successful and popular, yet it has been built like a house of cards. The franchise has been a pillar of Nintendo systems for over 20 years yet they gave themselves an impossible challenge on a future game.
Ehhh Ultimate is a massive achievement that people into gaming know about but the swaths of casual gamers that bought it simply because it’s the new smash bros aren’t gonna care if, like, Kazuya, Richter and Incineroar are cut or something lol. And the smash fanbase is always gonna hype the newcomers regardless of the cuts.

I don’t think Smash going back to normal is as big of a death sentence as people think. It’ll have criticism and disappointment of course but there’s plenty of ways to keep it exciting
 

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Ehhh Ultimate is a massive achievement that people into gaming know about but the swaths of casual gamers that bought it simply because it’s the new smash bros aren’t gonna care if, like, Kazuya, Richter and Incineroar are cut or something lol. And the smash fanbase is always gonna hype the newcomers regardless of the cuts.

I don’t think Smash going back to normal is as big of a death sentence as people think. It’ll have criticism and disappointment of course but there’s plenty of ways to keep it exciting

I have a feeling Smash is gonna be rebooted. With Sakurai supposedly leaving the franchise (didn’t he say Ultimate was his last Smash game?) and having to beat the unbeatable game in terms of content it’s as good a time as any to go back to a more basic roster consisting of 16 or so characters (+ DLC) with completely new move sets. Mario with a move set based on Odyssey/Cappy, Link with a full BotW move set etc.
 

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Smash got an iteration this time and will undoubtably get one next console as well, even if they go in a new direction with it. It sells too well not to. I'd be hard pressed to consider that going dormant, even if the wait between titles will be longer than last time. Usually it takes six or seven years anyway.
 

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In my opinion a franchise isn’t dormant until it skips a console generation. With how long games take to make and Nintendo’s finite resources many franchises just won’t get multiple games on one console. Smash won’t get a new entry for another 4-5 years but it’s a one-per-gen franchise anyway, that’s not dormant at all. Luigi’s Mansion will definitely get a sequel given how well 3 did.

Star Fox seems like a good candidate, it probably won’t get a game on Switch.
 

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Smash isn't going dormant for any longer than the regular gap between installments, and that isn't dormancy by any reasonable definition; if you ask me Star Fox and Rhythm Heaven aren't dormant yet, only if they miss the Switch generation entirely.

With Sakurai supposedly leaving the franchise (didn’t he say Ultimate was his last Smash game?)

He didn't. He did say that during Brawl's production though, and look at how well it panned out! It's the methodology he has for all of his major projects; treat each game like the last one he'll ever work on, and put his all into it. I believe he viewed Melee and Smash 4 as the Last Ones during their production too; hell, probably Ultimate as well. Doesn't mean that's the case though; as he described in his Famitsu Column, during Ultimate's DLC production he still had no idea what he would be working on afterwards, so for all he knew it could be his last ever project, but chances are it won't be.

Smash is never going to go back to having a small roster unless it completely reinvents itself into a different sub-genre of fighting games, like an arena fighter; and I think the chances of that happening are very, very low. As much as the dedicated competitive players enjoy the gameplay and mechanics, it's the characters that sell the series to the majority of the audience. There's a very good reason why Everyone is Here happened in the first place after all: cut veterans were among the most requested characters on the ballot; even when people had the opportunity to ask for totally new characters that hadn't been in Smash before, they still requested their favourites from older titles, even Pichu and Young Link. I think they'd be wise to retain as much of the roster as they can the next go around.

During Smash 4's development Sakurai said the roster at that point was getting too big and the next Smash would need to downsize, and now we have Ultimate with 31 more character than those games. I think Iwata put it best really:

As new titles were added to the Super Smash Bros. series, the cast of characters grew and new modes were introduced, so that each installment boasted an exceptional volume of content. In general, I think that making a game bigger is oftentimes not the way to make it better, but with Super Smash Bros. I see things differently. It felt right to squeeze as much in there as possible, like some kind of a bottomless vessel, the sort of game where quantity works.
 

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I would say....ARMS. Something about the series just tells me it isn’t getting a sequel anytime soon.

I do feel Clubhouse games will be gone for a bit. Not really sure why lol

Smash? Just cause it’ll take awhile before the next sequel. Doesn’t mean it’ll be dormant.

Star Fox? The crew always finds a way to Come back
 

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Mario Maker. I don't think it sold enough for Nintendo to keep investing in it and they'd probably want to focus on original 2D mario games from now on.
 
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I have a feeling Smash is gonna be rebooted. With Sakurai supposedly leaving the franchise (didn’t he say Ultimate was his last Smash game?) and having to beat the unbeatable game in terms of content it’s as good a time as any to go back to a more basic roster consisting of 16 or so characters (+ DLC) with completely new move sets. Mario with a move set based on Odyssey/Cappy, Link with a full BotW move set etc.

It's always interesting to see the insistence on going back to like 16 characters.

They won't even consider for a minute doing that because they presumably are not in the business of deliberately destroying a franchises sales potential during the preproduction phase of development.

Nobody but an miniscule minority are even considering the idea of slashing 80% of the roster, let alone actively asking for it.


Especially when the current game had a prerelease ballot asking who they wanted and there such demand for even titan powerhouse characters like Pichu and Wolf that were previously cut that they made the immediate goal of the next game to bring literally everyone back.
 

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The question is if Pikmin 4 will breathe new life into the franchise or be its final cry.
 
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