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phyl0x

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i plan on putting an amfilm protector on when i get it (still hasnt shipped from nintendo.com). on launch day amazon had two version of the amfilm protector, the standard one (.33mm) and an ultra thin (.26mm). but now the ultra thin one 404's and i cannot find reference to it anywhere on the web.
 

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After playing with the OLED Model for a few days, I'm fairly confident that the "Console-Screen Colors" setting is to select a color space. The "Standard" mode represents the sRGB color gamut, giving you the colors resembling what's on the older Switch models. The "Vivid" is akin to the "Native" or "Wide" color settings on the OLED TVs. Since the OLED Model is equipped with a Samsung V series panel, and most phones using a V series panel are rated for the P3 color space, it's a good bet that "Vivid" mode represents the P3 color gamut.

Check out this webkit.org webpage to see the distinction between sRGB and P3 color spaces. If your display supports wide color, you should be able to see the WebKit logo in the middle image:

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The P3 color gamut offers about 25% more colors than sRGB. So the redder red that you see on the OLED Model isn't an oversaturated red, but a new red that the older Switch models aren't capable of displaying. Here's another webkit.org example:

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To illustrate this, I opened a Switch screenshot in Photoshop, and changed its color profile from sRGB to Display P3. As you can see below, despite the two screens being uncalibrated (and the intrinsic difference between OLED and LCD), the result of color profile change correspond to the toggle from "Standard" to "Vivid" on Switch OLED.

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(You'd see a much bigger difference between the two sides when viewing the image on a wide color display.)
 

randomengine

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It's now Tuesday and my OLED still has not shipped from Nintendo Store. I ordered it on Friday.

My Metroid Dread was ordered last week and now is stuck in FedEx warehouse hell. It's been in the same town since last Friday and they say I will get it by Thursday.......
 

Gaiaknight

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well things are getting interesting with my gamestop order so my initial order i just got notified was picked up but gamestop marked that as returned and are sending me a replacement but that one hasnt shipped out yet so there is a chance i end up with 2 switch oled and if that ends up the case well my nephew gets a nice christmas gift lol
 

phyl0x

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It's now Tuesday and my OLED still has not shipped from Nintendo Store. I ordered it on Friday.

My Metroid Dread was ordered last week and now is stuck in FedEx warehouse hell. It's been in the same town since last Friday and they say I will get it by Thursday.......
Same here, my store.nintendo.com has been in a status of "picked" since yesterday morning. I did go ahead and just buy Dread in a store and beat it...so at least i got that going for me.
 

Intoxicate

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After playing with the OLED Model for a few days, I'm fairly confident that the "Console-Screen Colors" setting is to select a color space. The "Standard" mode represents the sRGB color gamut, giving you the colors resembling what's on the older Switch models. The "Vivid" is akin to the "Native" or "Wide" color settings on the OLED TVs. Since the OLED Model is equipped with a Samsung V series panel, and most phones using a V series panel are rated for the P3 color space, it's a good bet that "Vivid" mode represents the P3 color gamut.

Check out this webkit.org webpage to see the distinction between sRGB and P3 color spaces. If your display supports wide color, you should be able to see the WebKit logo in the middle image:

K803Taa.jpeg


The P3 color gamut offers about 25% more colors than sRGB. So the redder red that you see on the OLED Model isn't an oversaturated red, but a new red that the older Switch models aren't capable of displaying. Here's another webkit.org example:

WNwEbrT.jpeg


To illustrate this, I opened a Switch screenshot in Photoshop, and changed its color profile from sRGB to Display P3. As you can see below, despite the two screens being uncalibrated (and the intrinsic difference between OLED and LCD), the result of color profile change correspond to the toggle from "Standard" to "Vivid" on Switch OLED.

2AiTY23.jpg

(You'd see a much bigger difference between the two sides when viewing the image on a wide color display.)

Great post, the question then is, what was the basis for developing the games. I mean if the developers had sRGB in mind (or less colors, think 8-bit, 16-bit) what does the DCI is P3 “upscaling” do? I want my Mario games to show the Mario red and not some vibrant pink.

The first impression I had was the LCD on my V2 switch is better matching that red then my Swoled does in both modes. But I’m eager to see some screen tests with a proper calibration tool. I also have the feeling the screen is “burning” in and getting better (I had this with several phones and also the V1 Switch, the glue needs to dry before getting fully transparent).
 

randomengine

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Lucky! Mines still in picked, I got the white joycons, did you get white or neon?
White. I got errors like crazy when I started to order and so I was worried I would accidently order like 12 of them and kill my bank account, lol.

I ordered mine on Friday. Didn't you order yours later? If so, it shouldn't be long now! The shipping said 4-9 days, but if this is accurate will be only 2, thank the stars for that!
 
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Great post, the question then is, what was the basis for developing the games. I mean if the developers had sRGB in mind (or less colors, think 8-bit, 16-bit) what does the DCI is P3 “upscaling” do? I want my Mario games to show the Mario red and not some vibrant pink.

The first impression I had was the LCD on my V2 switch is better matching that red then my Swoled does in both modes. But I’m eager to see some screen tests with a proper calibration tool. I also have the feeling the screen is “burning” in and getting better (I had this with several phones and also the V1 Switch, the glue needs to dry before getting fully transparent).

That's a perfect way to put it - It's great that the display provides a wider color gamut. If they start designing games that can take advantage of that while keeping Mario's hat red, I'd love to see it. But for now the choice is between standard, more accurate colors and vivid oversaturated colors. I'll stick with standard.
 

phyl0x

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White. I got errors like crazy when I started to order and so I was worried I would accidently order like 12 of them and kill my bank account, lol.

I ordered mine on Friday. Didn't you order yours later? If so, it shouldn't be long now! The shipping said 4-9 days, but if this is accurate will be only 2, thank the stars for that!
Yeah got mine on Friday (11:42am eastern) too, also lots of errors (first time i got to the final order screen after the credit card and then it errored on confirmation)...had two charges like 40 mins apart before..but thats been resolved since down to one charge.
 

fwd-bwd

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Great post, the question then is, what was the basis for developing the games. I mean if the developers had sRGB in mind (or less colors, think 8-bit, 16-bit) what does the DCI is P3 “upscaling” do? I want my Mario games to show the Mario red and not some vibrant pink.
Thanks. When displaying an sRGB image on a P3 screen, your device may either:
  1. maintain the original colors - more "accurate" but you're not enjoying the expanded color space; this is the standard mode on OLED Model
  2. or, map the original colors to their relative positions in the expanded color space - less "accurate" but you're getting all the colors; this is the vivid mode on OLED Model, and similar to the "tone mapping" feature on some TVs
Example: The area within the white sRGB line contains all the red colors in the sRGB color gamut. The area beyond the white line contains the additional red colors in the P3 color gamut. The OS maps the sRGB red to a new relative P3 red before displaying it.
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If the developer would like to target the wide color gamut, they do so by embedding the P3 color profile with their image and video files and directly rendering wide color content using Vulkan or OpenGL. If a game is done this way, they would look "accurate" in the vivid mode. But the opposite will happen on the sRGB devices and TV; the colors will mapped from the P3 space to the sRGB space, and thus less "accurate" for the sRGB/standard mode users. But mapping it this direction usually isn't as bad as mapping from sRGB to P3.
 

Lucifer

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I was weak and I caved lol. The OLED Switch feels like the same device but quite a bit more premium, which I love. Screen is gorgeous and love the bigger size, definitely a big difference there.

Tested the internet connection a couple of times and it got up to 80 mb, on my old dock with an ethernet dongle it only got up to 40 mb or so.
 

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Going from a day 1 Switch which has seen it's best days to an OLED has been quite nice I must say

I've mostly been in awe by the screen - I have definitely played more handheld with the OLED compared to OG, but I didnt really think about the battery life until recently, that's massive difference.
 

Tlozbj

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We are still waiting on it to leave Jaxport towards PR or if it is in one of the two boats that sailed today for it to arrive and be delivered. Though the tracking isn't helping, last detailed description was it had arrived at Jacksonville on the 10. Since then it has only been daily "In Transit. Arriving in Time" updates since the 11. A friend who frequently buys Funko via UPSMI-USPS Parcel Select says it is normal, so I guess we will continue to wait :/
 

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Going from a day 1 Switch which has seen it's best days to an OLED has been quite nice I must say

I've mostly been in awe by the screen - I have definitely played more handheld with the OLED compared to OG, but I didnt really think about the battery life until recently, that's massive difference.
Same with me. My V1 Switch compared to the OLED is night and day.
 
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Same with me. My V1 Switch compared to the OLED is night and day.
Mine as well. I play almost exclusively in handheld and the more premium feel, the larger/nicer screen, and better battery life has been a huge difference. Now I just need to get work out of the way so I can play my oled and watch football all weekend.
 

totofogo

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Losing that sort by total playtime stings, why Nintendo why.

Is my best bet here to enable parental controls to see play time per game, that might carry over? That MyNintendo App that Japan got which showed playtime never came westward did it...
 

phyl0x

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Yeah got mine on Friday (11:42am eastern) too, also lots of errors (first time i got to the final order screen after the credit card and then it errored on confirmation)...had two charges like 40 mins apart before..but thats been resolved since down to one charge.
finally got a tracking number, just label created as of now, but its on its way finally.

update: delivery scheduled for next thursday....6 full days..uck
 
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Intoxicate

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Here it is with my new red Joy Cons that i ordered from Nintendo Store 2 weeks ago (i'm not a fan of the white nor the neons) :

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The grey Joy Con fit the Swoled quite well. The grey matches the color of the screen, both turned off and in dark mode. However the Odyssey red still is special to me and was on my V1/V2 most of the time, so why fight it, I just swapped the shells back to that 🤗

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Ryosuke

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I hope whatever revision or successor comes next can keep the OLED screen (or something better, if it takes too long). I am a handheld player, through and through (except for Ring Fit, for obvious reasons), but I can't justify buying this revision just for the screen, even if I'm right in the % of players who would benefit the most from using it (I'm literally 95%+ handheld and 5% docked, just for my daily exercise).

I had even saved my money for this, but when it was revealed I ended up just using somewhere else.
 

Tendo

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I can't get over how great this looks. I've barely put it down all week. I do hate how a few games are more pixelated, but the bigger screen and colors make up for it.
 

Imitatio

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I'm in the same boat as others on here in that I don't want to dock my OLED at all, lmao.
I enjoy playing on the screen so much more than on my VA panel monitor. Before with the OG Switch my usage basically ended up looking something like >90% handheld & <10% docked, but now I could see that changing to basically 100% handheld.

I'm still using my OG Switch as a docked only option at this point, but honestly, the save data cloud transfer and such take too long and take away from the otherwise seamless hybrid nature of the device, which is why I don't see myself using the two like that in the long run.
 

Shadow14

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The grey Joy Con fit the Swoled quite well. The grey matches the color of the screen, both turned off and in dark mode. However the Odyssey red still is special to me and was on my V1/V2 most of the time, so why fight it, I just swapped the shells back to that 🤗

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I26j9A1.jpg
I like the look of the grey ones and my original plan was to use then the SwOled, but after 4 years with them and a small accident, i had to buy new ones. I'm really happy with how the red Joy Cons look on the SwOled, and seeing your photos assures me that i made the right decision.
 

Sir Charles

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Cool, thanks. I'm just worried it's gonna rip off or damage the existing adhesive film I ever remove it. 🤔
Don't have any hard data or experience myself, but I remember reading some online assurances that the film Nintendo applied is nigh impossible to remove without totally wrecking the actual screen, for what it's worth.

I was stuck adding the tempered glass protector either way, living in a household with 4 young kids running around!
 

Byakuya

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Well, good to know. I'm very careful with my devices anyway so it prolly won't be an issue. My OG model is still using the same screen protector I applied on launch day and even that isn't scratched yet.
 

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I canceled my pre-order for this with all the talks about the 4K Switch news.

But I can't help but think of all the dopamine and excitement I would have right now playing with a fancy oled switch. Can i live through someone's else's happiness? Someone share me the giddy and joy you are feeling with your OLED Switch.
 

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I canceled my pre-order for this with all the talks about the 4K Switch news.

But I can't help but think of all the dopamine and excitement I would have right now playing with a fancy oled switch. Can i live through someone's else's happiness? Someone share me the giddy and joy you are feeling with your OLED Switch.
I loved mine! It really feels and looks better than the OG in every way. Even my wife that was against the purchase is telling me she wants one lol.
 

Illucio

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I loved mine! It really feels and looks better than the OG in every way. Even my wife that was against the purchase is telling me she wants one lol.
Any notable games where the screen just pops. I have a 4k oled at home and playing Switch games on it is sad experience. Especially when they aren't even 1080p and some weird level between 720p and 1080p.
 

storres

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Any notable games where the screen just pops. I have a 4k oled at home and playing Switch games on it is sad experience. Especially when they aren't even 1080p and some weird level between 720p and 1080p.
For me, the majority of them.
 

Pineapple Pizza

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I’ve removed mine twice because dust or bubbles got behind the screen protector, no damage
I removed mine thrice! Haha. No apparent damage either. I've given up on glass for now and have ordered a Hori protector film off Amazon. I found one in storage for my old Wii U gamepad and I applied it to see how easy it is and was amazed it went on so quickly with no bubbles. It definitely won't take a beating like tempered glass but it's ultra thin.

Right now I'm just being super careful docking, especially in the older docks. We have two downstairs and one in the bedroom!
 

Milannoir

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I'm really in love with this new version of the Switch. The screen does make a massive difference to me to the point that I want to play some of my favourite games again on it right after I'm done with Dread and a couple other games I'm going through with my kids. The better battery is also nice, however the ethernet connection is a bit of a disappointment because I didn't notice any improvement for DL time compared to WiFi, though that's really down to my shitty countryside internet connection.

I wanted to apply a tempered glass protection immediately as I did for my OG, but now I'm afraid to spoil the visual quality because I've never managed to install one of those on a Switch or Phone without having at least one little speck of dust getting underneath and driving me crazy.
 

Imitatio

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I do find the Swoled actually collects more dust than my OG Switch (no, 'tis no joke a la "anyone else's Switch collecting dust?!", lol). No clue what's causing it (electro-magnetic field? I'm no physicist, sorry! haha), but it's like a dust magnet compared to my launch Switch. It's just a tad annoying, tbh.
 

Zen & Tonic

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I was able to order one online (woo!), but now I’m torn in whether or not to buy a screen protector. It took me like three hours to properly get one on my Animal Crossing Switch, and I’m already dreading going through that again.

So basically I’m looking for someone to talk me out of it
 

storres

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I was able to order one online (woo!), but now I’m torn in whether or not to buy a screen protector. It took me like three hours to properly get one on my Animal Crossing Switch, and I’m already dreading going through that again.

So basically I’m looking for someone to talk me out of it
I would say get one and have a friend or family member do it for you. IMO, it's always important to protect the screen the best we can
 

Jersh

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I canceled my pre-order for this with all the talks about the 4K Switch news.

But I can't help but think of all the dopamine and excitement I would have right now playing with a fancy oled switch. Can i live through someone's else's happiness? Someone share me the giddy and joy you are feeling with your OLED Switch.
Heh - every now and then I'm just hit with "did I waste $350 on a device I'm replacing in a year?".

But otherwise, yeah, it's absolutely great. Everything about holding it the first time was fantastic, down to how the improved Joy-Con rails feel when sliding them on. The Dread title screen intro is practically an OLED demo in dark rooms. I'm loving the white as much as I thought I would.
 

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The improved build quality on the OLED model Switch is an even bigger deal for a handheld user imo. The original models I had experience with always felt really fragile in my hands due to the light plastic construction. The Joy-Cons feeling more solid in the rails, the vastly improved kickstand and the general weightiness makes me feel way more confident in it's longevity. The better screen is just a cherry on top.
 
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