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Obi-Wan Kenobi was good! Almost felt like a proper entry into the Skywalker Saga imo. I honestly think the Disney era has been really good for Vader in particular because his more recent appearances have been a lot more human and a lot scarier than his original trilogy portrayal.
 

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Okay has anybody caught that latest episode of Andor?

I'm straight up feeling anxiety in these prison scenes, they're taking the Empire to a..... really dark place
 

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Okay has anybody caught that latest episode of Andor?

I'm straight up feeling anxiety in these prison scenes, they're taking the Empire to a..... really dark place
I just started Andor yesterday. Should be caught up within the next few days I think.
 

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Okay has anybody caught that latest episode of Andor?

I'm straight up feeling anxiety in these prison scenes, they're taking the Empire to a..... really dark place
The scene where they are stuck in the hallway did an amazing job of building the tension up.
Really amazing show that keeps getting better
 

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Look, I adore Rogue One, but if anyone had told me last year that a show based on Cassian fucking Andor would be the most compelling and well written media to come out of Disney's Star Wars onslaught, I would have laughed my ass off.

And yet, here we are.
 

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At this point I'd go so far as to say Andor is my favorite piece of post-Disney acquisition Star Wars media. It feels unreal how well-paced and earned every bit of tension and payoff is.

Also, something about the prison sequence is so unsettling deep in my gut and I can't explain why. Maybe it's the way that everything unexpectedly looks like a sterile hospital contrasting with the dark and hopeless sense of despair that pervades every mind. Maybe it's the terrifying way that the very floor they stand on is woven into their daily life as a cruel method of punishment.

But most of all I think it's the detachment between the prisoners and their keepers that makes it feel so dehumanizing. These prisoners never come in contact with a guard screaming in their faces or ordering them around. Instead, they are so removed from society and their own humanity that their orders and punishment come from a disembodied voice and an electrified floor. I think that's what it is. The prison is an exhibition of methodical, efficiently cruel dehumanization.

I haven't had a piece of Star Wars media so effectively convince me that the Empire is evil.
 

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Im just thrilled they made a literal Planet Scotland.
I'm a little behind, take it easy on me
 

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I am torn between Andor and Rogue One, but I think I am leaning towards Andor as well when it comes to best Disney era Star Wars media.

The rest did not gel with me for a multitude of reasons. Mando was entertaining for a while, but fell off the moment they crammed it full of unnecessary fan service. Don't get me started on the rest.

But both Rogue One and Andor show that there is so much potential for telling more down to earth stories that don't rely on the tired old space wizard formula. Andor especially you could show to someone who doesn't care for Star Wars, and chances are they might still enjoy it.
 

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Well now I’m caught up with on-screen canon Star Wars. Favorites so far are Revenge of the Sith, The Last Jedi, Rebels, and Andor, in no particular order.

Just off the top of my head though. Clone Wars was also incredible, Bad Batch is great and I love the Mando shows so far.
 

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Has anyone watched Tales of the Jedi yet?
This hasn't appeared to garner much reaction, so I'll go ahead with my impression. I thought some moments were actually pretty good -- Dooku's contemplative time in front if that tree is a standout --, but overall it felt like rough drafts.

Yeah, The Book of Boba Fett is the "controversial one" but that's only because of Boba Fett fans lmao
Nah, I've touched on this before, a couple times, actually, and my conclusion was really just that the series was a mess that didn't really do anything worthwhile. It occasionally seemed to set up ideas to follow up on, but just never actually did anything with them. Again, moving action figures around.

Mando was entertaining for a while, but fell off the moment they crammed it full of unnecessary fan service.
Many of the wider universe, theoretically more fanservice-oriented, characters they brought in -- Boba Fett, Bo Katan, Ahsoka Tano -- each had thematically appropriate reasons to be included, ideas complementary to Din's story arc, given questions of creed and what makes a Mandalorian and the question of walking away from what one once knew; they offered thematic material, which I found went disappointingly underused. One could argue that these ideas are implied through the characters' presence and that we already know Din is wrestling with such themes, but this seems insufficient.

It's a treatment that seems almost ubiquitous, and it's a reason Andor is so refreshing -- as well as really just being that good.

If I point to Andor as an example of what Star Wars could be, I'm not necessarily referring to the tone or subject material (though some of it, the fighting back against fascism and oppression in general, has been at the series' core), but about the writing, the treatment of characters and story and theme with care, that additional reason to be invested.

You can still have The Mandalorian, the Old West pastiche, Lone Wolf and Cub, callback to an older day of television, but putting in this care and the effort to tighten these elements will only elevate the whole thing -- recognizably what we have, just stronger.

I'm hoping Acolyte manages to work in these ways.

Star Wars needs a permanent "Garbage Galaxy" tag, but it's all good.
I dare someone to slap Andor with a Garbage Galaxy tag.
 

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To add to my Tales of the Jedi comment, though, it has been nice to see the evolution and improvement of the animation style as time has gone on.

On that note, the hand-drawn LucasFilm x Studio Ghibli -Zen- short, this featuring Grogu and the Dust Bunnies, released.

That had some nice animation and style, and I suspect the music will receive favorable reception as well.

There's not really much to say about story -- one might consider it more an exercise
of zen -- and it clocks in at three minutes. I will note that I recognize those soot sprites and the real major plot twist is that Grogu never once tries eating them.

I get the impression this -Zen- is meant to continue further, whatever the content might end up being
 

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To add to my Tales of the Jedi comment, though, it has been nice to see the evolution and improvement of the animation style as time has gone on.

On that note, the hand-drawn LucasFilm x Studio Ghibli -Zen- short, this featuring Grogu and the Dust Bunnies, released.

That had some nice animation and style, and I suspect the music will receive favorable reception as well.

There's not really much to say about story -- one might consider it more an exercise
of zen -- and it clocks in at three minutes. I will note that I recognize those soot sprites and the real major plot twist is that Grogu never once tries eating them.

I get the impression this -Zen- is meant to continue further, whatever the content might end up being

Pretty much exactly how I thought the Grogu sketch was going to go. Oh well, that's cool Ghibli was involved with Star Wars in any capacity
 

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Ghibli making a Star Wars thing is depressing on an existential level to me. Must everything become grist for the bland white bread Star Wars/Disney mill?
 
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At this point I'd go so far as to say Andor is my favorite piece of post-Disney acquisition Star Wars media. It feels unreal how well-paced and earned every bit of tension and payoff is.

Also, something about the prison sequence is so unsettling deep in my gut and I can't explain why. Maybe it's the way that everything unexpectedly looks like a sterile hospital contrasting with the dark and hopeless sense of despair that pervades every mind. Maybe it's the terrifying way that the very floor they stand on is woven into their daily life as a cruel method of punishment.

But most of all I think it's the detachment between the prisoners and their keepers that makes it feel so dehumanizing. These prisoners never come in contact with a guard screaming in their faces or ordering them around. Instead, they are so removed from society and their own humanity that their orders and punishment come from a disembodied voice and an electrified floor. I think that's what it is. The prison is an exhibition of methodical, efficiently cruel dehumanization.

I haven't had a piece of Star Wars media so effectively convince me that the Empire is evil.
Probably because prisons like this exist in America and in many parts of the world.

Hell, Andor is literally there because someone thought he was looking at him funny.

That's why it's uncomfortable.
 
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It’s fantastic. When I first saw Rogue One in the theater, one of my main complaints was that the characters weren’t as well developed as they could’ve been, and I had guessed that they were either going to do a TV series or a comic book to flesh some of them out.

I’m glad we got Andor because not only is it fleshing out his character, but also expanding on the political side of the Empire, which is something I’ve always been curious about.

It would be cool to see a series or movie about the force monk who’s name escapes me.
 

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Andy circus is killing it. I hope his character somehow survives, but it would be fitting if this was the end for him.

I don’t want to see him back in the chalns of the empire.
 

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Pretty much exactly how I thought the Grogu sketch was going to go. Oh well, that's cool Ghibli was involved with Star Wars in any capacity
Indeed, it doesn't leave that much to say, particularly. It's cute -- as is often the driving force behind Grogu material -- and has nice animation and style. The unexpected character development of the little green menace was a nice touch, though, but isn't likely to be carried through.

Regardless, it is cool in a way, though I definitely see where the thought that it's a waste of Ghibli can originate.

Ghibli making a Star Wars thing is depressing on an existential level to me. Must everything become grist for the bland white bread Star Wars/Disney mill?

The idea of this being a waste of Ghibli is especially potent because of how highly revered the studio is and how original their output can be. It presents a particular opportunity cost.

My thought here is that, while we don't know the particulars of how this sketch came to be, this seems like something the people at Ghibli probably did specifically because they wanted to. And it's small enough that aforementioned opportunity cost is minimized -- it even almost seems like something that could have been conceptualized as an animation test project.

As for the idea of the bland white bread Star Wars/Disney mill, there's a contingent that thinks projects for these properties don't need to fall into such blandness and hope for more that does not.

This is part of why so many people are psychedfor Andor. It's just legitimately good.

Can I say it?

I'm gonna say it
What's that? I couldn't really hear it. Can you say it louder for the class?
 

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Andy circus is killing it. I hope his character somehow survives, but it would be fitting if this was the end for him.

I don’t want to see him back in the chalns of the empire.
This seems to be the general sentiment overall, yeah.

I do find it's still possible, even if we were to never see him again, but putting the end right there is absolutely fitting, and it ties in well with the scene and monologue we cut to. Whatever happens after, the character's frame of mind was in that place. It's just really well constructed and pulled off.

That was a well-executed character journey and served as a good emotional anchor in the episode.

He knew what the endpoint was, encapsulated by that slogan-turned-chant, and I strongly doubt he's going back to that cage one way or another.


It’s fantastic. When I first saw Rogue One in the theater, one of my main complaints was that the characters weren’t as well developed as they could’ve been, and I had guessed that they were either going to do a TV series or a comic book to flesh some of them out.

I’m glad we got Andor because not only is it fleshing out his character, but also expanding on the political side of the Empire, which is something I’ve always been curious about.

It would be cool to see a series or movie about the force monk who’s name escapes me.
Can you imagine if we'd gotten Rogue One as a series along these lines, with the same level of care and everything, rather than simply as a retroactive finale to this series?

The different pieces and characters did their jobs, but what more might have been explored?

I do definitely appreciate the touching on political aspects and mechanisms here, how that all works and plays together. Granted, I also liked the idea of political drama in the prequels, just wished it were better realized.

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The idea of this being a waste of Ghibli is especially potent because of how highly revered the studio is and how original their output can be. It presents a particular opportunity cost.

My thought here is that, while we don't know the particulars of how this sketch came to be, this seems like something the people at Ghibli probably did specifically because they wanted to. And it's small enough that aforementioned opportunity cost is minimized -- it even almost seems like something that could have been conceptualized as an animation test project.

As for the idea of the bland white bread Star Wars/Disney mill, there's a contingent that thinks projects for these properties don't need to fall into such blandness and hope for more that does not.
I hate Star Wars, at least what it represents culturally. While I personally doubt Andor is any good, even if it is, I'm sure it would be much better without being Stars Wars. Its a kind of cultural death that all ideas and stories have to be pressed through the mill of Corporate Franchising.

In conclusion: Star wars sux lol
 

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I hate Star Wars, at least what it represents culturally. While I personally doubt Andor is any good, even if it is, I'm sure it would be much better without being Stars Wars. Its a kind of cultural death that all ideas and stories have to be pressed through the mill of Corporate Franchising.

In conclusion: Star wars sux lol

I'd say this is not the thread you're looking for then
 

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this is not the thread you're looking for
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He'd obviously hit it out of the park like he did with TLJ but I'm not sure I want him tied up with the IP for a potential trilogy. After he's done with Knives Out 3 I hope he does something original first.
 

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He'd obviously hit it out of the park like he did with TLJ but I'm not sure I want him tied up with the IP for a potential trilogy. After he's done with Knives Out 3 I hope he does something original first.
You did nothing wrong, king.

Also I sort of took a break (not really cause I ended up watching obi wan because of course I did) from Star Wars because I got really burnt out on the sequel trilogy ending with a whimper, Disney and Abrams being unable to build on the ideas that TLJ had set up and the company not really knowing what to do with the franchise and giving us ok-to-bland TV shows.

Andor looks like it's really good so maybe I'll give it a watch? I didn't like Rogue One as much as everyone did so Andor-the-character really says nothing to me. Is it that good?
 

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You did nothing wrong, king.

Also I sort of took a break (not really cause I ended up watching obi wan because of course I did) from Star Wars because I got really burnt out on the sequel trilogy ending with a whimper, Disney and Abrams being unable to build on the ideas that TLJ had set up and the company not really knowing what to do with the franchise and giving us ok-to-bland TV shows.

Andor looks like it's really good so maybe I'll give it a watch? I didn't like Rogue One as much as everyone did so Andor-the-character really says nothing to me. Is it that good?
I've only seen the first three episodes of Andor so my feelings on it might change. But as someone who didn't enjoy Rogue One that much either, I think Andor starts out a bit slow but is pretty good so far. The writing and characterization feels purposeful and it's nice to have a Star Wars story that doesn't expect encyclopaedic knowledge of this world and its inhabitants. It's basically what I hoped their Anthology movies would be like.
 

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Andor looks like it's really good so maybe I'll give it a watch? I didn't like Rogue One as much as everyone did so Andor-the-character really says nothing to me. Is it that good?
Andor is really good. And it doesn't really depend too much on Andor-the-character to get there, it depends on the whole cast and the general vibe. It's a bit of a slow burn at first setting up all the characters and situations but once it got going I found it quite compelling. Probably gonna be my favorite Star Wars series by the time it's done.
 

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You did nothing wrong, king.
My opinions on Luke aside, my main qualms with Johnson will always be focused on what he did with Finn. Or rather, what he and the writers didn't do. I keep thinking back to what Boyega said at the BLM rally in London and in following interviews, years back.

Sure, I'm glad that Disney and SW apparently got "the message" when it came to Boyega's remarks in wake of his (and his fellow minority actors') soured experience with the recent Star Wars films. And I would certainly hope that if Johnson's supposed trilogy ever materializes, he'll do better, next time.
 

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Andor finally asks the question we've had since 1977
How do they brush their teeth in Star Wars?
 

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I hate Star Wars, at least what it represents culturally. While I personally doubt Andor is any good, even if it is, I'm sure it would be much better without being Stars Wars. Its a kind of cultural death that all ideas and stories have to be pressed through the mill of Corporate Franchising.

In conclusion: Star wars sux lol
This is a conclusion lacking in support.

While I can see where the general sentiment might originate -- a glance at pop culture could suggest everything truly is being pulled into an inescapable black hole of the same things controlled by the same people, spiraling into the the creation of a media singularity and the heat death of all culture -- reality is a touch more nuanced.

There is endless new media unconnected to any of this franchising: while much of this deserves to be appreciated by a larger audience, even celebrated, it does unfortunately tend to lack the same media push and marketing benefit which larger franchises appreciate, but this doesn't mean everything created in one of these franchises is bad. There's no actual logical connection there.

It can definitely seem that way sometimes, of course, given the oft-apparent need to churn out new content to keep a franchise relevant or for some misguided ploy to amass greater profit, all of which can lead to a deluge of dross, but it still doesn't reach the decisiveness displayed.

And sometimes an existing universe can be leveraged, with built-in themes and intertextuality, history, motifs, and images that can be used as shorthand to support the larger intent, and so forth (I've very briefly mentioned Andor's use of series' iconography and history[1] before as well as what I see as The Mandalorian's failure to effectively use thematic support readily available to it[2]). These could theoretically be reworked for something to exist outside the universe in question, but not necessarily always to such economical effect, and removing a story from one of these universes won't necessarily improve it, except, maybe, for one's own estimation of the project.

What about removing a story from an established universe would always lead to its betterment?

How does the idea of this media singularity necessarily mean an individual project must be bad, entirely divorced from any details about the piece of media itself?

In conclusion, I don't really award marks for internet hot takes, and your conclusion calls for support it hasn't been given.

It doesn't merely rely on the iconography of the past, trying to justify its existence through sheer nostalgia and recognizability, but uses that iconography and filmic language to its own ends or recontextualizes it, whether that be the deeper importance of a kyber crystal -- left unstated, but lending further weight to the exchange -- or the terror evoked by the hum of a tie fighter., even just the suggestion that the universe runs entirely on luck. It adds texture to and amplifies the rest of the Star Wars mythos, rather than propping itself up against it.
Many of the wider universe, theoretically more fanservice-oriented, characters they brought in -- Boba Fett, Bo Katan, Ahsoka Tano -- each had thematically appropriate reasons to be included, ideas complementary to Din's story arc, given questions of creed and what makes a Mandalorian and the question of walking away from what one once knew; they offered thematic material, which I found went disappointingly underused. One could argue that these ideas are implied through the characters' presence and that we already know Din is wrestling with such themes, but this seems insufficient.
 

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This is a conclusion lacking in support.

While I can see where the general sentiment might originate -- a glance at pop culture could suggest everything truly is being pulled into an inescapable black hole of the same things controlled by the same people, spiraling into the the creation of a media singularity and the heat death of all culture -- reality is a touch more nuanced.

There is endless new media unconnected to any of this franchising: while much of this deserves to be appreciated by a larger audience, even celebrated, it does unfortunately tend to lack the same media push and marketing benefit which larger franchises appreciate, but this doesn't mean everything created in one of these franchises is bad. There's no actual logical connection there.

It can definitely seem that way sometimes, of course, given the oft-apparent need to churn out new content to keep a franchise relevant or for some misguided ploy to amass greater profit, all of which can lead to a deluge of dross, but it still doesn't reach the decisiveness displayed.

And sometimes an existing universe can be leveraged, with built-in themes and intertextuality, history, motifs, and images that can be used as shorthand to support the larger intent, and so forth (I've very briefly mentioned Andor's use of series' iconography and history[1] before as well as what I see as The Mandalorian's failure to effectively use thematic support readily available to it[2]). These could theoretically be reworked for something to exist outside the universe in question, but not necessarily always to such economical effect, and removing a story from one of these universes won't necessarily improve it, except, maybe, for one's own estimation of the project.

What about removing a story from an established universe would always lead to its betterment?

How does the idea of this media singularity necessarily mean an individual project must be bad, entirely divorced from any details about the piece of media itself?

In conclusion, I don't really award marks for internet hot takes, and your conclusion calls for support it hasn't been given.

Ok
 

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"I don't award marks" Hey professor! Did you forget that you're not in class right now?

I don't really think it's a hot take to suggest that not all stories need to be told through the lens of one of the biggest franchises of all time, owned by one of the biggest corporations ever. If anything, it's a cold take. I certainly don't think such an idea warrants an essay in response or a demand for logic. And before you get started, I don't need one in response either!


On a note more relevant to this thread, if you know where to look there are some fantastic bootleg Blu-Rays of the original trilogy, based on HD film scans. They look wonderful and I highly recommend watching them this way if you can.
 
Ghibli making a Star Wars thing is depressing on an existential level to me. Must everything become grist for the bland white bread Star Wars/Disney mill?
Ghibli has mostly been slumming it since Spirited Away so it's not like they're besmirching their good name lol. They're already Disney but Japanese™.
 

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Ghibli has mostly been slumming it since Spirited Away so it's not like they're besmirching their good name lol. They're already Disney but Japanese™.

This is an insane take, especially after Princess Kaguya. That movie is beautiful and heartbreaking!

Not to mention both Marnie and The Wind Rises are very good.
 

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To try and veer things back on topic (and since I brought up The Wind Rises), can I just say how much I appreciate Werner Herzog's appearance in season 1 of The Mandalorian? He's just so charismatic and entertaining! I'd actually like to get the action figure of him. I saw it online, but I don't recall how much it costs. Is it affordable, or are they really trying to gouge the niche this falls into?
 

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Unbelievable to see someone just walk into a Star Wars thread to talk about how bad it "must be" with absolutely no intention of having any sort of discussion

Do people just come into your house or something?
 
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I think this is rude and unnecessary

I'm sorry, but that did bother me. I found it rude to dismiss her opinion as a "hot take" and act as if it's some sort of paper being graded. If I've come off as too rude in response, then I apologize to Supreme Overlord.
 

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I'm sorry, but that did bother me. I found it rude to dismiss her opinion as a "hot take" and act as if it's some sort of paper being graded. If I've come off as too rude in response, then I apologize to Supreme Overlord.
Yeah, I understand. Thanks for explaining. And I know SO's writing style can definitely come across as patronizing to someone not expecting such... verbosity.

SO drops frickin MLA formatted dissertations three times a day, and their comment was a genuine request for discussion that PS rudely dismissed, simply because SO didn't pick up on the fact that she wasn't interested in discussing it in the first place.

Edit: One thing - I'm not sure where you got the idea SO was dismissing her opinion at all. It was indeed a hot take. Her take was that "Andor is bad and I don't even need to watch it to know because X". That's a hot take, especially in this thread. But to say SO dismissed it when they dropped several well-thought out paragraphs doesn't seem accurate.
 

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Yeah, I understand. Thanks for explaining. And I know SO's writing style can definitely come across as patronizing to someone not expecting such... verbosity.

SO drops frickin MLA formatted dissertations three times a day, and their comment was a genuine request for discussion that PS rudely dismissed, simply because SO didn't pick up on the fact that she wasn't interested in discussing it in the first place.

Edit: One thing - I'm not sure where you got the idea SO was dismissing her opinion at all. It was indeed a hot take. Her take was that "Andor is bad and I don't even need to watch it to know because X". That's a hot take, especially in this thread. But to say SO dismissed it when they dropped several well-thought out paragraphs doesn't seem accurate.
Yeah, that's not what I said. I said "I personally doubt its good, and even if it is, it would be better if it wasn't Star Wars" and I stand by that statement. I really don't think I would enjoy Andor based on what I've seen and heard.
I don't think not wanting to respond to someone trying to own me with facts and logic is being rude, and I felt nothing they said refuted what I said. You may think that SO dropping an essay on me isn't patronizing, but I certainty don't see it that way. I actually found the line about not awarding me marks extremely insulting. Like I'm sorry I find Disney's steamrolling of culture depressing, I promise I won't post about it here anymore.
 

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Yeah, that's not what I said. I said "I personally doubt its good, and even if it is, it would be better if it wasn't Star Wars" and I stand by that statement.
"I doubt it's good" tells me two things: you haven't seen it, and you've already judged it.

I really don't think I would enjoy Andor based on what I've seen and heard.
Okay see that's a far different meaning from "I doubt it's good", I can dig that

I don't think not wanting to respond to someone trying to own me with facts and logic is being rude,
And you're right, but instead you pinged them with a notification for a sarcastic "Ok"

I actually found the line about not awarding me marks extremely insulting.
I feel sorry about that

Like I'm sorry I find Disney's steamrolling of culture depressing, I promise I won't post about it here anymore.
I'm sure that's a discussion many of us here, including SO, would receive very positively and even in agreement under a different context than a Star Wars ST
 
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This is an insane take, especially after Princess Kaguya. That movie is beautiful and heartbreaking!

Not to mention both Marnie and The Wind Rises are very good.
The keyword was "mostly." I like a handful of their post-Spirited Away works but they're very much the outliers. Yeah theres Kaguya but there's also completely middling affairs like Cat Returns or Arietty. I like Wind Rises but I wouldn't namedrop it to make Ghibli look good when countless people find it's politics questionable at best. Once any studio lets Goro Miyazaki direct then they lose any semblance of being above franchise work.
 

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My attempt at a Herzog discussion has failed, but I'm glad things are resolved (I hope?).

The keyword was "mostly." I like a handful of their post-Spirited Away works but they're very much the outliers. Yeah theres Kaguya but there's also completely middling affairs like Cat Returns or Arietty. I like Wind Rises but I wouldn't namedrop it to make Ghibli look good when countless people find it's politics questionable at best. Once any studio lets Goro Miyazaki direct then they lose any semblance of being above franchise work.

I just can't agree with your conclusion. Goro's missteps in no way dilute some of the wonderful work later Ghibli has put out. I don't think we'll see eye to eye on this.
 

Phosphorescent Skeleton

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My attempt at a Herzog discussion has failed, but I'm glad things are resolved (I hope?).



I just can't agree with your conclusion. Goro's missteps in no way dilute some of the wonderful work later Ghibli has put out. I don't think we'll see eye to eye on this.
At least we can all agree goro miyazaki is very bad
 

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[Edit: I'll actually just leave this one in the state it was in when it accidentally posted early. With any luck, I'll get to that stuff before too long]

can I just say how much I appreciate Werner Herzog's appearance in season 1 of The Mandalorian? He's just so charismatic and entertaining!
You most certainly can. His performance was absolutely a highlight there, filled with a gravitas. He would like to see the baby, whereas we would like to see The Client.
I'd actually like to get the action figure of him. I saw it online, but I don't recall how much it costs. Is it affordable, or are they really trying to gouge the niche this falls into?
It retails for around $25.00 USD but might sometimes be found cheaper if you are willing to make your soul a sunless space.
 
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