That Citizen Kane article is great. I haven't read that in years but it still echoes (if you'll excuse the pun) true. I like the line where he mentions Prime is still relevant "today", 7 years ago. It's particularly striking cause we're sitting here, actually today, almost 20 years later, and it's even more true now.It can't be stressed enough. Nintendo truly does love releasing remasters/remakes during anniversaries.
Anniversaries are one the easiest marketing templates.
- Xenoblade Chronicles: Definition Edition - Released during Xenoblade Chronicle 1's 10th anniversary.
- The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - Released during Skyward Sword's 10th anniversary.
- Super Mario 3D All Stars - Released during Mario's 35th anniversary.
- Advance Wars 1 + 2 - Releasing during Advance War's 20th anniversary
- Pokemon Diamond & Pearl - Releasing during Pokemon's 25th anniversary (and Diamond & Pearl's 15th anniversary)
Plus, Metroid Prime wasn't just any game. It's one of the greatest games that Nintendo has ever created. It sits at 97% on Metacritic.
Prime 1 was Metroid's Ocarina of Time moment. It would be almost insulting if Nintendo didn't acknowledge Metroid Prime's anniversary in some way.
And who can forget all the times Metroid Prime been compared to Citizen Kane...
IGN - Citizen Kane: Is Metroid Prime Our Citizen Kane?
Kotaku - The Man Who Never Wanted To Make The 'Citizen Kane' for Games
Have they been using Advance Wars 20th anniversary as part of the marketing? Wouldn’t be shocked at all if they tweeted it out at some point.It can't be stressed enough. Nintendo truly does love releasing remasters/remakes during anniversaries.
Anniversaries are one the easiest marketing templates.
- Xenoblade Chronicles: Definition Edition - Released during Xenoblade Chronicle 1's 10th anniversary.
- The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - Released during Skyward Sword's 10th anniversary.
- Super Mario 3D All Stars - Released during Mario's 35th anniversary.
- Advance Wars 1 + 2 - Releasing during Advance War's 20th anniversary
- Pokemon Diamond & Pearl - Releasing during Pokemon's 25th anniversary (and Diamond & Pearl's 15th anniversary)
Plus, Metroid Prime wasn't just any game. It's one of the greatest games that Nintendo has ever created. It sits at 97% on Metacritic.
Prime 1 was Metroid's Ocarina of Time moment. It would be almost insulting if Nintendo didn't acknowledge Metroid Prime's anniversary in some way.
And who can forget all the times Metroid Prime been compared to Citizen Kane...
IGN - Citizen Kane: Is Metroid Prime Our Citizen Kane?
Kotaku - The Man Who Never Wanted To Make The 'Citizen Kane' for Games
Yeah it’s easy to see how they miss some, I mean you can come up with an anniversary for every month of every year. I guess it just depends partially on if said anniversary lines up nicely with a series they want to revive or remaster, and then they take action.Depending on what Fire Emblem game IntSys decided to remake they're either going to miss the 30th anniversary of Genealogy of the Holy War by one year (understandable, probably planned for this year and delayed like a lot of their 2022 lineup) or accidentially stumble into the perfect release timing for Binding Blade's 20th.
Next year just happens to be Wind Waker's 20th as well, so what better time to pull that one out of their Wii U port reserves.
Anniversaries are clearly super important... until they aren't; poor DK's 40th went by with nothing to show for it yet.
Nah. Finding work for people to do is sometimes one of the hardest problems for a director to tackle. At least from what I've read. I work in an adjacent field to game development, and personally had experience where the company had me working on a bogus project for 6 months, just cause they knew they'd need us later.have a tough time buying that Nintendo would sic Retro onto Metroid Prime remake-master and leave their designers twiddling their thumbs for a while (in the Belmont post), doesn't seem very efficient
To be honest, gamers always have seemed to care way more about the distinction than publishersNo clue. I wish I had a good answer to give you.
At the end of the day, Retro Studios put a lot of work into it. In my opinion, the branding of "remake" or "remaster" doesn't matter.
Example: On Activision's website, they talk about Crash Bandicoot N'sane Trilogy being "fully-remastered". When obviously the game's assets and engine were re-made from top to bottom.
I feel that in specific cases like Crash and Spyro the marketing team figured that calling them "remasters" would appeal most to the target audience (long-time fans of the original PS1 versions); it implies that the core of the game will be the same and most of the changes will be aesthetic. "Remake" isn't as assuring of a term, because that could entail major changes to the games they love.To be honest, gamers always have seemed to care way more about the distinction than publishers
I can’t remember which, but i definitely remember the free aim on the Wii trilogy definitely trivializing some bosses in Prime 1 and 2. Even twin sticks probably would, but oh wellWe're definitely getting twin stick controls, as an option at least. Making the old-school controls the default or only option will be a source of "WTF" for a lot of people. Gyro will probably be an option as well, although with how not precision focused the game is, it wouldn't make too much of a difference.
I've never been this excited about a year in gaming this far ahead of the actual year arriving lol. Like, it's unbelievable how much we ALREADY have to look forward to in 2022 without even being in 2022 or having had a single 2022 presentation yet.I can’t contain my excitement with a Metroid Prime remake/remaster and everything else coming in 2022.
Speculating on announcement timing, I think The Game Awards would be a perfect venue for it, but something also tells me they want to give Dread some time to breathe this holiday. Depending on how close they want to stick to its anniversary date we may have to wait a while, as Metroid Prime was released in November.
Either way, I'm super stoked about it and I can't wait to see it.
Honestly, if this year delivers on most of what is expected, it will give 2017 a run for its money. If an Odyssey follow up or 3D DK also arrive, it's pretty much going to be the best year ever for me. Almost seems too good to be true.I've never been this excited about a year in gaming this far ahead of the actual year arriving lol. Like, it's unbelievable how much we ALREADY have to look forward to in 2022 without even being in 2022 or having had a single 2022 presentation yet.
- BOTW 2
- MP1 remakester
- Pokemon Legends: Arceus
- Splatoon 3
- Xenoblade Chronicles 3
- 3D Kirby
- Bayonetta 3
- Triangle Strategy
- N64 NSO additions
- GB/GBC/GBA on Switch?
- Possible hardware revision?
- Possible DK?
- Possible Mario?
- Possible Zelda ports?
I've been thinking the same, but in part because I believe they want to show something from MP4 in-engine before revealing Prime 1 if at all possible. They've been very, very careful about how they're presenting their care for the Metroid IP since E3 2017, and I don't think they want to have to do the same "we're working very hard on MP4" song and dance again.It's way, way more likely to release during the second half of 2022. So I highly doubt it will appear at The Game Awards.
You said it perfectly: They will want Dread to breath this holiday.
I could see them announcing it sometime between June and September. (3D All Stars was announced + released in September).
TGA would be the absolute earliest, but I'd expect it closer to E3 -- to limit the gap between announcement and release.Speculating on announcement timing, I think The Game Awards would be a perfect venue for it, but something also tells me they want to give Dread some time to breathe this holiday. Depending on how close they want to stick to its anniversary date we may have to wait a while, as Metroid Prime was released in November.
Either way, I'm super stoked about it and I can't wait to see it.
Echoes would probably need a rethink for the Sky Temple Key hunt, as that's a genuine pace-killer, but for Prime's Artifacts, I'd imagine they'd leave them untouched. You can pick up quite a few as you go through the game, especially considering the game has a few mandatory backtracking sections that give you an opportunity to grab some of em. The main thing that I would change would be to have all the hints available from the first time you visit the Artifact Temple, so you don't have to constantly come back to get them all.I wonder if they’ll be able to do anything for the ending collection or warping from save spots.
It's way, way more likely to release during the second half of 2022. So I highly doubt it will appear at The Game Awards.
You said it perfectly: They will want Dread to breath this holiday.
I could see them announcing it sometime between June and September. (3D All Stars was announced + released in September).
Do people think another mainline game is coming in 2022 after BDSP and Legends? Feel like they're more likely to have an extended break between installments, like the two years between ORAS and SuMo.Likely Pokémon something
Do people think another mainline game is coming in 2022 after BDSP and Legends? Feel like they're more likely to have an extended break between installments, like the two years between ORAS and SuMo.
Well I'm definitely excited, my one fear is that I get stuck in the same place again... (I don't recall where exactly but there was this fight pretty far along with these mostly invisible whatevers where no matter how many times and what I did, I kept failing, and none of the walkthrough videos helped at the time)It's a remaster that approaches remake territory -- essentially, they are redoing assets but the core may remain untouched.
As mentioned in the thread, Nintendo views it as a remaster. Ultimately, the terminology don't matter much. The project is ambitious & one Prime fans should be excited for come 2022.
Oh snap! Welcome, Nate!TGA would be the absolute earliest, but I'd expect it closer to E3 -- to limit the gap between announcement and release.
Prime's reputation is known & its legacy strong.
I just know his and K. Rool's time is coming.Anniversaries are clearly super important... until they aren't; poor DK's 40th went by with nothing to show for it yet.
Yeah 2022 is like 2017 in that regard. Zelda will be the most important one for me but MP1 remaster is a close second if you ask me. I hope it won't take too long to remaster 2 and 3 as well.I've never been this excited about a year in gaming this far ahead of the actual year arriving lol. Like, it's unbelievable how much we ALREADY have to look forward to in 2022 without even being in 2022 or having had a single 2022 presentation yet.
- BOTW 2
- MP1 remakester
- Pokemon Legends: Arceus
- Splatoon 3
- Xenoblade Chronicles 3
- 3D Kirby
- Bayonetta 3
- Triangle Strategy
- N64 NSO additions
- GB/GBC/GBA on Switch?
- Possible hardware revision?
- Possible DK?
- Possible Mario?
- Possible Zelda ports?
Timeline based on information I know.
- It's currently unknown whether Nintendo scrapped/cancelled future plans for remasters/remakes of Prime sequels.
- No journalist/insider seems able to get a clear, straight answer on Nintendo's plans for Prime 2 and Prime 3.
- An insider named Belmont (on Resetera) seems convinced plans for Prime 2 and 3 were scrapped. (Source)