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Discussion ResetEra has been sold to M.O.B.A networks

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It's very difficult at times to feel sorry for the site staff when they constantly try to cover for each other's fuck-ups and refuse to take any accountability. It doesn't help that roles like this inevitably get
Agreed, and we have admin like nepenthe who would actively troll users but use their position to cover for themselves or other admin/mods and either ban the user being trolled or just bully them off the site. It was a truly repugnant system. I really have no idea how moderators on that site were chosen it seems people chose based on who they liked to chat with rather than a suitable personality for the job.
 
I understand this site began out of frustration with Era, but I think it'd be best if we didn't use this thread to take shots at current and former Era staff. It doesn't sit well with me.

I give @bellydrum a lot of credit. He's done an excellent job with bringing people over here.

I'm seeing people here that I haven't seen in 3-4 years.
He has done a great job, but a surprising amount of people were still connected via the Nintendo Pipeline Discord server (formerly NintendoERA) and jumped at the chance for a new forum. I'm honestly not sure how well we get off the ground without that group.
Most former launch admins (Me, Zhuge, Nibel, Shinobi, Nicole)
Seeing these names lined up brings me back. Early 2018 was probably my favorite, uh, era of Era.

yall shouldnt have agreed to those terms to be honest but its irrelevant now, we should move on and yeah, im done with the thread.
Those terms aren't uncommon for community-run boards, but Era was uniquely profitable which put it in an interesting spot.

Remembering the whirlwind of a week between Gaf's fall and Era's start, as well as my own experience contributing to this site's founding, it's hard for me to judge anyone's decision-making in that position.
 
It's very difficult at times to feel sorry for the site staff when they constantly try to cover for each other's fuck-ups and refuse to take any accountability. It doesn't help that roles like this inevitably get cliquey.
Exactly this bahaviour. Because of this and how they handled the whole SalesERA debacle was the reason why I compared it how police are covering each others fuck-ups and refuse to take accountability (and ultimately got banned). Plus the escalation factor.
I really hope this place and Install Base won't repeat these mistakes
 
Exactly this bahaviour. Because of this and how they handled the whole SalesERA debacle was the reason why I compared it how police are covering each others fuck-ups and refuse to take accountability (and ultimately got banned). Plus the escalation factor.
I really hope this place and Install Base won't repeat these mistakes
I am not surprised but still disappointed that they would ban you for that instead of recognizing that yeah they are acting in a very similar way.
 
I am not surprised but still disappointed that they would ban you for that instead of recognizing that yeah they are acting in a very similar way.
Not wanna go much into detail and derail this thread, but they thought it was a comparison made in bad faith, because of how the police oppresses minorities
and actually harms/kills people. Which was never my point in the first place, only how they caused problems and those people could emain mods etc.
 
Sold to a guy that ran a bunch of scam casino sites, lol

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjornmannerqvist?trk=org-employees
Oof
 
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Exactly this bahaviour. Because of this and how they handled the whole SalesERA debacle was the reason why I compared it how police are covering each others fuck-ups and refuse to take accountability (and ultimately got banned). Plus the escalation factor.
I really hope this place and Install Base won't repeat these mistakes
Honestly, that comparison isn't really the best and there was another way of phrasing it. Especially since I'm aware of some of the racist abuse sent their way.

But I'll leave it there, as it's getting off-topic.
 
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Seeing how the mods and admins on Era are literally shitting on all users that were, in-fairness, trying to look out for them being taken advantage of, and then snapping back at them "But you were treating us like the bad guys moments ago, so why you care?" attitude and continuing to taunt them up until the recent pages, is beyond infuriating. Like, I've been really critical of the modding since how they not only pushed back against us trying to discuss ableism and accessibility, but also banning people who reported ableism on the board.

But not wanting to see people being taken advantage of and also being critical of how they handled everything can both co-exist in the same conversation. And yet, they even blew any possible good will with that, with how they chose to act in the announcement thread.

They're even linking and now asking people to donate to their paypal, ko-fi, and the like, if they want to see them paid instead of, you know, REASONABLY demanding being properly paid from the newer ownership and, arguably, Cerium.

If there was ANY possibility of me ever coming back, it's gone after how the Admin and Mods are just shitting on all users. They're also actively completely ignoring the exodus of users which, by the way, they caused, and continue to not really acknowledge, other than saying that "we were mean to them and called them cops" and crap. They literally made a community unsafe for minorities, the disabled, and among others and continue to do so by ignoring issues and antagonize users in that thread.

Beyond infuriating.

I'm just done.
 
At this point, i just hope some communities like Formula 1 OT and the SpaceX one move over here and i'll just ask for my account to be deleted
 
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Going by my experience, this is the end of Era.

Story time! About one decade and half ago, i was very active in a really popular spanish forum, It wasn't the best (admins had a clear bias and trolling was encouraged) but It was fun and there wasn't a clear political bias.

I left it for unrelated reasons, and one day i read on Twitter It had been bought by the far right media "El Español". I decided to log back in and check the place.

It was a fucking shitshow, not even the shadow of its formar self.

I can see Era going down the same path, and it saddens me, i liked that place despite how bad moderation was.
Would you say the forum was completely Vandalized?

Just joking. I sadly know at least one person that actually massively slanted himself to the far right after staying there. Very sad story.
 
Seeing how the mods and admins on Era are literally shitting on all users that were, in-fairness, trying to look out for them being taken advantage of, and then snapping back at them "But you were treating us like the bad guys moments ago, so why you care?" attitude and continuing to taunt them up until the recent pages, is beyond infuriating. Like, I've been really critical of the modding since how they not only pushed back against us trying to discuss ableism and accessibility, but also banning people who reported ableism on the board.

But not wanting to see people being taken advantage of and also being critical of how they handled everything can both co-exist in the same conversation. And yet, they even blew any possible good will with that, with how they chose to act in the announcement thread.

They're even linking and now asking people to donate to their paypal, ko-fi, and the like, if they want to see them paid instead of, you know, REASONABLY demanding being properly paid from the newer ownership and, arguably, Cerium.

If there was ANY possibility of me ever coming back, it's gone after how the Admin and Mods are just shitting on all users. They're also actively completely ignoring the exodus of users which, by the way, they caused, and continue to not really acknowledge, other than saying that "we were mean to them and called them cops" and crap. They literally made a community unsafe for minorities, the disabled, and among others and continue to do so by ignoring issues and antagonize users in that thread.

Beyond infuriating.

I'm just done.
I'm kinda curious as to how the new owners square driving engagement with the current moderation style of banning dissent and shrugging at mass exoduses from the site. I can see the mods being leant on to reel it in, or just replaced but I imagine bigotry will be much more acceptable too. Looking at Era's new family, they are keeping some... interesting company.
 
I'm kinda curious as to how the new owners square driving engagement with the current moderation style of banning dissent and shrugging at mass exoduses from the site. I can see the mods being leant on to reel it in, or just replaced but I imagine bigotry will be much more acceptable too. Looking at Era's new family, they are keeping some... interesting company.
I'm imagining most of the abusive and trolling mods will be removed, the more quiet and accepting one's will stay and new more bigoted ones will join.
 
I'm imagining most of the abusive and trolling mods will be removed, the more quiet and accepting one's will stay and new more bigoted ones will join.
Yes it seems that's the trajectory things will take judging by the other website that are hosted by the new ownership.
It's the shame though as Era has helped me throughout the whole pandemic thing..(not that it's over ) but yeah I used to lurk my favourites OT and post from time to time when I had COVID...it made the whole thing is little bit bearable.
 
So much of this is an "if I speak..." situation lol. I have typed so much up about all this and some of the wild shit being said in that thread (including people who still seemingly refuse to believe that minorities who left actually saw harm or had legitimate reason to leave) but I made my peace some time ago and I don't need that sort of energy in my life.

As others have said, message boards foster specific kinds of communities and communication that is much less common these days. I'm grateful for this place, and I hope others who now feel uprooted are able to rekindle that feeling somewhere.
 
So much of this is an "if I speak..." situation lol. I have typed so much up about all this and some of the wild shit being said in that thread (including people who still seemingly refuse to believe that minorities who left actually saw harm or had legitimate reason to leave) but I made my peace some time ago and I don't need that sort of energy in my life.

As others have said, message boards foster specific kinds of communities and communication that is much less common these days. I'm grateful for this place, and I hope others who now feel uprooted are able to rekindle that feeling somewhere.
I just hope people here never feel afraid to share their thoughts like many did and still do on Era. A message board should not feel like navigating a field of landmines, the fact so many posts are identified as ban traps should speak to the general atmosphere. Hoping it's a lot better here.
 
Just want to say I'm really glad this place exists and the tone of the forum is a fun place to be. Never felt that way at ERA. Ever.
 
So much of this is an "if I speak..." situation lol. I have typed so much up about all this and some of the wild shit being said in that thread (including people who still seemingly refuse to believe that minorities who left actually saw harm or had legitimate reason to leave) but I made my peace some time ago and I don't need that sort of energy in my life.

As others have said, message boards foster specific kinds of communities and communication that is much less common these days. I'm grateful for this place, and I hope others who now feel uprooted are able to rekindle that feeling somewhere.
that is one of the thing that left me speechless , users saying well if XboxEra ,PCEra, NintendoEra, SalesEra etc.. left is because they just wanted to be buddy buddy in their own bubble . I mean how much more some people can be tone deaf
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It doesn't surprise that Cerium would sell up to be honest. Setting aside any personal reasons(like health) the peak for the site has probably passed and there have been fundamental issues with how the site runs that only show signs of getting worse.

I'd be extremely surprised if the new owner keeps their word about not interfering because it's a lot of money they need to recoup.
 
The problems with era always came to its moderation practices, unclear stances to the rules, users baiting people into bans, moderators only solution to solve problems is to simply ban people, people afraid of talking about certain points because they are uninformed, people who are angry at the uninformed and want them to inform themselves because they don't have the energy to explain something, and claiming the forum floor for discussion is open to all political spectrums, only to alienate and ban people who fall anything short below far left ideology. Never allowing a timespan for people to grow, make mistakes and learn. But instead be remembered for only their mistakes and can never view the growth until they banned or left the site for good.

A large overreaching gaming forum is viable. But people come into forums with so much of their own personal baggage and entricities that brings both the good and the bad.

If you are fostering your staff, foster your members like they are kids growing and learning how to properly act and treat others on the site. You set the rules and tone. It's up to us to follow.
I don't know how much I can agree that forum moderators have any sort of responsibility to act as impartial parents to the members. There is little to be gained from a staff that's mentally exhausted from trying to accommodate bad faith actors who make the place worse for everyone, all in the name of fairness.

I was never a member of Era so it's hard for me to say what their moderation was like, but do be cautious of going too far in the other direction. I made many mistakes as an admin and the biggest one was having too lax moderation and banning almost nobody. This leads to your community turning into a dump where toxic people suck up all the air and drive out everyone else.
 
ERA was "left on social issues" but was otherwise centrist as fuck even by American standards. PoliERA was openly hostile to even social democracy never mind actual far left ideologies like anarchism and communism.
Era wasn't even consistently left on social issues. I mean for example, one of the bigger catalysts that caused AsianEra to split was a mod advocating for the execution of a groomed minor. TransEra also certainly didn't feel safe on the site.

Era's general social ideology also tended to hit a wall wherever it intersected with economic issues. Topics like workplace crunch, supporting problematic creators (if I never have to read "separate the art from the artist" again, it'll be too soon), etc all eventuated in moderate liberal thread direction at best.
 
I don't know how much I can agree that forum moderators have any sort of responsibility to act as impartial parents to the members. There is little to be gained from a staff that's mentally exhausted from trying to accommodate bad faith actors who make the place worse for everyone, all in the name of fairness.

I was never a member of Era so it's hard for me to say what their moderation was like, but do be cautious of going too far in the other direction. I made many mistakes as an admin and the biggest one was having too lax moderation and banning almost nobody. This leads to your community turning into a dump where toxic people suck up all the air and drive out everyone else.
I just hope mods here lead by example
 
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Does the timing suggests that the exoduses in the last year or so, affected the traffic of the site?
It has been documented that trolling, which became abundant in the site, increases user engagement, but it seemed that in this case it actually started to drive users away.
Maybe it drives users away but most of them don’t delete their accounts. So the buyer is paying for “the big forum with a lot of users”
 
Good for Cerium I guess?
Sitting in his ass and cashing out, while others did the job of funneling everyone over and Mods are doing shit for free.
And yes, I think it is stupid on the Mods side to not to be paid while knowing that the site made 700k a year

Honestly, can't blame him for the hustle, pretty genius if you think about it. Not surprising either as I always assumed money was one of the reasons why Era was founded. Making 4.5 mil in a couple of years without all that much hard work or involvement, well played.

Didn't think Era was worth that much, especially at this point lol.
 
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Era wasn't even consistently left on social issues.

Animal rights was also a subject where Era failed miserably. Advocating for the extinction of certain dog species (not kidding with this one, sadly) and always brushing off animal violence in games.

It was left leaning only for certain issues, to the point it felt more performative than anything.

Let's not forget their deficient handling of mental health issues either.
 
Animal rights was also a subject where Era failed miserably. Advocating for the extinction of certain dog species (not kidding with this one, sadly) and always brushing off animal violence in games.

It was left leaning only for certain issues, to the point it felt more performative than anything.

Let's not forget their deficient handling of mental health issues either.
That Etika thread was really bad
 
This forum has really been made at the right time.
I agree, however I wish it was for all gaming and not just Nintendo as I mainly play on Xbox. I think there was a real opportunity there to get a ton more members. It's all good tho, I'll probably be more into Nintendo when Switch 2 comes out.
 
Animal rights was also a subject where Era failed miserably. Advocating for the extinction of certain dog species (not kidding with this one, sadly) and always brushing off animal violence in games.

It was left leaning only for certain issues, to the point it felt more performative than anything.

Let's not forget their deficient handling of mental health issues either.
homeless discussion was pretty bad too and depressing to read
 
I'm kinda curious as to how the new owners square driving engagement with the current moderation style of banning dissent and shrugging at mass exoduses from the site. I can see the mods being leant on to reel it in, or just replaced but I imagine bigotry will be much more acceptable too. Looking at Era's new family, they are keeping some... interesting company.

Honestly this thread kinda shows the incredible difficult they have as mods:

You have some users who think they are banning too much (I think we can all point to countless weird examples of ban, animal rights people in the whaling threads being banned for whatboutism) other users who think they are not being harsh enough on the bans and leave the site because of that.

and I don`t envy them at all.
 
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I agree, however I wish it was for all gaming and not just Nintendo as I mainly play on Xbox. I think there was a real opportunity there to get a ton more members. It's all good tho, I'll probably be more into Nintendo when Switch 2 comes out.
Depending on how sustainably Famiboards grow over time, I think forming an alliance between gaming forums with affiliated links to each other would be a good way to accommodate users who wants to engage on multiple platforms and reduce system warring.
 
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