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Discussion ResetEra has been sold to M.O.B.A networks

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While I generally have massive sympathies for the era staff- and can even empathize for how they have to be hardliners in some regards- I'll never figure out how exactly they work to say the least, and I think commenting on specific mod activity off-site is a good way to start putting up some residency in your head for them to live there rent-free. My first post said I don't wanna see that shadow loom over anybody or any forum, and that's on me for making a second post. I gotta dip out of this thread and leave it from here on out, that's how much I want to avoid those theatrics.
 
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Caviar said:
Weird shit, man. I really should stop being surprised at how openly hostile the staff is towards the community on Era, but I never am.
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That is what stuck out to me the most. Back on GAF there were a couple of mods that were really angry at posters, but on Era it seemed even worse. You had mods, ex-mods, admins straight up going into "I don't give a fuck" mode way too much. I remember them not wanting to create the community feedback thread and when people pushed, it got stuck into a hole where if you never knew about it, you most probably wouldn't even know it existed.
 
props to cerium, dude hustled like crazy. lol @ the bootlicking era mods who love doing a thankless stressful job for free
 
Sold to a guy that ran a bunch of scam casino sites, lol

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjornmannerqvist?trk=org-employees
 
xsquiddox said:
Was very weird a single dude bought up all other shares and became sole owner. It was hella fishy.

No wonder Nibel left and others quite early.
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This might be a good opportunity for me to clarify something.

Most former launch admins (Me, Zhuge, Nibel, Shinobi, Nicole) did not have any shares or ownership in Resetera. We weren't paid a cent. We definitely worked for free. That's one (of many) reasons we all left early.

Only the system administrators (Era's tech team) had shares/ownership in the company. By late 2018, the tech team sold their shares to Cerium and he became the sole owner.
 
It's kind of sad. Era have its issues but its still one of the better forums on the Internet to talk about games and others matters. It's especially sad to see the communities splitting off to different sites and discord etc. It's really hard to follow if you are a causal fan of another platform/ part of another community and have to choose where you visit or post more often.
 
Emily Rogers said:
This might be a good opportunity for me to clarify something.

Most former launch admins (Me, Zhuge, Nibel, Shinobi, Nicole) did not have any shares or ownership in Resetera. We weren't paid a cent. We definitely worked for free. That's why we all left early.

Only the system administrators (Era's tech team) had shares/ownership in the company. By late 2018, the tech team sold their shares to Cerium and he became the sole owner.
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Thank you for the clarification, i appreciate it and my apologies if it came over rude. Yh dw i had a feeling you and the others didn't have much to do with it. All good honest peeps!
 
Emily Rogers said:
This might be a good opportunity for me to clarify something.

Most former launch admins (Me, Zhuge, Nibel, Shinobi, Nicole) did not have any shares or ownership in Resetera. We weren't paid a cent. We definitely worked for free. That's one (of many) reasons we all left early.

Only the system administrators (Era's tech team) had shares/ownership in the company. By late 2018, the tech team sold their shares to Cerium and he became the sole owner.
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Wow. Just insane reading about this.
 
Emily Rogers said:
This might be a good opportunity for me to clarify something.

Most former launch admins (Me, Zhuge, Nibel, Shinobi, Nicole) did not have any shares or ownership in Resetera. We weren't paid a cent. We definitely worked for free. That's one (of many) reasons we all left early.

Only the system administrators (Era's tech team) had shares/ownership in the company. By late 2018, the tech team sold their shares to Cerium and he became the sole owner.
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yall shouldnt have agreed to those terms to be honest but its irrelevant now, we should move on and yeah, im done with the thread.
 
Emily Rogers said:
This might be a good opportunity for me to clarify something.

Most former launch admins (Me, Zhuge, Nibel, Shinobi, Nicole) did not have any shares or ownership in Resetera. We weren't paid a cent. We definitely worked for free. That's one (of many) reasons we all left early.

Only the system administrators (Era's tech team) had shares/ownership in the company. By late 2018, the tech team sold their shares to Cerium and he became the sole owner.
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This just makes me sad thinking about what Era could have been; a positive and inclusive community where industry folks and enthusiasts alike could come together and have meaningful conversations.

Ultimately, perhaps a large overarching gaming forum just isn't viable. I'm hoping I can at least help foster something positive here at Famiboards with the staff.
 
Emily Rogers said:
This might be a good opportunity for me to clarify something.

Most former launch admins (Me, Zhuge, Nibel, Shinobi, Nicole) did not have any shares or ownership in Resetera. We weren't paid a cent. We definitely worked for free. That's one (of many) reasons we all left early.

Only the system administrators (Era's tech team) had shares/ownership in the company. By late 2018, the tech team sold their shares to Cerium and he became the sole owner.
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That's awful :(
 
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Dopply said:
This just makes me sad thinking about what Era could have been; a positive and inclusive community where industry folks and enthusiasts alike could come together and have meaningful conversations.

Ultimately, perhaps a large overarching gaming forum just isn't viable. I'm hoping I can at least help foster something positive here at Famiboards with the staff.
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The problems with era always came to its moderation practices, unclear stances to the rules, users baiting people into bans, moderators only solution to solve problems is to simply ban people, people afraid of talking about certain points because they are uninformed, people who are angry at the uninformed and want them to inform themselves because they don't have the energy to explain something, and claiming the forum floor for discussion is open to all political spectrums, only to alienate and ban people who fall anything short below far left ideology. Never allowing a timespan for people to grow, make mistakes and learn. But instead be remembered for only their mistakes and can never view the growth until they banned or left the site for good.

A large overreaching gaming forum is viable. But people come into forums with so much of their own personal baggage and entricities that brings both the good and the bad.

If you are fostering your staff, foster your members like they are kids growing and learning how to properly act and treat others on the site. You set the rules and tone. It's up to us to follow.
 
Good for Cerium I guess?
Sitting in his ass and cashing out, while others did the job of funneling everyone over and Mods are doing shit for free.
And yes, I think it is stupid on the Mods side to not to be paid while knowing that the site made 700k a year
 
The announcement thread there is just so so wild to me. I can respect the hustle but that's so slimy stuff there imo, and the mod team being so positive feels like coping when we know where this will go. It just sucks to see after all the controversy and exoduses that have been hitting.
 
Illucio said:
claiming the forum floor for discussion is open to all political spectrums, only to alienate and ban people who fall anything short below far left ideology.
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Imagine thinking the problem with Era is that it is ā€œtoo far leftā€ šŸ¤£
 
That ownership announcement thread is a mess... It all feels like a point of no return was crossed ...
End of an Era for sure
 
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Fuck Cerium I never seen him post at all. I have no beef with the rest of Era though and will stick around and see where the community goes.
 
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A forum like that just isn't the same if it's not community driven. It's more of a product now which it seemingly already was apparently.

I never liked GAF either. Evilore could have done the same when he didn't. I think he mentioned this in that one documentary made by gametrailers at the time.

These places are made by the communty without us there's nothing. All the members were easy to migrate from Gaf to Era. Why wouldn't they do that again now? It would make Era the worst purchase of the century.

Also sucks none of the mods got payed. Such ungratefulness
 
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crazy the mods werent paid when the site was so valuable.

transparency wise, i was annoyed that i had never heard about xbox era. it couldve been an opportunity for them to lift up other communities. i was lucky i was already in the nintendo discord or i likely wouldve missed this place too.

corporate buyouts can be good, especially if it'll help running the site, but if the site is mostly ran by volunteers it sounds like there will be some inevitable changes.

famiboards fam couldnt have come at a better time
 
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I think all I want seeing this is to be able to scrub my info from Era. I lurked for a couple of years before joining once the pandemic started to tick up last year, so I havenā€™t been on the site for long, but it just feels unacceptable to treat the communities that the site housed this way.
 
TaySan said:
This was the ā€œbest pickā€ according to Cerium too.
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Yeah that line in Cerium post was total b.s like everything else . Dude sat back, let other people do the job , cashed in then came up with a lame post to justify his action ... Total con job if you ask me .
and you have users over there still trying to defend and rationalize that ...
 
"Best pick"? The new guy in charge is essentially a venture capitalist just buying up a bunch of places with growth potential or other means of turning a profit like good SEO (which means more and better data to sell). I'd bet on the latter since Era's had stagnant and sometimes negative growth for a long time now despite some solid SEO. I guess the former is possible if they just pump the place full of extremely obtrusive ads.
 
xsquiddox said:
... Was very weird a single dude bought up all other shares and became sole owner. It was hella fishy. ....

Also feel bad that the mods defend him to heaven. Read through the majority of the threat and..... yh

Also kinda crazy a so called progressive forum does the most capilatism thing possible.
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I mean this... With how incredibly progressive the site is.

It`s feels different from the socialist twitch people Kotaku - Socialist Streamer Bought A House , because the product/ producer of goods is the streamer in that case.

I`ll give him time, but it`s weird that at this point he doesn`t even seem to care about the optics.

Someway to give back to the community and minorities that helped make resetera what it is.
Normally someone with PR advice would at least have him use a minimal amount of that money to set-up a or foundation or give to a charity etc.
 
Anatole said:
I think all I want seeing this is to be able to scrub my info from Era. I lurked for a couple of years before joining once the pandemic started to tick up last year, so I havenā€™t been on the site for long, but it just feels unacceptable to treat the communities that the site housed this way.
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I asked that over there, but outside of going in and manually changing posts or account closure, I'm going to presume all the data was already mined from the site.
 
Mazzle said:
Good for Cerium I guess?
Sitting in his ass and cashing out, while others did the job of funneling everyone over and Mods are doing shit for free.
And yes, I think it is stupid on the Mods side to not to be paid while knowing that the site made 700k a year
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I wonder if they even knew about this fact ahead of the announcement. They are probably keeping heads down in the hope the new owners keep them around. I expect sparks once and if changes come
 
Itā€™s unfair and crazy that the mods never got paid. American capitalism just sucks.
 
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https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-...ocial-justice-warriors-are-awful-people-36545


Someone on era posted this , if this is the type of websites the new ownership host then good luck to era
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Going by my experience, this is the end of Era.

Story time! About one decade and half ago, i was very active in a really popular spanish forum, It wasn't the best (admins had a clear bias and trolling was encouraged) but It was fun and there wasn't a clear political bias.

I left it for unrelated reasons, and one day i read on Twitter It had been bought by the far right media "El EspaƱol". I decided to log back in and check the place.

It was a fucking shitshow, not even the shadow of its formar self.

I can see Era going down the same path, and it saddens me, i liked that place despite how bad moderation was.
 
SlipperyFishes said:
I wonder if they even knew about this fact ahead of the announcement. They are probably keeping heads down in the hope the new owners keep them around. I expect sparks once and if changes come
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Some said in the thread that they knew, but as you said: Who knew really and who is keeping their heads down?
I'd have guessed that the site would make good money, since we all knew that in the hey days of GAF, Evilore made huuuuge money. So why shouldn't Era? But maybe Cerium had his minions in the mod ranks to convince everyone, that this is for the greater good and nobody should be paid, while getting paid.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit
 
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As someone who was on a economy/business focused high school (Wirtschaftsgymnasium), i can respect the hustle of Cerium.
Being honest, i wouldn't think very long if someone offered me 4.5 million bucks for something i own.

But i also understand how shitty this is given it was once supposed to be a community-driven forum.

As for mods / admins not getting paid, it's really shit when you read the numbers. But ultimately it's also a bit on their own if they didn't ask for some payment.

The whole situation is, just like with the mod problems surrounding Sales Era and the Nintendo community, a result of a lack of transparency.

Transparency is important, and in anything regarding the internet, it's even moreso due to the anonymous nature of the web.
 
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Reinhard Schneider said:
Going by my experience, this is the end of Era.

Story time! About one decade and half ago, i was very active in a really popular spanish forum, It wasn't the best (admins had a clear bias and trolling was encouraged) but It was fun and there wasn't a clear political bias.

I left it for unrelated reasons, and one day i read on Twitter It had been bought by the far right media "El EspaƱol". I decided to log back in and check the place.

It was a fucking shitshow, not even the shadow of its formar self.

I can see Era going down the same path, and it saddens me, i liked that place despite how bad moderation was.
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Itā€™s going to pain me if forums go away. I hate Discord in comparison.
 
TaySan said:
Itā€™s going to pain me if forums go away. I hate Discord in comparison.
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I feel like i'm too old for discord lol. I was so happy when famiboards was finally created because holy shit i couldn't keep up with the Discord.

I grew up with forums, individual direct messaging and small msn groups, Discord is too much for my late 30s ass.
 
TaySan said:
Itā€™s going to pain me if forums go away. I hate Discord in comparison.
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I saw my favourite forum SEGAbits going to discord and while I am still part of the community, discussions amount to a couple of sentences before they are moved on to something else. It is really a bad format for discussion ironically
 
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and claiming the forum floor for discussion is open to all political spectrums, only to alienate and ban people who fall anything short below far left ideology.
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ERA was "left on social issues" but was otherwise centrist as fuck even by American standards. PoliERA was openly hostile to even social democracy never mind actual far left ideologies like anarchism and communism.
 
The ongoing thread there about it is wild. The moderators arguing about how they made a better site and we were all ungrateful is the tone I get from it. This site was definitely made at the right time and I hope we don't take on those mods here when they eventually try to move over as we've seen the power abuses.
 
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Koyota said:
I mean this... With how incredibly progressive the site is.

It`s feels different from the socialist twitch people Kotaku - Socialist Streamer Bought A House , because the product/ producer of goods is the streamer in that case.

I`ll give him time, but it`s weird that at this point he doesn`t even seem to care about the optics.

Someway to give back to the community and minorities that helped make resetera what it is.
Normally someone with PR advice would at least have him use a minimal amount of that money to set-up a or foundation or give to a charity etc.
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Cerium bagged 4.5 million. He does not give a shit about optics or helping the community or charity or any of that shit. He is gone, gone, gone.
 
Interesting development. Not really too much I can judge about it because, as others have already said, I'm not turning down that kind of money if I'm offered it for an internet message board I own. I'm probably using at least some of it to make a good-will payment gesture to other founders though.

I hope the site largely remains unchanged. I feel there are good things and not so good things about Era, like anything. There will be good things and not so good things about this place, and InstallBase; such is nature. Look at what old-old place has become if you want a genuinely bad forum. I will keep things in perspective.
 
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Sad news.

Era had a wonderful honeymoon period and the chance to preserve and build on that spirit was lost with decisions made in that first year.

Now, under the new owners, any last hope that remained of changing course is gone.
 
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Caviar said:
Weird shit, man. I really should stop being surprised at how openly hostile the staff is towards the community on Era, but I never am.
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Yep, Morrigan outright attacking and trolling users in that post was the real WTF moment for me. Seems even when you step down as a mod on the site the clique still covers and all that. She outright called the users children which really summed up how moderation viewed the community.
 
I find it amusing that thread has probably the most mod/admin activity I've ever seen on the site (both current and former), and it's primarily just shitposting.

Anyway, telling people that a multi-million acquisition by a shady company won't change anything is incredibly naive at best, and disingenuous at worst.

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The ongoing thread there about it is wild. The moderators arguing about how they made a better site and we were all ungrateful is the tone I get from it. This site was definitely made at the right time and I hope we don't take on those mods here when they eventually try to move over as we've seen the power abuses.
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It's very difficult at times to feel sorry for the site staff when they constantly try to cover for each other's fuck-ups and refuse to take any accountability. It doesn't help that roles like this inevitably get cliquey.

I don't care whether or not the mods get paid. They knew what they were getting into from the start. It's just funny how they continually cape for some guy who barely posted there after 2019 and just made off with 4.5 million, while they did most of the actual work.
 
No wonder Era never lived up to its initial promise when it was just an investment for Cerium to cash in on.

Seeing him walk away from it with a cool 4.5 mil while the volunteer staff argue that not getting anything is good actually is hilarious. Exploitation in action but if they're so adamant they're fine with it, good luck to them. I'm not caping for the people who bullied and ran off so many communities including much of my own.

Though to be honest given the prevalence of 'you oppose exploitation yet you criticise the mods, how curious' arguments from regular users in that thread, maybe the staff are what that userbase deserves now.

I hope the staff here take notes from Era - especially their complete inability to de-escalate or show contrition for their mistakes. So much of Era's drama could have been avoided if the staff just learned to actually listen, rather than ban, condescend and ignore.
 
Yeah, if they were going to sell out, doing it at the peak of the huge fucking downhill slope they have set themselves in was the right choice.
 
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