News NSO and Expansion Pack Pricing- $49.99/Individual $79.99/Family (Annually) Available in US October 25th

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That dislike on the video from nintendos channel is wild
 

SMD

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It does seem weird. Like, let's take the UK price and say you've got 600 days in your subscription left from redeeming NSO codes. That makes the discount go brrrrr. It's then £35 - (600 * £0.04) = £6 to convert all that into... what?

Will it convert those 600 days into 730 (two years) of NSO+EP for just £6 because the Expansion Pack only works in increments of one year? Or do you only get the EP for the first 365 days at the price of £6? Or do you lose all remaining days of NSO after 365 to then get 365 days of NSO+EP for £6? It would make more sense if, because you've gone past 365 days, they would they instead use £70 as a reference point for the discount. Such a possibility isn't mentioned on the site though.

Even assuming you get no discount at all, let's say you've got two years of NSO from codes. What happens when you then pay full price for a year of NSO+EP? Do you get an extra year of NSO tacked on to those two years you have already while getting the EP for just the first year? That would mean you'll never use up those latter two years if you keep getting the EP. So my suspicion is that you’ll pay for NSO+EP and not get an extra year of NSO at all, just one year of EP at an inflated price.

It shouldn't matter, it's not like I've scammed them or anything, I bought the subscription and they have their money.
 

Pandora

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Pretty normal, the original NSO Overview is 10k like to 69k dislike
yea this is pretty much history repeating itself , we aren’t gonna pretend there’s not a lot of disdain and hate especially in the wider gaming space for nso as a whole .
 
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Jersh

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Yes but the £35 includes UK sales tax of 20%. US price doesn't IIRC

Normally UK prices are £=$ of late
This is correct, as we don't have a federal sales tax; only state-level and local-level sales tax. They are significantly lower than 20%, however, generally ranging from 6-8% combined.

to give an example for comparison, if I were to buy the individual plan, it'd cost me $53.30. I'm actually buying the family plan, which will run me $85.29.
 

Fuffelpups

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I have now read all the information on how active subs are handled. I still have 597 active days, when the new stuff goes online. I can upgrade to the new tarif and they will give me 0,05 € discount for every day. With this discount i can buy one year NSO+ for ~ 10,14 €. I think i will do that, one year for ~ 10 € is fair. But i will let this run out next year and find a family plan group next year.
 

Zen & Tonic

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Here's a false dichotomy for ya: if the options were between $50/year with Rare titles + whatever other third party games with heftier licensing fees included or $30/year without, I'd easily choose the former. Not to mention I'm permanently on the hook for Nintendo nostalgia, so they could charge even more and I'd still pay it without a second thought.

This doesn't mean I'm thrilled with the cost, but it's not so offensive to me that I'm incensed or unwilling to open my coffers. A lot of these N64 games are amongst my favorites ever, so their intrinsic value to me is not lower than the asking price.

That said, I have no interest in Genesis games, and I'd much rather just buy the AC DLC and keep it forever than rent it via this subscription. In fact, I'm sure I'll end up paying the $24.99 for the DLC despite subbing to the expansion pack, so the model surrounding that is pretty whack.

If you don't have a deep love for Nintendo's classics, I totally get finding this pricing to be out of touch. But for me, the launch lineup alone for the N64 portion of NSO is way more valuable than the entirety of free games I've gotten throughout the last four years of subbing to PS Plus.

I really can't wait for the 25th (+ Nov 5th for the AC updates). I'm going to have a straight up debaucherous time man-handling all of these crusty old classics!
 

Fuffelpups

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On the european Nintendo site they list it as 0,05 € per day, 0,09 € for a family plan. There is a link to calculate it but the link is set to the front page. They either miss placed the link or i rather think they will update it on launch, when the check out is possible.

 
On the european Nintendo site they list it as 0,05 € per day, 0,09 € for a family plan. There is a link to calculate it but the link is set to the front page. They either miss placed the link or i rather think they will update it on launch, when the check out is possible.


Where did you get those euro prices? I can only see pounds.
 

Vantell

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I am still on the fence as I am planning to play some N64 titles but also thinking of playing AC again. I guess I just update the moment I actually need it.
When you get the xpack can you also unsubscribe again from it and move back to the normal one?
 

Waluijob

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I think one of the biggest problems is Nintendo price anchored themselves with the $20 annual price for initial NSO. I get that they upgraded from free online on Wii/Wii U, but including all of the content they did at $20 annually set a standard of expectation for how much they valued their vault as a subscription. If they had charged $30/$35 for the base NSO, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now.

Think of how much they charged for games independently on their prior consoles - $5 for NES/$8 for SNES - and this does become a solid value proposition, but they screwed themselves over. I will be paying for the service, but I am less happy than I otherwise would have been. I expected $30-$40, but am grateful for the inclusion of Happy Home Paradise and hope they will also include other DLC going forward.
 

DecoReturns

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I think one of the biggest problems is Nintendo price anchored themselves with the $20 annual price for initial NSO. I get that they upgraded from free online on Wii/Wii U, but including all of the content they did at $20 annually set a standard of expectation for how much they valued their vault as a subscription. If they had charged $30/$35 for the base NSO, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now.

Think of how much they charged for games independently on their prior consoles - $5 for NES/$8 for SNES - and this does become a solid value proposition, but they screwed themselves over. I will be paying for the service, but I am less happy than I otherwise would have been. I expected $30-$40, but am grateful for the inclusion of Happy Home Paradise and hope they will also include other DLC going forward.
The 20 a year was heavily criticized even at launch cause it was extremely barebones initially. One of the their selling points were “special offers” that they didn’t reveal till month later lol.
 

Waluijob

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The 20 a year was heavily criticized even at launch cause it was extremely barebones initially. One of the their selling points were “special offers” that they didn’t reveal till month later lol.
Do not cite the deep magic to me. I was there when it was written.

I thought all of those critiques were weak and trivial and not at all based on reality. Unfortunately, the offers have been weak but the catalog they have released has grown quite strong. $20/year for a classic Nintendo game subscription is an absolute steal.
 
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Kinda want to pay it already and wait for it to activate.

Nintendo hasn't released any way to calculate the discount, right?
Doing some raw math, my subscription renews on 09/19/2022 (like a lot of people I assume). Oct 25th I will still have 329 days on the current plan. Quick division tells me I will still have ~90% left so assuming Nintendo pro-rates this to the day, I will have to pay 90% of the difference on the family plan (or ~$40.56)
 

Hidden04

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I think Nintendo should take advantage of the Expansion Pack pricing and use the money to fund single player experiences for the new tier that maybe would not make as much money as an individual shop release, like maybe a Golden Sun Remake.
 

scamander

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Well, one thing seems certain now: If you got your current NSO membership by purchasing a download code you are shit out of luck and won't get any discount when upgrading. I have still over 9 months left when the service starts, which sucks. Thank goodness I managed to organise my own family group in the meantime, so that the loss is not too bad. Imagine all the people who are subscribed for years to come? No idea, why Nintendo couldn't think of a better solution.
 
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