That is a good point. But a counter. Their output post N64 and pre DKC
Alpha Dream was tiny and didn't showcase useful skills to make acquisition worthwhile. they would have needed to quickly gain experience in making 3D games which would have slowed them down.Normally I am not a cheerleader for buying studios… but I wish they bought out Allha Dream
I would have been happy with more 2D Mario & Luigi games
From what we know, a good chunk of their devs went straight to Nintendo.That is a good point. But a counter. Their output post N64 and pre DKC
But yes, it seems normally Nintendo likes having a partner instead of buying studios usually, unless said studio is up for sale (Next Level).
Normally I am not a cheerleader for buying studios… but I wish they bought out Allha Dream
This sounds too idealistic. Nintendo can nurture them, but in the end someone else willing get them.
Which is why Nintendo should look into having an internal development team for Metroid like SPD1 before Iwata restructured it.
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Let's agree to disagree. I don't think Nintendo should play nice, when everyone else are gobbling everything.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's about playing nice. I think it's about Nintendo already having the talent and structure to be able to sustain the kind of growth others can only buy their way into organically.
My local GS opened at 10 and by the time I got there, like 10:20, all the MD copies that were not preorders were sold out.
We shall see. Will be interesting.
Adding to the new good news chain! The local game store received around 18 non-preorder copies of Dread at noon. When I went to pick up my copy, they were all seemingly gone!
I definitely think a Metroidvania can pull 5 million. It just needs to be multi platform. HK will definitely cross that threshold at some point if it hasn’t already.
I'm not sure HK will reach 5 million considering it's only a bit over 3 million.
Yeah, I think 5 million is out of reach. That being said, I don't think 3+ million is unrealistic at all and would be a massive success for the IP.
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It was at 2.8 million back in February 2019. And it has recently had huge spikes in active players on Steam, which means it is still selling.
Also a perennial fixture on the eShop charts.
I don't think you're doing your position any favours here. You're anti-consolidation but then in favour of undercutting pre-existing quality talent by effectively creating less work for them to be hired for? Those positions are totally at odds with one another.
Huh? I'm not following your argument in the slightest, because you seem to be inferring something I never said.
OK, so... you don't want consolidation. You want a developer to be free. The counter-point made was that they may not stay that way, and thus may not be able to continue to contribute, with consolidation providing assurance that their quality work would continue. So the proposed solution you gave instead of consolidation is to remove any possibility of their contribution by doing it in-house, rendering their contribution as seemingly superfluous and (by the very nature of your proposed solution) replaceable, forced to hunt down another work contract to pay bills because they're no longer necessary, despite doing what reviews indicate to be really amazing work. In lieu of consolidation, you suggest more employees hired to replace ones that could have already existed through consolidation. In the end, the corporation gets bigger regardless and the contracted studio gets shuffled off the project, forgetting the possibility that maybe they'd like to keep making what they're making and enjoy a steady paycheque from a parent company not known for ever disposing of talent.
Nice to see you make your way over, assuming you're OrbitalBeard. Did wonder why you left Era
Yeah there's a lot of important context missed when talking HKs sales numbers. Beyond the last reported numbers being 2.5 years old, nearly 2m of that 2.8m sold in the 7-8 months after the Switch version launched. Whenever we do get numbers again, presumably when Silksong resurfaces, the LTD is going to be huge. It's constantly selling on Steam and eShop, and has since been released on more platforms.
NSMBU sold 10 million. Unless you mean just the Wii U version, but comparing Switch games to other Switch games is more useful considering the Wii U had a terrible install base. Dread obviously couldn’t sell 5 million or anywhere close if it was on Wii U.
Went to Walmart as well (not rural but one of the three within 70 mile radius) and had the same experience. The lady took me right to Metroid and said they had already sold a few (this was at 7:30 and it opened at 7).
That's precisely why I used beyond 5 million which is basically you hit the mainstream and casual market. Yea I know NSMBU Deluxe sold 10 million on Switch.
Between the demand for all their old IP and for new ones from them, something's gotta give.
The Best Buy I went to the guy was like “oh yeah we got like 64 copies left”,
Pretty much. Nintendo needs more studios. It’s pretty clear after a few years of switch combining their handheld and console divisions wasnt enough. They need more help. And preferably yeah some more western studios who might have more interest in the series they haven’t touched in literal decades
224K units between France and Japan at least
Maybe he was just alluding to the mysterious Metroid 64
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Metroid doesn't quite seem to fit the tone they're going for with that--especially given as it all seems Mario-related thus far--, but I could actually see a Metroid cavern adventure working. Not quite haunted house type (Luigi's Mansion would probably have that covered), but atmospheric, with motion-triggered creatures and a laser tag mechanic.
Given reports I've seen of Dread's difficulty, perhaps they could leverage this more "core" element of the Nintendo for marketing. That said, it seems unlikely that F-Zero would be expected to reach or sustain high numbers.
Preordered the special edition and got notified it wouldn't be here until the 14th so I also downloaded it.
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