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Rumour Nikkei - Nintendo won't launch a new Switch model during the current fiscal year (UP: see threadmarks for official translation of the Nikkei article)

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Nintendo won't launch another new Switch model during the current financial year, ending in March 2023.

That's according to a new Nikkei (paywall) report, which follows up on Nintendo's latest financial results issued earlier this week.

During those results, Nintendo said it faced manufacturing issues due to component shortages. Speaking to Nikkei, Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa said that sorting these was now Nintendo's immediate goal.
 

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As i said in the other thread,
Come on Nintendo, you have a mega successful system on your hands, the time to strike with more up to date hardware is within the next year even with the chips shortage as long people know better hardware is out there it will continue to be in the conversation, please don't wait until it fizzles out like the Wii
 

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I slept through the troll version of this thread, unfortunately.

This is a bummer, especially after seeing the draw distance and resolution on Pokémon. I find it hard to believe that those rumored dev kits were real if this winds up being the case, simply due to length of time they'd be out.

If it's really a clean break, I wonder what exclusives carry it early on. Maybe that's where 3D Mario has gone.
 

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Yeah because they launch it on April 1 together with Zelda :p.
But seriously I‘m sure we‘ll see a new Nintendo console within next year.
 

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Is this speculation from Nikkei, or is it based on some kind of insider information? Hard to tell from the Eurogamer summary.
 

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Part of the reason I was hoping for a soft successor strategy is the hope that we'd avoid the usual end of life drought. Maybe next year is pretty much just Zelda and Fire Emblem until a clean break successor comes.
 

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Is this speculation from Nikkei, or is it based on some kind of insider information? Hard to tell from the Eurogamer summary.
nikkei did an interview with furukawa, and in that same article they (nikkei, not furukawa) said don't expect a new switch model in FY2023. consider it educated analysis/speculation.
 

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You're joking but I'm expecting something like this 😅
Don‘t get me wrong, I‘m expecting it too launching together with Zelda 😊. At least it would make somewhat sense. But we‘ll see. Let‘s hope that we’ll get an actual leak of production of the hardware in November - January or so.
 

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Part of the reason I was hoping for a soft successor strategy is the hope that we'd avoid the usual end of life drought. Maybe next year is pretty much just Zelda and Fire Emblem until a clean break successor comes.

Whether it's Switch Pro or Switch 2, old Switch games will probably be backwards compatible and most new games will probably be cross gen. So I don't think it matters either way.
 

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I mean with how the Switch is still selling I doubt they have to introduce a new system. Though, on the other hand. Nintendo often said X and did Y so I wouldn't be surprised if anything comes up anyway. I am just not expecting it. My current Switch is still good enough for me for what I am playing :)
 

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Whether it's Switch Pro or Switch 2, old Switch games will probably be backwards compatible and most new games will probably be cross gen. So I don't think it matters either way.
Probably, but I do expect first party releases to slow down before a hard line successor is launched. If it ends up being holiday 2023, which feels a little soon to me but I guess that's fine, then I imagine there won't be too much after Zelda. Maybe Zelda would even be delayed, but that feels unnecessary
 

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Probably, but I do expect first party releases to slow down before a hard line successor is launched. If it ends up being holiday 2023, which feels a little soon to me but I guess that's fine, then I imagine there won't be too much after Zelda. Maybe Zelda would even be delayed, but that feels unnecessary

I wouldn't expect hard line to drawn until at least a year after the new system launches. Games are expensive and difficult to make. They need a big install base to sell to. That's why you are still seeing cross gen games from Microsoft and Sony even after their consoles being on the market for nearly two years.
 

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I actually think holiday 2023 is a non-starter unless the support that ends by then ends early. I think it would be unproductive to be releasing Wave 6 of Mario Kart and Xenoblade DLC for Switch 1 while Switch 2 is on shelves.

If the timing doesn't work out, spring of 2024 makes sense to me. Holiday 2024 might be pushing it at little bit, but the Switch has been extraordinarily successful so who knows. In any case it'll be cutting Splatoon 3 off young which annoys me a bit.
 
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Count me in with the camp that doesn't really take issue with this. I'll eventually have to pick up the new hardware for access to the better version of Prime 4, I reckon, but it's not like the game will be out anytime soon.
 

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I slept through the troll version of this thread, unfortunately.

This is a bummer, especially after seeing the draw distance and resolution on Pokémon. I find it hard to believe that those rumored dev kits were real if this winds up being the case, simply due to length of time they'd be out.

If it's really a clean break, I wonder what exclusives carry it early on. Maybe that's where 3D Mario has gone.
The Switch is not a problem with Pokemon. It's more a fault of Game Freak or TPC.
 

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I actually think holiday 2023 is a non-starter unless the support that ends by then ends early. I think it would be unproductive to be releasing Wave 6 of Mario Kart and Xenoblade DLC for Switch 1 while Switch 2 is on shelves.

If the timing doesn't work out, spring of 2024 makes sense to me. Holiday 2024 might be pushing it at little bit, but the Switch has been extraordinarily successful so who knows. In any case it'll be cutting Splatoon 3 off young which annoys me a bit.
The simple and obvious solution is, regardless of what Nintendo call it or how they market it: have everything playable on the new hardware.
 

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Just my 2 cents, Nintendo rarely does more than 2-3 mainline pokemon games per console gen. Therefore I assume the next switch will come out in 23/24. Not really an insight but more of a hunch.
 

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It's a shame we didn't gee better hardware before Splatoon 3, but to my tastes I don't really care about anything past it. I already played the first 3D Kirby in a soul-crushing 30 fps and I'll play Splatoon 3 without any fancy effects or higher resolution, so I don't really need better hardware. Maybe if they start talking about some far-fetched dream games like Pikmin, Star Fox, and F-ZERO I'll start hoping again.
 

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It's very unclear where this info comes from. Seems to be implied that it's directly from Furukawa, but it's not explicit.

Anyway, this whole saga continues to be confusing and messy.
 

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The main takeaway I got from the synopsis in the OP is that hopefully this whole saga will be settled sometime next year.

Count me in with the camp that doesn't really take issue with this. I'll eventually have to pick up the new hardware for access to the better version of Prime 4, I reckon, but it's not like the game will be out anytime soon.
I still think the longer this drags out the more likelier it is we're heading for "new generation" rather than "Pro". The system hits its 6th birthday in March 2023, so they're going be starting preparations for the next system pretty soon I imagine.

Something coming after March 2023 seems more than reasonable at this point. They're not hurting for hardware sales still, and while the games are definitely pushing the existing hardware to the absolute limit there's at least actual games to be excited about.

Even if there's a sudden case of sales momentum dropping off a cliff, I think they're better positioned than with the Wii given how much smoke there's been around Dane/Drake. And let's be honest, even to a casual observer it's pretty obvious the Wii U was rushed like hell to market.
 

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Be hilarious when Nintendo announce Switch UHD, and describe it as the first second-generation Nintendo Switch model.
 

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Reminder that Nintendo vehemently denied the existence of another 3DS model in an interview (with Nikkei I believe) just a couple weeks before announcing the 3DSXL. At the time Nikkei kept reporting on the new model though. This time, they seem to either agree or not have any info?
 

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instead of buying ugly switch games for another year I've pared my purchases down to Splatoon 3 and this book

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instead of buying ugly switch games for another year I've pared my purchases down to Splatoon 3 and this book

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Great book. Hope you enjoy it! I finished it myself, a few months back. The sequel, "How To Mald", is also worthwhile. Perfect for these last few months of no Metroid Prime remaster news.
 

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Reminder that Nintendo vehemently denied the existence of another 3DS model in an interview (with Nikkei I believe) just a couple weeks before announcing the 3DSXL. At the time Nikkei kept reporting on the new model though. This time, they seem to either agree or not have any info?
It's going to remain unclear without anyone understanding the original article. My impression is that Furukawa gave fairly stock responses on the usual topics - component shortages making for a demanding picture, current focus remaining on existing models and already announced software titles, Nintendo not yet set on the timing for the launch of a new system (they first said this last November, and by 'new system', we mean 'Switch successor'*). It doesn't seem like new information, and it's perhaps Nikkei extrapolating a conclusion from the different points Furukawa makes and arriving at the conclusion that no new hardware is coming this fiscal year. As far as I can see, there's zero concrete statement from Furukawa, and even Mochizuki's tweet on the matter said it seemed unclear as to whether it's Nikkei's conclusion or Furukawa's actual comment.

Nintendo's usual stance on hardware is "we have nothing to announce at this time" or "we are focusing on the launch/supply of x product". With Switch, they've only once used an official briefing - back in early 2020 - to outright and concretely state that no new hardware was coming in the fiscal year. That was in a presentation to shareholders; I think it would be odd, but not impossible, for Furukawa to make a similar statement to a publication, even one as big as Nikkei, without having made the statement directly to shareholders.

*Nintendo's next new system could still be part of the Switch platform even if it is much more powerful, so Furukawa and Nintendo could simply be obfuscating the matter through their choice of language; 'successor' might refer to the next hardware model that isn't part of the Switch family
 

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Great book. Hope you enjoy it! I finished it myself, a few months back. The sequel, "How To Mald", is also worthwhile. Perfect for these last few months of no Metroid Prime remaster news.
ah yeah, that's a great one. just added this one to my amazon wishlist if anybody wants to pick it up for me

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So, reading both this and the closed thread, it seems that this is Nikkei Speculation-Educated guess based on a Furukawa interview where he mention the difficulties ln hardware production?
 

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So, reading both this and the closed thread, it seems that this is Nikkei Speculation-Educated guess based on a Furukawa interview where he mention the difficulties ln hardware production?
That's all I can glean from the Eurogamer article. I'm guessing that if Furukawa says sorting shortages is an immediate goal, Nikkei can interpret that as meaning new models are unlikely to be produced in this immediate fiscal year. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Certainly not as conclusive sounding as the headline might suggest, so it's weird to see the immediate 'doom' reactions. Actually, it's not weird at all, lol.
 
As i said in the other thread,
Come on Nintendo, you have a mega successful system on your hands, the time to strike with more up to date hardware is within the next year even with the chips shortage as long people know better hardware is out there it will continue to be in the conversation, please don't wait until it fizzles out like the Wii
I find it difficult to see how Switch isn’t in still in the “conversation” or fizzles out like the Wii for quite a bit longer. Current hardware numbers & software schedule continue to push Switch to dumb numbers in its 6th year. If they sort out the supply to any noticeable degree then I wouldn’t be shocked with good numbers in year 7 or 8, I’ll wait for year 8 to see what numbers are like for 9 & 10.
 

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That's all I can glean from the Eurogamer article. I'm guessing that if Furukawa says sorting shortages is an immediate goal, Nikkei can interpret that as meaning new models are unlikely to be produced in this immediate fiscal year. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Certainly not as conclusive sounding as the headline might suggest, so it's weird to see the immediate 'doom' reactions. Actually, it's not weird at all, lol.
Agreed. I, even, find the Nikkei conclusion to be logical. But is only that: a conclusion-guess-speculation.
 


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