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StarTopic Metroid Prime Remastered |ST| Prime Prophecy Fulfilled
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Aaand I'm stuck... and still loving it. It starts requiring of the player to piece the different levels together. Just got the varia suit, and already passed through the lava section without avail. Time for more scrounging! EDIT: found it! Unrelated: I love how more open Phendrana Drifts looks :O .
There's a host of tiny little changes that would've been nice (gamma and FOV sliders, a confirmation dialogue when entering an elevator to prevent accidental load screens =P etc. ), but otherwise this game feels completely effortless - which is a sign of excellence.
In a weird way I'm reminded of Skyward Sword playing this. Maybe that game, with it's Metroidvania-light elements, prepared my mind for Dread which in turn prepared me for this. Curious what @brainchild , as a fellow Skyward Sword apologist, thinks of that!
Aesthetically this reminds me of both Metroid Dread (unsurprisingly), but more interestingly it feels like Morrowind in a way. More specifically, what a proper Morrowind remake would look like. Perhaps that's due to how the remade assets respect the angularity of the original art, something that was a technical necessity at the time.
Also, for anyone hoping Prime 4 will look even better: personally I don't count on it. Switch has been described as having a nice GPU, but challenging memory bandwidth and CPU constraints. A remake like this plays to the Switch's strengths perfectly, because the underlying game is relatively untaxing with it's Gamecube origins. Lots of confined spaces in this particular case. I am looking forward to what Retro will be able to do with the scale of the gameworld though! I like how compact this feels, but a more open environment could be awesome as well.
Finally, Doom 2016 cribbed quite a few things from Prime, didn't it?
Prime 4 should look better on the basis of it being designed ground-up for Switch
It's graphically fantastic and the new modernised default control scheme works incredibly well. Picked this up yesterday and having a blast.
I wonder if Prime 4 will have more of a survival horror feel like Dread. It works so well with Metroid because the franchise was deeply inspired by Alien.
I wonder if Prime 4 will have more of a survival horror feel like Dread. It works so well with Metroid because the franchise was deeply inspired by Alien.
The hint system has always been optional, but yeah, the additions are thoughtful. Unfortunately there's no control scheme that feels perfect to me, but dual analog is close enough (I'm still occasionally tripping over holding X for beam selection though).
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When I first played Prime 20 years ago, my only experience with the series was Metroid 2. Now that I've been through the whole series - and especially after 2 playthroughs of Dread - Chozo Ruins hit much harder.
I think the Polygon review has it right: Prime's gameplay style and structure encourages contemplation and consideration. So personally what I'm really loving is seeing the remnants of Chozo civilization on Tallon IV properly understanding Samus's story and history with that people. It's a powerful, melancholic experience.
I think the Polygon review has it right: Prime's gameplay style and structure encourages contemplation and consideration. So personally what I'm really loving is seeing the remnants of Chozo civilization on Tallon IV properly understanding Samus's story and history with that people. It's a powerful, melancholic experience.
YolkFolk
Tingle
All came in much less than a year:
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario 3D World + Bowser’s Fury
Prime 2 & 3 will just be HD versions with control updates in my opinion. Kinda like the Sunshine and Galaxy releases.
Mr Doggo
Anti oof
I strongly agree.
Can we talk about how crazy samus's model is? I wouldnt be surprised if its by far the model with the highest amount of tris in any nintendo game. It wouldnt shock me if it was 100k
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Has it?!
Yeah you have always had the ability to turn off the hint system in every version of the game.
manfromthedam
Semi Undercover Game Music Guy
So the Infrared Visor sound effect is bugging me. Sounds like a dude counting from 1-5 over and over with a filter on it =P .
Same, it's got a certain type of harshness to it that's fitting of the time period.
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But yes. The only Prime game where you couldn't fully turn it off was non-Trilogy Prime 3. It's on be default in all games, though.
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Amazon still doesn't have a delivery date listed for my order, but I'm not too pressed about it since I'm double-dipping.
(I'll be kind of annoyed if it comes after the 22nd though.)
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I just played the first section up until landing on Tallon for the first time. It took longer than it needed to because I stood around and scanned every possible thing.
I know the game pretty well after going through it a few times over the years, so I just want to take my time with this run and appreciate all the work that went into it. Seeing screenshots was impressive, but actually playing it takes it to another level.
Dread in 2021, Prime Remastered in 2023, Prime 4 likely no later than 2024... Metroid truly is back. I'm going to savor this as much as possible!
I know the game pretty well after going through it a few times over the years, so I just want to take my time with this run and appreciate all the work that went into it. Seeing screenshots was impressive, but actually playing it takes it to another level.
Dread in 2021, Prime Remastered in 2023, Prime 4 likely no later than 2024... Metroid truly is back. I'm going to savor this as much as possible!
Crushed Blacks Solution
PSA for any goofs like me may be experiencing areas of pitch black and crushed darks:
As usual, always remember to make sure your color spaces are matched up between devices!
My TV was set to YCBCR(limited) color space, while my Switch was set to Automatic (and was apparently outputting RGB). I believe YCBCR is typically the norm for gaming, however switching that TV setting to Auto (which caused the tv to choose RGB instead, or by manually switching it to RGB) instantly solved my crushed blacks by matching up the color spaces between the two devices. Blacks are still black but areas of shadow are now full of detail.
I'm a little embarrassed because I'm a bit of a display enthusiast and usually very conscious of these settings. I don't recall ever having this matchup issue with my Switch games before though, that's weird. However a recent TV firmware update scrambled all my display settings, so I'll blame it on that.
Before: Switch Automatic (RGB), TV YCBCR (Limited)
After: Switch Automatic (RGB), TV Automatic (RGB)
Whether you go with Limited or Full (or Auto), just make sure both are matching up!
As usual, always remember to make sure your color spaces are matched up between devices!
My TV was set to YCBCR(limited) color space, while my Switch was set to Automatic (and was apparently outputting RGB). I believe YCBCR is typically the norm for gaming, however switching that TV setting to Auto (which caused the tv to choose RGB instead, or by manually switching it to RGB) instantly solved my crushed blacks by matching up the color spaces between the two devices. Blacks are still black but areas of shadow are now full of detail.
I'm a little embarrassed because I'm a bit of a display enthusiast and usually very conscious of these settings. I don't recall ever having this matchup issue with my Switch games before though, that's weird. However a recent TV firmware update scrambled all my display settings, so I'll blame it on that.
Before: Switch Automatic (RGB), TV YCBCR (Limited)
After: Switch Automatic (RGB), TV Automatic (RGB)
Whether you go with Limited or Full (or Auto), just make sure both are matching up!
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Serif
𝕽𝖊𝖓𝖊𝖌𝖆𝖉𝖊 𝕬𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖑
Metroid II and Fusion on NSO too
it's all happening so quickly now, but I ain't complaining.
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If you think Prime 1 reminds you of SS, wait til you play Prime 2!Aaand I'm stuck... and still loving it. It starts requiring of the player to piece the different levels together. Just got the varia suit, and already passed through the lava section without avail. Time for more scrounging! EDIT: found it! Unrelated: I love how more open Phendrana Drifts looks :O .
There's a host of tiny little changes that would've been nice (gamma and FOV sliders, a confirmation dialogue when entering an elevator to prevent accidental load screens =P etc. ), but otherwise this game feels completely effortless - which is a sign of excellence.
In a weird way I'm reminded of Skyward Sword playing this. Maybe that game, with it's Metroidvania-light elements, prepared my mind for Dread which in turn prepared me for this. Curious what @brainchild , as a fellow Skyward Sword apologist, thinks of that!
Aesthetically this reminds me of both Metroid Dread (unsurprisingly), but more interestingly it feels like Morrowind in a way. More specifically, what a proper Morrowind remake would look like. Perhaps that's due to how the remade assets respect the angularity of the original art, something that was a technical necessity at the time.
Also, for anyone hoping Prime 4 will look even better: personally I don't count on it. Switch has been described as having a nice GPU, but challenging memory bandwidth and CPU constraints. A remake like this plays to the Switch's strengths perfectly, because the underlying game is relatively untaxing with it's Gamecube origins. Lots of confined spaces in this particular case. I am looking forward to what Retro will be able to do with the scale of the gameworld though! I like how compact this feels, but a more open environment could be awesome as well.
Finally, Doom 2016 cribbed quite a few things from Prime, didn't it?
It’s structured into 3 distinct segments like SS
manfromthedam
Semi Undercover Game Music Guy
I'm not enjoying the Infrared Visor combat section at all, with the stupid high contrast blurriness hurting my eyes and the stupid security drones jamming your vision even more. Just died there a second time, and it's obvious combat just isn't this game's strength.
Can't wait to get back to the chill exploration 'n puzzling with light combat the game does so well.
Can't wait to get back to the chill exploration 'n puzzling with light combat the game does so well.
ILovethegameAC
Shriekbat
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Another thing that surprised me about this is that despite how good it looks at 60fps, the battery doesn't die nearly as fast as in other similar games on the Switch like Portal 2 or Doom Eternal, and the fan doesn't go as crazy as in those. Is still not as good as an indie or an old emulated game in that sense, but it still kind of shocking imo.
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Okay scratch that, I was just fighting muscle memory from Gamecube. The blaster on the trigger works well, just had to get more of a feel for it
Discokuningas
Moblin
This is such a good looking game and even 60 fps. When I got to Phendrana I couldn't believe this is a Switch game. I had seen some videos but when you play it yourself.. just unbelievable!
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Holy shit. As a first-time player, I just lost hours of progress (or at least it feels like it). Lost the Varia Suit.
My hours of bliss were ruined by a lack of any autosave whatsoever. I can't believe save rooms are still this infrequent in the remaster. Lost 4 missile expansions too. Oh well, I at least killed the first major boss again and saved.
And I even sequence broke (I think) by skipping Magmoor Cavern North, going back to Tallon IV Overworld and finding Magmoor Cavern East, then making my way to Phendrana Drifts North without ever exploring Magmoor Cavern North.
My hours of bliss were ruined by a lack of any autosave whatsoever. I can't believe save rooms are still this infrequent in the remaster. Lost 4 missile expansions too. Oh well, I at least killed the first major boss again and saved.
OP
OP
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I've never seen it described this way, but you're totally right.That's the way of the process, Joe. It's a wonderful thing.
Buried In Time
Wave Racer & Windjammer
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Japan got a more in-depth trailer:
Loads of stuff doesn't exist anymore, but most of that was due to the fact Metroid Prime got many updates/reprints that removed speedrun stuff on GameCube and some more on Wii. This remaster is built on the Wii version so anything that didn't exist there doesn't exist here. One thing I do know that is a remaster change is how out of bounds movement works and it is now way different and considerably harder than it was before.
Another variant of early space jump boots does exist in the Wii version which does work in the remastered version though.
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Ah, got it. I’ve only ever played the original Gamecube version before, it’s the one I know really well. Didn’t realize a lot of that had been patched out later.
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Was it so what?
OP
OP
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Well, I couldn't wait. lol
how am i supposed to wait 11 days for this
Such a good looking game. Still wild to believe this is running on Switch... and at 60 FPS!
curl-6
Chain Chomp
One of my most abiding impressions of Prime has always been its incredible sense of place; more than almost any other game I've played, it really felt like it transported me to another world, to the point I could almost smell the rain-soaked greenery of Tallon overworld or feel the icy cold of Phrendrana Drifts.
Many great games craft living, breathing worlds, but almost none managed to immerse me in one so deeply as Prime, to the point where in my mind, Tallon IV almost registers as a place I actually went to, like my student exchange to Japan as a teen.
I cannot wait to revisit it, both to experience how it has been reimagined, and with the greater understanding and appreciation I've gained with age.
Many great games craft living, breathing worlds, but almost none managed to immerse me in one so deeply as Prime, to the point where in my mind, Tallon IV almost registers as a place I actually went to, like my student exchange to Japan as a teen.
I cannot wait to revisit it, both to experience how it has been reimagined, and with the greater understanding and appreciation I've gained with age.
Mr Doggo
Anti oof
plus smaller developments such as the creation of the website.
Joe
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Three Metroid games have been announced and released since the Metroid Prime 4 reveal. Only one more to go.
9-Volt
Adept
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I've been contemplating whether to buy this game or not. Only got Echoes on Gamecube and absolutely hated it. The game was unnecessarily difficult. There was this level where you life drops constantly and I think that was the most frustrating level in any FPS game. Difficulty was very unfair. (MP was super fun tho)
How is Prime 1? Easier or harder? I need something to play after I'm done with FE. A palate cleanser.
How is Prime 1? Easier or harder? I need something to play after I'm done with FE. A palate cleanser.
Mr Doggo
Anti oof
Easier. Way easier. Its tanabe's fault that echoes was that hard.
Prime does have a problem with save points being too far away from each other but other than that its way easier than echoes.
Dark Cloud
Warpstar Knight
Heron
Koopa
Ridiculous how after all this time, the game just grabs you and won't let go. The video game equivalent of a page-turner.
I hear "Dial zero zero three five hundred" so clearly, repeated again and again and again....
That has bugged me ever since 2002.
I hear "Dial zero zero three five hundred" so clearly, repeated again and again and again....
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It's been so long since I've actually had to fight Thardus legitimately, he's tougher than I remember! He's just so much fun to obliterate with the plasma beam, I still think it's amazing that they actually bothered to make him weak to that despite there being no intended way to have it when you fight him.
Joe
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It's been about eight years since I played before this and somehow I remembered just about everything very clearly. I was able to look at doors and have an exact picture in my head of what rooms were behind them. The muscle memory I have is so strong, it made me realize just how many times I've played this game.
IronTed
Cappy
Wow, I didn't know that was a thing! You learn something new every day.
