Is the Switch's projected library the best of any Nintendo console ever?

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  • Yes, it has/will have the best library of any Nintendo console

    Votes: 144 91.7%
  • No, I like more (X) console (comment in the thread)

    Votes: 13 8.3%

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Sadist

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Well it’s certainly heading there

One of the best systems I own though
 

Mori Medinayo

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After next year, without counting rumoured and not confirmed, in my opinion it will be, after that, if more games arrive (Metroid Prime 1 remake, Donkey Kong, Mario Kart 9) it will just make Switch far far better than any console ever.
 

Lichtsang

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That you name this travesty of a game! How dare you!

I just liked many of the 3DS RPGs better. I love Asano.
And the 3DS also gave us so many good Atlus games I prefer over DQ and FF.
 
When Switch 2 or whatever lands, BC enabled, that will be the true deity in Nintendo’s lineup

I‘m a firm believer that non-BC consoles set the stage for the real star to shine.
 

fiendcode

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I feel like it gets there through sheer volume. At over 6500 unique releases Switch already has more games than NES, SNES, N64, GC, Wii and Wii U combined or more than GB, VB, GBA, DS and 3DS combined.
 

LoneRanger

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Its the ultimate “legacy console” that has lots of PS3/X360/WiiU hardware generation and below titles. And likely will receive more in the future.
 

AquaWateria

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I still think it hasn't gotten there yet only because a lot of Nintendo's first-party games comes from the Wii U which people don't give credit for. It undeniably helps the software lineup a lot.

Still, before I can say anything I need to see a new Donkey Kong and Rythm Heaven game otherwise it's not the best yet.
 

Beard

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Switch is so good it turned Skyward Sword into a legitimately great game.

I mean, c’mon. If that doesn’t prove Switch is Nintendo’s best system, what will?!?
 

Brawlz

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Absolutely. I don't see how anything other than maybe Gamecube or SNES (I assume consoles only) can compete.
 

maniacmaison

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I’ve never bought so many games in my life, and next year Im buying at least 7 games, most of them super exciting. When people look back at their favourite console, they talk about specific games that were unique and left a mark. Switch’s library has done that with me more times than I can count. There already are so many incredible games I’m just excited for the future of the platform. Cant wait for 2022.
 

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Yup. Switch has the strongest library since SNES. The library has quantity, quality, and depth

Only genre where Switch is weaker is sports. (No Madden, No NHL).
SNES, N64, GameCube, and Wii all have the Switch beat in the sports genre.

Otherwise, Switch is on its way to becoming legendary.
 

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Switch is hands down my favorite Nintendo console. The only one that comes close is the Wii and N64.
 

9-Volt

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Only genre where Switch is weaker is sports. (No Madden, No NHL).
It's missing traditional multiplayer FPS subgenre too. We got FPS games in every flavor on Switch, story based ones, RPG ones, battle royale ones, asymmetric ones, team based ones... But still not a single traditional deathmatch FPS game, in the vein of Call of Duty or Battlefield, on Switch.

This can be fixed if EA decides to remaster one of their older FPS titles (personal wish: Bad Company 1-2) for every current platform (they this shiny new port studio Stellar). They've been high on remaster business lately, maybe we're lucky enough to get what we need on Switch.
 

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Only genre where Switch is weaker is sports.

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Luigi is not pleased. 😡
 

Ahmed

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I'm still going to give it to the DS. The third party exclusives give it the edge. The Switch is amazing for sure, but it's not a system that will get many third party exclusives/multiplatform games. The first party games are probably the best, even counting the exclusives. It basically has nearly everything the Wii U had and then some.

I'm probably ranking it like this, but my thoughts would change with the day:
1. DS
2. Switch
3. 3DS
3. SNES
5. Gamecube

3DS and SNES are to me tied, I honestly don't know which I prefer. I always keep changing my mind. And sometimes I prefer those over Switch, because of exclusives.
 

Yoshifan31

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Overall it is by default when you include ports since it has a huge variety of third party games spanning from multiple generations

For exclusives it’s still N64 for me, nothing beats Mario 64/OOT/MM/Banjo

For first party games it’s the Wii with BC, you can basically play anything from Nintendo home consoles there
 

Jarmusch

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Id say yes because its easier and therefore more common than ever to port and remaster stuff from previous gens. In that sense all the latest consoles in the market have a depth that old machines struggle to match
 

Emily

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Funny enough, I feel like Switch is getting all the PS2 ports that GC really needed.

Yeah, it's amusing isn't it? Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto, Devil May Cry are all on Switch now.

GameCube completely missed out on the Dragon Quest series. Meanwhile, Switch has Dragon Quest 11 S.
 

Gartooth

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In terms of overall library, yes absolutely. No doubt it will be looked back on as the best Nintendo platform ever. For me, Switch isn't there yet. A lot of Nintendo staples that I buy Nintendo hardware for are still stuck on Wii U iterations, and while in a macro sense this isn't a problem for Switch, on a personal note it is. I think Switch has the 2nd weakest platformer library of any Nintendo home console, only above the Gamecube. This matters to me because platformers is my favorite genre.

Going into year 6 next year, the only standouts to me are Odyssey, Mario Maker 2, and the short but sweet Bowser's Fury. I found Kirby and Yoshi disappointing, and the Switch doesn't have its own traditional 2D Mario or Donkey Kong. I'm looking forward to 3D Kirby, and maybe EPD will still put platformers out on the Switch before Nintendo's next console.
 

KC Hazel

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Maybe? N64 is still the top console for me. Switch has too many big releases that are just ports in my book. There is still time, so we'll see.
 

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I've only been into "enthusiast" gaming for the past 7-11 years, so some of those older consoles are harder to judge. I'd basically just be judging the few games I played that originated from them, without having actually played in the console's ecosystem itself.

That being said, whether or not the Switch ends up having the best Nintendo library, I will say I don't think it really became a contender in that category until this year. I'm in the minority that thinks 2017 was pretty meh quality-wise (outside of Breath of the Wild), which means that the Switch has kind of been playing catch up for truly great exclusives from my perspective. 2019 delivered, 2020 had some good third party games + ports, and 2021 so far might even beat 2019 as the best year in the Switch's history. Before 2021, before we got a proper Monster Hunter, Ace Attorney, and 2D Metroid I would have said the Switch was high up there but probably not #1. But there's just such a nice spread of high quality games this year, it's really impressive. Definitely makes this my 2nd favorite console of all time, with its only competition being the Xbox 360 (nostalgia + developing my game taste) and mayyyyyyyyyybeeeeeeeee the Wii (just for nostalgia).

Another thing I'd say is that, with the comparison to the DS, part of what made the DS library so good I think is that Nintendo really tapped into how to make sequels in a relatively short amount of time AND gave the system an appropriate life span. It effectively mastered the quality-AND-quantity equation that most consoles simply have a hard time doing. On the other hand, the Switch isn't even close to having that kind of pipeline. Most of Nintendo's biggest teams are actually taking a long time to release new games (the Splatoon/Animal Crossing division is REALLY picking up the slack here). Luckily, the Switch's lifespan is long enough that we'll probably get those sequels anyways, and they'll probably be more memorable games too than their DS counterparts. But it's still something interesting to think about.
 

TheDok

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No, I don't think it'll top the Gamecube's library for me. Not enough mid-tier 1st party games on the Switch for me, unlike the NGC.
 

Terraforce

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First party games alone it's already one of the best. Then factor in third party games (something that has almost always been weak on Nintendo hardware) and it has a pretty sizeable lead. Then as an added bonus, if you include backwards compatibility and factor in the NSO NES/SNES/N64/Genesis games on top of that, then it's an outright wash in favor of the Switch. Not even a tad close.
 

E.Gadd

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Switch for me has been a couple of amazing Nintendo games a year, and then an absolute slew of great indie games/ports of old classic games that I just find myself playing way longer than I do on PC. Is it the form factor? Probably. What about how engaged and vocal the Switch audience has been? Also a big factor for me I think.

Like I don't imagine I ever would have heard about Toree 3D if I didn't have a Switch, and that's sad to think about.

So, yeah, for me it's up there with Ps2 and DS and we haven't even gotten that new Resident Evil game or Mario Baseball 3 yet.

Could really use more Nintendo racing games tho
 

Sadist

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More serious;

Switch has some of my favourite Nintendo games; Breath of the Wild, Odyssey, Xenoblade 2, Smash Brosh Ultimate, Luigi’s Mansion 3, Fire Emblem Three Houses and more.

It has stuff like Mario + Rabbids, Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity, Octopath Traveler, Deadly Premonition 2, Travis Strikes Again, NMH 3, Great Ace Attorney…

Even ports like Dark Souls, Tales of Vesperia, Final Fantasy XII, Vampyr, Dragon Ball FighterZ are great
 

bmfrosty

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It ain't Steam, but it seems like it's getting almost every game that we could possibly expect to run on the system. Especially indie games.

Big 3rd party publishers are another matter. They're somewhere between stubborn (want Nintendo to pay them to have games on their system) and dismissive of the Switch's large user base much of the time. Bethesda being the exception.

If we see more capability for running older games on the Dane Switch, we could theoretically see emulated GameCube and Wii games, and adding Wii support would be fairly trivial with the the bluetooth already built into the system - they could sell a Wiimote/Nunchuck/USB Sensor Bar package for a bit, or just a USB Sensor Bar for those that already have their Wii kit sticking around.

Within the Switch ecosystem we could have all the systems except for Wii U, VB, and DS/3DS titles, and that's also solvable with something like the flip grip.
 

pokeDrago

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From a perspective of pure numbers and what's available to play on it, I feel it's pretty unarguable at this point. There is a shitload of quality games to play across all generations, and portably at that

Speaking personally I'm really not sure. I tend to associate a console with its exclusive experiences and I feel like in that regard Switch has been mostly middle of the pack for me. First party has had some standouts to be sure but I can't think of many or any switch entries of series' that I'd consider my absolute favorites even if I still had good-amazing times with nearly all of em. The kind of games "built around the hardware" we would get in the past is more or less a dead art especially from third parties, with some exceptions - nearly every third party release is something I can play elsewhere even if I do gravitate towards switch versions either for sentimental reasons or if it's just whats most convenient (for the record I think this is probably for the better but I'm a weirdo who enjoyed the weird side games that Nintendo platforms would get rather than just the same game as on other platforms)

This year has fuckin rocked and next year is looking similarly strong, but there has always just been something about the switch library that makes it feel like something is missing to me, even though there is a shitload of killer stuff to play and I have played a bunch of stuff on it, it's one of my bigger collections at this point. I'm not sure if I will ever be able to put my finger on it, and frankly I dont think it matters in the end I just wanted to get this off my chest lol. Its a phenomenal machine I just wish they would add fucking folders to it
 

GamerJM

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This is my tier list of where everything is right now:

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If everything in 2022 reaches expectations, and the Switch also has a good 2023, then it moves to the front of A tier. If it continues for a couple years beyond that it has a pretty good shot at making it into S tier.

There are very few all-time favorites of mine on the Switch, but I do really like the hardware and it has the best third-party support of any Nintendo platform since the SNES.
 

Zalman

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I think so, both in terms of quality and quantity. I've never owned as many games for a system as the Switch. And looking at this year alone, we got a ton of "miracle" games - New Pokémon Snap, Famicom Detective Club, NEO: The World Ends With You, The Great Ace Attorney, Metroid Dread and more. It's become a system with incredible variety.
 

z1ggy

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My all time fav console from Nintendo is the SNES, Switch might be up there or above it for when its gen ends. Eitther way, it has become one of my fav consoles ever.
 

sleepnaught

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No, not quite. Still SNES for me. Many of its best games are ports from Wii U. No DK game of its own, and Mario Odyssey is a pretty weak 3D Mario game. Meanwhile, SNES got 2 one of the best Mario games of all time, it's own Mario Kart game, THREE Donkey Kong Country games, and a lot more.

3rd party wise, I'm not really a fan of most 3rd party games these days. Much preferred games from the 16 bit era, but I realize a lot of that is nostalgia talking. But, games like Cybernator, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, Castlevania, Contra III, FFVI, Chrono Trigger, etc were amazing hits one after the other.

That said, the Switch library is still damn good. I just don't think it quite edges out the SNES. But, there's still time for that.
 

Ferru

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I think that the Swith has the best library of a nintendo system ever. Only if you have some specific tastes is that i fails in comparison. Buy yes is the best (And if we count games that are said to come out on 2022 is not even close)
 

Mina

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By the time Animal Crossing launched, it already amassed a library that made me consider it my favorite system of all time.

It’s only widened the lead since then. And still so much to go!
 

John Omaha

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It depends on how much stock you put into original, current-gen software.

In terms of pure library, it's hard to argue against Switch being #1, especially when the system has no backwards compatibility. You've got native versions of the best NES, SNES and soon-to-be N64 and Genesis games. You've got the full Neo Geo library. A lot of the best third-party games of the past three decades are getting re-releases. Most of the Wii U's best games have been ported over. And after all that, you've got some pretty strong showings from Nintendo's first party + indies + a decent amount of mid-tier-and-below Japanese third party software (more on that later).

If you value original content, however, I think the Switch is a solid B+. Nintendo has relied a lot on Wii U ports to fill out the library. As a result, we've yet to see an original Mario Kart, 2D Mario or Donkey Kong game, and we're just now starting to see revivals of beloved franchises (Metroid, Advance Wars), and active mid-tier series getting major leaps forward (Paper Mario Origami King, Kirby and the Forgotten Land). It also seems like EPD have cooled down on their 'traditional gaming' new IP initiative after ARMS seemingly failed to meet their lofty expectations.

Third parties have also been mediocre - western studios are one thing but with how strong sales have been in Japan from the start, I was expecting a much stronger software pipeline by now, with a good amount of more experimental and/or mid-tier software aimed at the Switch, then up-ported to the other platforms. Instead, it has sort of picked up where the 3DS and a more successful Vita would have left off... and that's about it, with some former notable Vita devs (Falcom, Vanillaware) having to be dragged kicking and screaming to support the platform. Sega has yet to release a single new, high-effort project on the system. Namco are mostly doing old ports. After porting most of their classic FF catalog, Square-Enix seem content with putting out HD-2D nostalgia-bait. Ironically, Capcom, who arguably have the least to lose by sidelining Japan after Monster Hunter World sold more than the three previous mainline games combined, also have the strongest Switch pipeline if the list of games leaked through the hack is to be believed.

As for me, I think the Switch is just a tier below the SNES and DS.
 

k samedi

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Yeah I think so. Not only in quantity but in quality also. I think the next Switch should really add pointer functionality to the joy cons so that we see more stuff like Red Steel and motion gaming in general. I miss a few games from the Wii days too like Wii Sports but generaly speaking a lot of genres are covered with high quality games on Switch.
 

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Let's see. For new, original exclusive content, we've got:

- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
- Super Mario Odyssey
- Fire Emblem: Three Houses
- Xenoblade Chronicles 2
- Splatoon 2
- Metroid Dread
- Animal Crossing: New Horizons
- Kirby and the Forgotten Land
- New Pokemon Snap
- Monster Hunter Rise
- Bravely Default 2
- Triangle Strategy
- Paper Mario: The Origami King
- Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
- Shin Megami Tensei V
- Pokemon Legends: Arceus


That right there is an incredible lineup. And it doesn't even include any of the massive amounts of quality ports, remakes, multiplats, and indies.

If I were to include those, well, just look:

- Super Mario 3D All-Stars
- Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury
- The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
- The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD
- Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
- Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition
- Dragon Quest XI S
- Trials of Mana
- Octopath Traveler
- Pikmin 3 Deluxe
- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
- Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 + 2
- Doom
- Doom Eternal
- Advance Wars 1 + 2: ReBoot Camp
- Dark Souls: Remastered
- Hades
- Hollow Knight


And I feel confident that we have at least three more years of full steady first- and third- party support.

Yeah, this is my favorite Nintendo console and Nintendo library of all time if you couldn't tell.
 

NabiscoFelt

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No, not quite. Still SNES for me. Many of its best games are ports from Wii U. No DK game of its own, and Mario Odyssey is a pretty weak 3D Mario game. Meanwhile, SNES got 2 one of the best Mario games of all time, it's own Mario Kart game, THREE Donkey Kong Country games, and a lot more.

3rd party wise, I'm not really a fan of most 3rd party games these days. Much preferred games from the 16 bit era, but I realize a lot of that is nostalgia talking. But, games like Cybernator, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, Castlevania, Contra III, FFVI, Chrono Trigger, etc were amazing hits one after the other.

That said, the Switch library is still damn good. I just don't think it quite edges out the SNES. But, there's still time for that.
My main problem with this "The Switch library is so reliant on the Wii U" argument that pops up a lot is that it's very dependent on what genres you like. And by that I mostly mean it's very dependent on how much you like 2D platformers, because I feel like most people arguing this are coming from DK:TF as their primary example. Even the Wii U's 3D platformer port takes a lot from 2D platformers in its design.

As a JRPG fan I find very few people arguing that TMS is carrying the Switch. But even outside that, I own 3 Wii U to Switch ports (Bayo 2, MK8, Pikmin 3) and like, maybe one would crack my top 20 Switch games.
 
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