Garbage Galaxy Is Metroid Dread the Dark Souls of the Metroid Series?

[Hidden04]

Metroid Dread launched on October 8th, 2021 and was highly praised for it's atmosphere and gameplay, as well as the story. However, the game is quite hard, with some bosses and emenies sapping away quarters or half of your health bar in one hit.

I died over 20 times to this boss.

This can be compared to Dark Souls, and its deadly and rage-inducing bosses.

Nintendo has finally created a beast of a game that exceeds Dark Souls...METROID DREAD! Truly it is Nintendo's Dark Souls... a true masterpiece!

 

[lemonfresh]

Delete this thread

 

[Aostia82]

I tried and fail and then hated every Dark whatever game
Woth Dread I can't stop playing and replaying it
So for me ia no

 

[Timefire]

I tried and fail and then loved every Dark whatever game
With Dread I can't stop playing and replaying it
So for me is yes

 

[NateDrake]

No.

It's a Metroid game of the Metroid series.

It stays true to the formula of prior Metroid games.

 

[AquaWateria]

"Dark Souls of Persona"

This meme will never die.

 

[byDoS]

Is there a 3D game more metroidy than the Soulsborne series? (aside the Prime trilogy, obviously)

Arkham Asylum?

 

[Sejes]

haha i died a lot on that boss too.

dread is the first game in a while where these skillcheck bosses are actually fun, because i really want to see whats next in the game.

Arkham Asylum?

i wish the arkham series continued in the metroidvania direction instead of going open world

 

[A. G. Cook]

No, I hate it when people compare anything to "Souls" games, even as a fan of the series myself. It's a redundant comparison and games that were difficult or unforgiving existed long before Demon's Souls.

 

[Vantell]

I said yes to git gud. But no to the thread.

Anyway, did I die a lot? Yes
Did it seem unfair? Yes
Was it unfair? No

Is there a solution to every fight and it becomes pretty damn easy? Yes.

 

[ILikeFeet]

Makes sense, Dark Souls is a metroidvania

 

[SiG]

 

[Phantom Thief]

Y’all didn’t play Samus Returns and it shows

 

[WestEgg]

Metroid Dread is the fifth game in the traditional 2D Metroid series.

 

[Skittzo]

More like Dark Souls is the Metroid of the Dark Souls series.

 

[Ramune]

There’s no in-game mechanic to call for others to come and do bosses for you in Metroid Dread like in the famously easy Dark Souls.

Y’all didn’t play Samus Returns and it shows

The cover fell off my 3DS stick and I’ve already played Metroid 2. I ain’t playing all that! I’m happy for Samus tho. Or sorry that happened.

 

[Brock Reiher]

It reminded me a lot of both Dark Souls III and the Rise of the Skywalker

 

[Robert]

Are people suddenly surprised that a Metroid game is difficult? Guess no-one played Fusion, the immediate prequel to Dread, and its biggest influence by far. Or Samus Returns, Mecury Steam's last Metroid game. Or Prime 3 on Hypermode for that matter, as that game loves cleaving whole energy tanks from big attacks.

 

[SammyJ9]

"Dark Souls of Persona"

This meme will never die.

This image makes me physically ill

 

[Benzychenz]

Undoubtedly, yes.

It’s really the first 2D Metroid game that really makes you learn the boss tells and patterns.

In most boss fights in the older ones you can kinda go guns blazing, let loose all your missions and usually kill the boss before they kill you. That doesn’t work here.

 

[Aurc]

I died a few times on Kraid, but only a few. I'm actually really surprised that people are finding the game so hard. It feels no tougher to me than the usual 2D Metroid. If you've played Samus Returns, even better, since those mechanics have been carried over and expanded upon from there. MercurySteam have done well to modernize the gameplay of 2D Metroid, and create entertaining boss fights as well.

 

[Miraj]

Absolutely. I keep jokingly referring to it as such with my friends. The focus on precision combat/parrying is pretty notable, as is the "die, learn pattern, die, continue to learn pattern, eventually win" trial and error with the EMMIs and bosses. The game is flat out the hardest Metroid, IMO, and a lot of it comes down to requiring you to "get gud" in a Dark Souls-type fashion.

 

[SiG]

What does that make Super Metroid, then?

I do think Super Metroid was quite as difficult, until you got the boss patterns down...much like Dread.

 

[KC Hazel]

People are really starting to give me the impression that Souls games must not be that hard. Anytime a game with above average difficulty releases I see this topic. Same thing happened with Kena. Maybe games are just really easy these days and that makes Souls stand out. Having no experience with Souls I'll just say that Dread wasn't very difficult. It required the player to be engaged and pay attention, which is good.

 

[kennzoil]

game hard = dark souls of [game series]

 

[Pandora]

People are really starting to give me the impression that Souls games must not be that hard. Anytime a game with above average difficulty releases I see this topic. Same thing happened with Kena. Maybe games are just really easy these days and that makes Souls stand out. Having no experience with Souls I'll just say that Dread wasn't very difficult. It required the player to be engaged and pay attention, which is good.

I mean fundamentally yes, souls games aren’t that hard , a lot of it is trial and error and in some cases risk assessment in terms of the corpse run etc . but difficulty will always be subjective , and what makes a game difficult for some will not be the same . personally dying a lot doesn’t make a game hard to me especially not from a skill based factor , i have had more trouble with certain rhythm games at high difficulties than I ever will with cuphead , hollow knight and dread . And dread offers you various options to make an encounter easier too like doing some clean up for items or some quick kill elements if you can figure it out.

 

[TheGreatLugia]

Stop.

 

[NabiscoFelt]

Undoubtedly, yes.

It’s really the first 2D Metroid game that really makes you learn the boss tells and patterns.

In most boss fights in the older ones you can kinda go guns blazing, let loose all your missions and usually kill the boss before they kill you. That doesn’t work here.

I can't believe this Samus Returns erasure

Anyways, Dark Souls as an adjective means (or at least should mean) more than just "hard but fair" boss fights

 

[AngryAlchemist]

Undoubtedly, yes.

It’s really the first 2D Metroid game that really makes you learn the boss tells and patterns.

In most boss fights in the older ones you can kinda go guns blazing, let loose all your missions and usually kill the boss before they kill you. That doesn’t work here.

Even though I think people overrate Fusion's difficulty, I think that game was actually the first to have consistently challenging bosses. Sure, once you learn the pattern they're easier ... but it has some of the tightest hitboxes in the series (which is especially evident with those fucking Robot bosses you have to aim at perfectly), and it was the first time Samus was super weak in a Metroid game.

Hell, it's after-boss X-parasite shenanigans can be pretty challenging, and

Spoiler: Shhhhhh

are way harder than Dread's version by a country-mile.

 

[Benzychenz]

I can't believe this Samus Returns erasure

Anyways, Dark Souls as an adjective means (or at least should mean) more than just "hard but fair" boss fights

I don’t remember much difficulty in Samus Returns other than that digger whatever fight which was fairly late game. Early game Dread seems much harder so far.

 

[TheMoon]

I'm so happy the Garbage Galaxy tag exists for threads.

 

[Slash]

dark souls is when game hard

 

[Krvavi Abadas]

This thread is officially the Dark Souls of Famiboards.

 

[BlueManifest]

I’m past the 3rd boss now, it’s challenging but I wouldn’t say it’s dark souls hard

Does it get harder or something?

 

[Sailor Moon]

I’m really bad at both of them, but a lot of my problems with Dread are caused more by my sudden and inexplicable inability to navigate the map. Even with markers I constantly forget where I want to go, which is, uh, kind of embarrassing.

With Dark Souls it’s more just my general inability to play 3D action games well.

 

[totofogo]

I am way too tired of this comparison lol, but yes the boss fights are tough stuff

 

[Tatsu]

I died a few times on Kraid, but only a few. I'm actually really surprised that people are finding the game so hard. It feels no tougher to me than the usual 2D Metroid. If you've played Samus Returns, even better, since those mechanics have been carried over and expanded upon from there. MercurySteam have done well to modernize the gameplay of 2D Metroid, and create entertaining boss fights as well.

The bosses aren't actually hard they are just harder than nintendo bosses usually are i would compare their difficulty to that of megaman boss wise. Meaning memorize their patterns and their easy.

 

[Mendinso]

MOTHER OF METROIDS!

 

[Dopply]

Congratulations to Dark Souls for becoming the brand name for 'difficult video games'. Contra, we hardly knew ya.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Is there a 3D game more metroidy than the Soulsborne series? (aside the Prime trilogy, obviously)

Arkham Asylum?

Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order...which is rather Soulsy itself.

 

[Benzychenz]

Congratulations to Dark Souls for becoming the brand name for 'difficult video games'. Contra, we hardly knew ya.

Contra is some boomer shit.

 

[Dragoncaine]

I first tried the first boss and killed the 2nd boss on the second try in Dread. Third-tried the 3rd boss. A couple of the mini bosses gave me more trouble, but so far I'd say this is a challenging game but Fusion is still harder in the moment to moment gameplay.

 

[Instro]

From what I've played so far, the game is both difficult and not difficult. Mainly because it doesn't really punish you for playing badly and dying, since there are so many checkpoints and save points. Coupled with there being tons refill stations around, a lot of the difficulty is undercut a bit, but the enemies hit pretty hard so it's somewhat balanced out.

That said it's a solidly challenging game, which I appreciate. A lot about this game just kind of reinforces how far Nintendo has come from the years of designing overly handholdy or easy games and all that kind of nonsense they thought was necessary. BotW being so successful, and the general makeup of the Switch audience, has been pretty great for the company.

 

[bellydrum]

 

[Sejes]

1986: Metroid is released and trailblazes exploration based platforming.

1997: SotN reimagines the metroid formula as a gothic RPG, so successfully so, the genre becomes "Metroid-Vania".

2009: Demons Souls, nails the Castlevania experience - in 3D, as a-tough-as-nails action game that revolutionizes 3D combat/progression and launches it's own "Souls-Like" genre.



2021: Metroid Dread is the Souls-Like-Metroid-Vania we've all been waiting for. the king is back baybee

 

[Benzychenz]

1986: Metroid is released and trailblazes exploration based platforming.

1997: SotN reimagines the metroid formula as a gothic RPG, so successfully so, the genre becomes "Metroid-Vania".

2009: Demons Souls, nails the Castlevania experience - in 3D, as a-tough-as-nails action game that revolutionizes 3D combat/progression and launches it's own "Souls-Like" genre.



2021: Metroid Dread is the Souls-Like-Metroid-Vania we've all been waiting for. the king is back baybee

Wow it’s really the same amount of time between SotN and DeS as it is from DeS to Dread?

Feel like I have one foot in the grave.

 

[Stu Benedict]

1986: Metroid is released and trailblazes exploration based platforming.

1997: SotN reimagines the metroid formula as a gothic RPG, so successfully so, the genre becomes "Metroid-Vania".

2009: Demons Souls, nails the Castlevania experience - in 3D, as a-tough-as-nails action game that revolutionizes 3D combat/progression and launches it's own "Souls-Like" genre.



2021: Metroid Dread is the Souls-Like-Metroid-Vania we've all been waiting for. the king is back baybee

'metroidvania' was applied to the genre in the mid-late 00s. at first, metroidvania was used to describe castlevania games that were like metroid. actionvania was the term used at the same time to apply to castlevania games that were like bloodlines/super castlevania iv/etc.

 

[Stu Benedict]

Wow it’s really the same amount of time between SotN and DeS as it is from DeS to Dread?

Feel like I have one foot in the grave.

metroid dread is closer to metroid prime than metroid prime is to the building of the great pyramids.

 

[Supreme Overlord]

What Metroid could learn from Dark Souls:

There's actually some shared DNA between the series. A moody, core experience traversing an interconnected world, with plot not shoved down your throat but rather story told through what you do and the backstory you find through the environment.

Dark Souls isn't afraid to be itself, and enough of that bears similarities to Metroid that the lesson is obvious:

Metroid should understand itself and lean into that, not be afraid to use what it actually is as the calling card for an audience, rather than radically reinventing itself for an audience that might not come.

To go, courageously, into that dark cavern and to beckon others to follow.

Perhaps Metroid was the Dark Soul of video games all along?

 

[Pascal]

Contra is some boomer shit.

What is the opposite of "Yeah!"