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StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)

If 8N was back on the table I would definitely expect a 2023 release at the latest, if it not being out already, just based on production capacity and schedules.
I think the device probably has been delayed one or more times, but not the SOC. Evidence suggests Drake finished early last year, which lines up perfectly with the original release window we heard from Nate.

All speculation about Drake should be made with this in mind. Its a long finished SOC.
 
I think the device probably has been delayed one or more times, but not the SOC. Evidence suggests Drake finished early last year, which lines up perfectly with the original release window we heard from Nate.

All speculation about Drake should be made with this in mind. It’s a long finished SOC.
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if the Wii U failed by every single metric it at least succeeded in delivering the most comfortable ever controller with a screen. i could care less if the Switch Next is bulbous, ugly, round, big etc. i'm trying to play games on this thing not enter a fashion show. and please not glossy, please no!
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I think the device probably has been delayed one or more times, but not the SOC. Evidence suggests Drake finished early last year, which lines up perfectly with the original release window we heard from Nate.

All speculation about Drake should be made with this in mind. Its a long finished SOC.
I was referring specifically to the SoC, as that’s the bit I know the most. Where do you think/speculate the device has been delayed?
 

I’ve just finished reading the English q&a, I’m not going to copy any quotes but my reading of it is they clearly are sticking with the current Switch models in the short term (up to holidays) and probably for the whole of this FY (so to March 2024).
I was originally gonna wait until June/July, but I’m calling it for myself now and resigning from #Team2023. Apologies to the rest of the team, it’s been fun 🤩
 
I was in a social-media-lockdown for the last two weeks to avoid spoilers for Zelda…anything new for [Redacted] besides all the job listings DrTre found?
 
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i think it’s pretty clear that investors want to hear about switch 2 just as much as we do from reading that translation, i don’t remember if the previous q&as had as much focus on hardware/next-gen as this one. whether or not we get anything this year, as far as official announcements are concerned, is up in the air…the positive is i get more time to save money up if it is indeed next year lol
 
I’ve just finished reading the English q&a, I’m not going to copy any quotes but my reading of it is they clearly are sticking with the current Switch models in the short term (up to holidays) and probably for the whole of this FY (so to March 2024).
I was originally gonna wait until June/July, but I’m calling it for myself now and resigning from #Team2023. Apologies to the rest of the team, it’s been fun 🤩
My reading isn’t quite so bleak!
 
My prediction is that they will have hands on preview of Switch 2 at Gamescom, just a theory.

Since Gamescom is after ToTK & Pikmin 4, and booking a floor for such big convention… to show off F-Zero(no disrespect but it’s over 20 yrs old racing game) doesn’t sit right with me.

I could be wrong, and maybe they will just promote some random games like Switch Sports. But if I had to make a bet for Mariah Carey Profile Pic, I’d say Switch 2 reveal.

And later in September followed by a general Direct.

They have a whole floor at Gamescom? o_O

After reading the Q&A, they seem confident about making a big push this holiday to reach their hardware and software targets.

My guess is they'll probably release at least 4 titles in H2, not counting Pikmin, alongside TotK DLC. 3 AA cash-grabs that cater to long-time fans and one nice big surprise.
 
I’ve just finished reading the English q&a, I’m not going to copy any quotes but my reading of it is they clearly are sticking with the current Switch models in the short term (up to holidays) and probably for the whole of this FY (so to March 2024).
I was originally gonna wait until June/July, but I’m calling it for myself now and resigning from #Team2023. Apologies to the rest of the team, it’s been fun 🤩


It can come at any time. Furukawa said the announcement won't be as preemptive as NX/Switch for obvious reasons. I'm saying at least a 6 month window between announcement and launch.
 
I was referring specifically to the SoC, as that’s the bit I know the most. Where do you think/speculate the device has been delayed?
Only thing I know is that it doesnt make sense to target 2022 for a soc that wont be in an actual product before 2024 at the earliest. So I assume theres been delays in other aspects of the systems development.
 
I'd be surprised by any official comment/statement regarding hardware made this year. It's not an impossibility but I'm not expecting any such action.

I'm not anticipating any official public communication until next FY -- once mass production nears or begins (April to June 2024 window).

I'll welcome a surprise.
So, do you think Nintendo will launch it for 2024 holidays? And for what reason they stop to announce games for current switch and what they will sell for that 1 and half year for switch not lost the momentum?
 
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Nintendo has no plan for a price cut for Nintendo Switch, despite the sales of the console slowing down

Well, announcing a price cut before actually cutting it is a good way to slow down sales even further. So I don't trust them.

With that said, they still aren't bundling a game with each console, so I'd expect that first before a price drop.
 
The only way they can sell a lot of hardware units during the Holidays is that they either release a 2D Mario (maybe bundled with the OLED) or release a successor.

At least, that’s how I see it
 
I’ve just finished reading the English q&a, I’m not going to copy any quotes but my reading of it is they clearly are sticking with the current Switch models in the short term (up to holidays) and probably for the whole of this FY (so to March 2024).
I was originally gonna wait until June/July, but I’m calling it for myself now and resigning from #Team2023. Apologies to the rest of the team, it’s been fun 🤩

Yeah...

'Currently, there are no plans to reduce the price of our hardware during this fiscal year.'
There will be no price reduction for the old Switch to exist alongside a new hardware.

'This fiscal year started with the theatrical opening of The Super Mario Bros. Movie and we also plan to release the latest entry in The Legend of Zelda series [...] Our aim is to leverage this momentum into maximizing sales during the holiday season to achieve our sales plans.'
Sale forecast quite optimistic (mostly) due to the Mario movie and Zelda TotK momentum.

'We expect the OLED model [...] to represent a larger portion of hardware sales during this fiscal year.'
A new Switch launched in H2 2023 would wipe out anything sales wise.

I was hopeful first thanks to the last question but I'm getting some bad vibes from it now.
Every of those quotes are open to interpretation so I'm not resigning from #Team2023 yet though. I'm waiting for desperately empty Nintendo direct in June for that.
 
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The Q&A has good news for people worried about Nintnedo "emtering uncharted terriotiry".

Six years have passed since the launch of Nintendo Switch, and cumulative sales have exceeded 120 million units. In the history of our dedicated video game platform business, we have never anticipated sales of 15 million units of hardware and 180 million units of software in the seventh year for a system, so we see ourselves as having entered uncharted territory
 
So you care a lot? Now I'm confused...
It's like how "the proof is in the pudding" is short for "the proof of the pudding is in the tasting."

"I could care less" is short for "I could care less, but I refuse, because I'm a stubborn asshole." That's technically accurate in most cases where somebody says "I couldn't care less." They could, but they won't.
 
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I think mochi jumped too many steps as he has in the past. if this was a couple years ago, then maybe it would have been more clearly nintendo. but now, there are many companies making "gaming handhelds" from Valve, to Asus, to Aya, Ayn, GPD, Logitech, etc. even Sony is back in the fray with the Q Lite. not to mention Sharp's very slides posits VR and Gaming handhelds together, so a VR headset would count as a gaming device if you wanted to twist words.

I'm not ruling out Nintendo, but I get the feeling Mochi is ego driven here. he's been handed some Ls lately and he's gonna scrap for ever W he thinks he can get. his position is safe because he hasn't been touched despite the slips so why not throw some punches just for one connection?
That's a fair concern and a good point. The reason why I discounted the Aya Neos and ASUS ROG Allys of this world is #1 volume #2 business model. These laptop PCs in a Switch-like casing usually take off the shelf parts and cram it into a design and they're positioned as niche premium products. I don't even see Steamdeck being high enough in volume for Sharp to be involved, in anycase, all these manufacturers would be better served just taking advantage of the competitive LCD landscape and find a low bidder

The only potential contender here is Sony or maybe Microsoft. But the reason why I settled with Nintendo is the fact that this unnamed manufacter going out of its way to work with SHARP suggests the display will be proprietary in some way, and while I hope it's not another gimmick, what comes to mind immediately that isn't a primary concern for most other manufacturers in this space is power consumption. And that would be something Nintendo wants. And Nintendo has had a history of working with LCD manufacturers for their screens.

All that said, I agree, Mochi may be taking another leap into the abyss, but I'll fall into the pit with him on this one if he is wrong again.
 
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What Furukawa says about rising costs makes you think about a possible use of an LCD screen even if I have trouble imagining Nintendo going back on OLED technology.

I continue to hope for an announcement of the switch 2 in early 2024 with a release at the beginning of the next fiscal year. I don’t see why new hardware couldn’t come out outside the end of the year.

I mean, it’s not like launching the console in the spring prevents you as a consumer from offering it to you at Christmas anyway.

There would have been so much sense to release New Super Mario Bros 3 (sorry) at the same time as the movie that I can’t imagine that it wasn’t deliberately kept for the 2023 holiday season. The fact that in the last Nintendo briefing there is talk of Mario game sales is not insignificant either. A new OLED sold in bundle with a new 2D Mario would certainly land under many Christmas trees.
 
It's good but doesn't feel as perfect in my hands, lacks analogue triggers and has no colour.
Waveband still the Champ.
Would be nice of Nintendo to bring back analog triggers but lack of analog triggers is certainly preferable to the several ways that the GameCube controller was lacking. The button and stick layout was good for games where you want to use exactly one analog stick and 1 or 2 face buttons most of the time but any other kind of game (games where you wanted to play dual analog or with the d pad most of the time and games where you aren’t necessarily using the same 1 or 2 face buttons most of the time) it was terrible.
 
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The fact that in the last Nintendo briefing there is talk of Mario game sales is not insignificant either.
A counter argument would be that they mentioned them because of the Movie, no correlation with a possible 2D or 3D Mario game release.

A new OLED sold in bundle with a new 2D Mario would certainly land under many Christmas trees.
If by “new OLED” you mean another themed console, then I don’t think so. There was a leaker that stated that the OLED would get two additional themed consoles besides the Splatoon one (which have been Pokemon and Zelda). Assuming it’s the true, we’ll just get an OLED bundled with the new Mario game

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It can come at any time. Furukawa said the announcement won't be as preemptive as NX/Switch for obvious reasons. I'm saying at least a 6 month window between announcement and launch.
Yes, it can come with 6 months, or less, notice. No, it cannot come this calendar year
 
Yeah...

'Currently, there are no plans to reduce the price of our hardware during this fiscal year.'
There will be no price reduction for the old Switch to exist alongside a new hardware.

'This fiscal year started with the theatrical opening of The Super Mario Bros. Movie and we also plan to release the latest entry in The Legend of Zelda series [...] Our aim is to leverage this momentum into maximizing sales during the holiday season to achieve our sales plans.'
Sale forecast quite optimistic (mostly) due to the Mario movie and Zelda TotK momentum.

'We expect the OLED model [...] to represent a larger portion of hardware sales during this fiscal year.'
A new Switch launched in H2 2023 would wipe out anything sales wise.

I was hopeful first thanks to the last question but I'm getting some bad vibes from it now.
Every of those quotes are open to interpretation so I'm not resigning from #Team2023 yet though. I'm waiting for desperately empty Nintendo direct in June for that.
I don't think Drake would harm the Switch's sales that much during its launch period, especially if there's cross-gen and if it's ~$400. I also don't think that the majority of the average consumer is willing to upgrade immediately to a more expensive product that can play more or less the same games as the cheaper, more readily available alternative. I foresee Drake being sold as a premium product for at least the first two years of it's life, so that would give Switch a little more room to breath and to slowly ease Switch owners into upgrading, while enthusiasts and other early adopters do the heavy lifting in terms of sales.
 
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1) A counter argument would be that they mentioned them because of the Movie, no correlation with a possible 2D or 3D Mario game release.


2)If by “new OLED” you mean another themed console, then I don’t think so. There was a leaker that stated that the OLED would get two additional themed consoles besides the Splatoon one (which have been Pokemon and Zelda). Assuming it’s the true, we’ll just get an OLED bundled with the new Mario game
1) Of course. But anyway the positive reactions of people can only confirm the impact of the film on the games, which was exactly the strategy of Nintendo from the beginning. So I guess whatever happens, there’ll be a renewed interest in Mario next Christmas. It can only reinforce them in the idea that has always been to see their diversification as the creation of contact points. That’s why I think that in line with this strategy an emphasis has surely already been put on next Christmas, hence my assumption of a new game, partly also because I’m very tired of hearing that Nintendo will no longer release any game and will become an escort agency or something.

2) Oh I didn’t know that. We already have a classic model with Mario odyssey, I would have found it cool, in the obviously unconfirmed hypothesis that a new Mario is the great end of year game on Nintendo switch, that there may be a final model of the Switch OLED to boost sales.
 
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So a small update to this:

Chapter 5 is supposedly starting November/December


Based on all the info that came out from the Epic and Apple battle, we know Fortnite on Switch is abiut the 4th biggest revenue generator and is at about 10% of earnings.

It is hard for me to believe that they will just accept a 10% drop in earnings unless a new Switch is on the immediate horizon when the current version they have runs fine.
 
Yes, it can come with 6 months, or less, notice. No, it cannot come this calendar year

Oh it can. Not saying it will, but seeing as how Switch was shown off for the first time in October 2016 and then released in March 2017 says that they can absolutely have a short turnaround from reveal to release, and its been even shorter with revisions like the Lite and OLED. Its not like them giving us a code name for the next hardware means much, we all agree that Nintendo has been working on new hardware for quite some time. This may not turn out to be relevant, but it might be, so I will ask you or anyone really, it is May 12th 2023 and we only have one first party title from Nintendo dated for release. A console in its seventh year on the market and we do not know what titles are coming out later this year. Why is Nintendo being so secretive about the second half lineup? They obviously have things to show off of they wouldn't be going to Gamescom.
 
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