StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (New Staff Post, Please read)

[volcsia]

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[woodhead]

Im a bit of a PS3 fanatic so lemme just give a brief explanation:
The OG fat PS3's branding was black with red accents (and the ps logo was red, yellow, blue, green)
Both hardware revisions branding were black with blue and black ps logo.
Also for a very brief period some PS3 games had a blue banner, and it looked a bit like the vita boxes

Quoting my own post:

I looked up some pictures and mostly the default color design was white for Wii and Black for PS3 as you said, but the accent colors were blue for Wii (the console box had a bit of blue elements and inside the two boxes where alle the hardware was placed in was blue. The controller and disc drive LEDs also were blue (the disc drive LED always looked really cool to me).
The PS3 boxes were black (with a red stripe), white (PS3 slim, also with a red stripe which) or blue (super slim) and the controller LEDs were red. Some PS3 disc boxes also had one thin red stripe beneath the PS3 text/logo.
So I think that is why for me Wii and Wii U (which looked mostly the same as Wii from packaging and from the LEDs) always was blue and PS3 always was red.

The pictures I found:

Spoiler: Big pictures

 

[GargantuanOne]

So are we yea or nay on the factory leak?

 

[Hermii]

So are we yea or nay on the factory leak?

Neither.

 

[Sin & Punishment]

I am beginning to doubt Switch 2 will only be $400. OLED is already $350 so we think for $50 more we will get this new monster machine full of our hopes and dreams? It feels way too good to be true. I'm really starting to predict $500.

I doubt the base Switch Successor will have an OLED screen. Personally I could only see it being as high $500 if it did.

The Switch OLED could potentially get a discount once the Switch Successor releases, so the difference in price may not be $50 by then.

 

[nitroplum]

I doubt the base Switch Successor will have an OLED screen. Personally I could only see it being as high $500 if it did.

The Switch OLED could potentially get a discount once the Switch Successor releases, so the difference in price may not be $50 by then.

Sure, I'm still not convinced that a $100 gap is doable for Nintendo. Believe me, I would love for this thing to be $400. I'm just not so confident that's possible when looking at the list of specs and features supposedly in this.

 

[GargantuanOne]

Neither.

 

[Erika]

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[Hermii]

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[Thombias]

I got to thinking because let’s just have fun with it, shall we?


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Stirring a cauldron…

 

[Chinpokomon]

120hz I doubt. If only because I highly doubt even a single first-party game would ever target it.

It doesnt have to mean they ever make a 120fps game, but thanks to that panel they could make 40fps standard.

 

[Sin & Punishment]

Sure, I'm still not convinced that a $100 gap is doable for Nintendo. Believe me, I would love for this thing to be $400. I'm just not so confident that's possible when looking at the list of specs and features supposedly in this.

Others have mentioned it but if they do a SKU without a dock, I think it's possible to hit $400.

Then they could do a SKU with the dock for $450 or whatever.

 

[nitroplum]

Others have mentioned it but if they do a SKU without a dock, I think it's possible to hit $400.

Then they could do a SKU with the dock for $450 or whatever.

I highly doubt they would do a SKU without a dock. Especially if the theory around streaming from handheld to dock is real. Either way the new console will need a new dock.

 

[Hermii]

Either way the new console will need a new dock.

Yep, especially since its confirmed the new dock has a fan in it.

 

[Melpomene]

It doesnt have to mean they ever make a 120fps game, but thanks to that panel they could make 40fps standard.

Ooh, 40FPS as a standard would be really nice.

 

[Hermii]

Ooh, 40FPS as a standard would be really nice.

It would probably cause problems/ inconsistencies when Switching.

If it runs at 40fps in portable, how is the game supposed to know what display mode to run when your docking it?

It has to know if the docked display supports 40fps, and on the fly decide to run at 40 or 30 fps.

 

[Melpomene]

It would probably cause problems/ inconsistencies when Switching.

If it runs at 40fps in portable, how is the game supposed to know what display mode to run when your docking it?

It has to know if the docked display supports 40fps, and on the fly decide to run at 40 or 30 fps.

Likely true, unfortunately. I don't know how that sort of thing works well enough to judge how feasible it is, but it would at least be nice, if it were.

 

[skywake]

It would probably cause problems/ inconsistencies when Switching.

If it runs at 40fps in portable, how is the game supposed to know what display mode to run when your docking it?

It has to know if the docked display supports 40fps, and on the fly decide to run at 40 or 30 fps.

I don't see how this is anymore complicated than supporting resolutions higher than 1080p or supporting HDR. You can't guarantee what modes the TV will support, they have to be detected when you dock and the game adjusts accordingly

If they don't do this then we'll be stuck on 1080p/60fps docked and at that point I'm not sure what the point of having a docked mode is at all!

 

[Deleted member 6315]

I will never understand the hype about a 40 FPS mode. I'd rather not have a higher resolution and graphic details if I could get 60 FPS in return.

 

[Hermii]

I don't see how this is anymore complicated than supporting resolutions higher than 1080p or supporting HDR. You can't guarantee what modes the TV will support, they have to be detected when you dock and the game adjusts accordingly

I mean, you support one docked rendering mode regardless of display. If the display is 1080p, the content is downsampled. This is how any other console does it. If you play the ps5 pro on a 1080p tv, exactly the same content is rendered.

You cant do this with fps. If you are trying to run 40fps content on a 60hz screen, it causes all kinds of problems.

 

[Melpomene]

I will never understand the hype about a 40 FPS mode. I'd rather not have a higher resolution and graphic details if I could get 60 FPS in return.

The point of 40FPS is to be a natural middle ground between 30 and 60. And whether I "need" 60 depends heavily on the genre, personally.

 

[Sin & Punishment]

If they don't do this then we'll be stuck on 1080p/60fps docked and at that point I'm not sure what the point of having a docked mode is at all!

I think for most people, the point of docked mode is that they're playing it on a TV.

I don't think the average consumer pays much attention to any performance boost.

 

[MadaoDev893]

Personally I would hope for 1080p 60 docked native focus, with upscaling to a hopeful 1200/1440p. These days with TVs having upscalers included. And a 720p native 900p upscaled for the handheld.

 

[Hermii]

I think for most people, the point of docked mode is that they're playing it on a TV.

I don't think the average consumer pays much attention to any performance boost.

All the docked mode is supposed to do, is to compensate for a larger screen with lower pixel density. People might have noticed if you didn't do that, but won't notice if you do. That's the point.

Stuff like Bowsers Fury that doubles the fps, is an outlier.

 

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[Kise Ryota]

I am beginning to doubt Switch 2 will only be $400. OLED is already $350 so we think for $50 more we will get this new monster machine full of our hopes and dreams? It feels way too good to be true. I'm really starting to predict $500.

I would be surprised if the OLED had a BoM much higher than $220.

 

[Lelouch0612]

I think the factory leak is probably real and the reason why Nintendo might have been seduced by the formal "Switch 2" name is because it still allows some playfulness by also using is it as "Switch to" or "Switch too".

 

[nitroplum]

I think the factory leak is probably real and the reason why Nintendo might have been seduced by the formal "Switch 2" name is because it still allows some playfulness by also using is it as "Switch to" or "Switch too".

Switch 2 because it has 2 screens! /s

 

[Hermii]

I think the factory leak is probably real and the reason why Nintendo might have been seduced by the formal "Switch 2" name is because it still allows some playfulness by also using is it as "Switch to" or "Switch too".

Or because its an obvious pick,that would cause noone to wonder if its a revision/ new accessory for the switch or whatever. In spite of the megadrive 2.

 

[SimoQB]

Or because its an obvious pick,that would cause noone to wonder if its a revision/ new accessory for the switch or whatever. In spite of the megadrive 2.

Well yea, if it really is switch 2 they made the best choice, calling it like "super nintendo switch" or something else would've made parents think it's just an upgrade

 

[xotepho]

Switch 2 because it has 2 screens! /s

Where exactly did the 2 screens thing even come from, was there just like an OG fake hardware leak a while ago that thought it'd be a cool idea or something or... because it keeps popping back up

 

[TheRealSploge]

I think the factory leak is probably real and the reason why Nintendo might have been seduced by the formal "Switch 2" name is because it still allows some playfulness by also using is it as "Switch to" or "Switch too".

Switch Tuah

That sounds terrible, how do I delete this?

 

[SimoQB]

Where exactly did the 2 screens thing even come from, was there just like an OG fake hardware leak a while ago that thought it'd be a cool idea or something or... because it keeps popping back up

Idk and i hate the idea of double screen unless we can do a reverse wii u situation and still use the dock normally for 1 screen

 

[SimoQB]

Switch Tuah

That sounds terrible, how do I delete this?

You cannot

 

[xotepho]

Idk and i hate the idea of double screen unless we can do a reverse wii u situation and still use the dock normally for 1 screen

You hook up the 2 screen switch to the dock and it displays squished together like a ds emulator on the tv obviously

 

[SoldierDelta]

I think the factory leak is probably real and the reason why Nintendo might have been seduced by the formal "Switch 2" name is because it still allows some playfulness by also using is it as "Switch to" or "Switch too".

It isn't exactly a complex name for marketing. [CONSOLE] 2 is a tried and tested name with Playstation and basically every other object that isn't a Nintendo or Xbox system, so it isn't bad, and the marketing potential is kinda insane (albeit rather basic).

I think the only real limitation with the factory leak is that we're trusting the funcle that production of any kind has started. If that's the case, then the device must be days away from reveal. If we get to the end of this week specifically without anything in sight... I'm going to question what the hell is going on tbh.

 

[Puikko]

You hook up the 2 screen switch to the dock and it displays squished together like a ds emulator on the tv obviously

This is the most the inferior single-screen entities deserve

 

[Thombias]

Switch Tuah

That sounds terrible, how do I delete this?

Switch ZWEI

Getting some german in there to sound cool like how Sega did with Panzer Dragoon Zwei.

Or go full german and call it Nintendo SCHALTER ZWEI

 

[xotepho]

It isn't exactly a complex name for marketing. [CONSOLE] 2 is a tried and tested name with Playstation and basically every other object that isn't a Nintendo or Xbox system, so it isn't bad, and the marketing potential is kinda insane (albeit rather basic).

Yeah, the fact that everyone immediately named the successor "Switch 2" in their head shows that it'd be fine lol

 

[OniLgnd]

Yeah, the fact that everyone immediately named the successor "Switch 2" in their head shows that it'd be fine lol

The only reason most people refer to it as the Switch 2 is because that is just a lot easier to say than successor to the Nintendo Switch.

 

[Bonejack]

Dunno why it's still so "outlandish" if Nintendo would name it Switch 2.

It's not like they aren't shy of "reusing" console names. NES -> SNES, GB -> GBA, DS -> 3DS, Wii -> Wii U. The only outliers are N64 and Gamecube.

Of course, they didn't put some numeric follow-up on the names, but wether it's Super, Advance, U, they still relied on the predecessors "base" name.

So, why not just "2" for once? Especially when from hardware-design viewpoint, we're all expecting something that even average consumers can easily identify as a "Switch-like" device. ^^

Switch Tuah

That sounds terrible, how do I delete this?

You can edit your post, for example.

You can also self-reflect and be a better person in general and not post such shit ass sexist "jokes" to begin with.

 

[ganntro]

The only reason most people refer to it as the Switch 2 is because that is just a lot easier to say than successor to the Nintendo Switch.

Still think it fits just right. Every other suggestion has kinda made me roll my eyes a bit, simple and effective imo.

 

[fwd-bwd]

 

[SwitchEmUp]

We have a few hours remaining until we know it won't be the 19th. Hope we do get an announcement of the hardware reveal trailer though.

 

[OniLgnd]

Dunno why it's still so "outlandish" if Nintendo would name it Switch 2.

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So, why not just "2" for once?

I think you answered your own question. Nintendo has never done it before. Doesn't mean they won't in the future, I think chances are pretty high they call it the Switch 2. But the reason a lot of people are skeptical is because across decades of system releases Nintendo has not once ever just thrown a 2 onto a system name and called it a day.

 

[Nathair]

Would y’all wait for an oled model if launch sku isn’t ? Or get it anyway but keep it permanent docked

It wouldn't change anything for me, because I already have an OLED TV to which my consoles are connected and I play 80% in docked mode. I've always preferred the immersion that a large screen gives me. Also, from experience with both video games and TV series and films, I can also say that HDR is definitely more appreciable on a TV, so even if the Switch 2 screen doesn't support it, I wouldn't make a drama out of it. The thing that makes me feel calm and positive about the Switch 2 is that this time it really has so many arrows to its bow in terms of technology. It's a console that will definitely and generally perform better on a 4K TV than its predecessor. The resolution, reconstructed with DLSS, will always be high enough, so you don't risk having to display 720p or lower on a large 4K screen. With Switch 1 it happened, then of course the artistic style in some games made even those games look beautiful. For example, Yoshi runs at 720p, but it's still beautiful to look at. In any case, the Switch 2 will already be in a better position from the start, and for many who want to play primarily on TV, this is great news!

 

[Bonejack]

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[karmitt]

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[OniLgnd]

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Obviously no idea how real that is, but I would be very happy if that is what it looked like.

 

[SwitchEmUp]

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