Dark Cloud
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Yep. This is how it will play out in our hearts
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Tentacle-tropes
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I think the simplest answer was always a FY26 release regardless of what hearsay was/is saying. If we look back over the last 4yrs of rumours & speculation then I think it bears out.
They didn’t take advantage because the device was not ready for release. Had they rushed this to the market it may have done more damage than just waiting. Looking at the current market, who exactly is giving them competition that really takes away focus & profits. PS is about the only & even then it hasn’t really mattered this gen. Meanwhile releasing one year early does little to fix a supposed gap in another company making a more modern/powerful device.
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NateDrake
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And my opinion is still H1 2025 -- shall see if Gamescom chatter changes it. No report or claim this week has moved a single thing beyond H1 2025. If anything, the claims simply back the report from Nikkei early this yr saying that March was the earliest release possibility. Little to nothing has changed time wise.
Dark Cloud
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But somehow people are dooming and glooming and it’s annoying
NateDrake
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Such is the way of the internet and outlets are reporting it as such, too. There was never a definitive report saying "it will launch in March" to my knowledge.
Even recent suggestions don't mean March cannot happen -- they are simply reporting that this FY is looking less likely based on conversations they have had. Is the gap between March and an April-June release that significant to the consumer?
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Outlets — Switch 2 not coming before the next fiscal year
Internet — OMG Switch 2 launching on holidays 2025
Kevin
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In my personal opinion, the Switch 2 will have to go into manufacturing really soon if Nintendo is targeting a Spring release. Especially if they want to have enough to combat scalpers as Nintendo has mentioned. We definitely will get reports when it goes into manufacturing. I think if nothing is announced by September or October in terms of manufacturing is concerned then yeah I'm on the Team Late 2025 bandwagon. Hopefully we get some kind of update soon.
Nothing's been "decided" because nothing is truly been confirmed; but any delay is almost certainly because of the games. Nintendo wants, needs, to have the biggest launch they can. It's not enough to have a ton of consoles to combat scalpers if the games aren't interesting.
I'm almost certain that any delays whatsoever is because the games are still cooking and they want to have as many bangers as possible.
Whether Spring or Summer 2025, they'll have to start on mass production sometime this year.
I remain confident we'll at least see a picture of the console this year and a name as well. That should go a long way to satisfying people until next year.
navierStokes
Koopa
Nice DF video about VRR and its advantages, misconceptions about performance, but also a recap of what it can provide.
It's not a silver bullet and a high variance or stutter can still impede in the gaming experience.
Obviously, we've discussed VRR and its application on mobile phones with 120Hz displays, but consoles these days have also been providing it.
I think Nintendo can still enable it for third party developers, and maybe they'll take advantage of it, but they're also great at providing consistent frametimes in quite a few of their games and having more power may put them over the threshold for their larger games (e.g. BOTW sized).
It's not a silver bullet and a high variance or stutter can still impede in the gaming experience.
Obviously, we've discussed VRR and its application on mobile phones with 120Hz displays, but consoles these days have also been providing it.
I think Nintendo can still enable it for third party developers, and maybe they'll take advantage of it, but they're also great at providing consistent frametimes in quite a few of their games and having more power may put them over the threshold for their larger games (e.g. BOTW sized).
Tentacle-tropes
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They will never have enough to combat scalpers. Even if they wanted to they won’t have the manufacturing capacity to do so. I fully expect scalpers to be present for the first year of Redacted.
When it comes to the release plans is it possible some 3rd party partners (who have kits) are in the know but others aren't? I feel like the answer is yes but I have no clue tbh.
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I would sooner be happier with a Q1 2026 than a Q4 2025 launch
Dark Cloud
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LMAO
NateDrake
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It's complicated.
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Apenknul
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True, but weren't there reports of Q1 2025? Or am I confusing that with something else?
yeah I figured as much. I just don't know how Nintendo or any of the console manufacturers relay info about release to partners. When do they tell all of them the exact date or month of planned release. Is it staggered? Do they try to control who gets priority at launch and launch window thus leading to them to tell some partners more exact info but leave others hanging for a little while longer?
I'm just rambling cause I find this kind of stuff interesting, I do not expect an answer to any question I posed here haha.
KarlRemarx
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Well I trust them completely, which is why I can't wait for Switch 2. After all, since 2023 we've had nothing from Nintendo since TOTK except a Mario game from EPD's C-team. Just as predicted.
No, all 3rd party game development for Switch 2 happens behind closed doors at Gamescom once a year, so they have to wait patiently for that. That's also when they brief leakers about the software they're working on for this unrevealed hardware, so if you don't hear from them it can only mean Nintendo has experienced collective amnesia, forgot how to code, and late 2025 is happening and everything is doomed.
golfinhovoador
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Am I missing a joke here?
Switcharoo
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Didn't GamesBiz talk about this back in May? Guess they were right??
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Nintendo forecast doesn't include Switch 2 before April 2025
Nintendo has confirmed that the 13.5 million console units it expects to sell before March 31, 2025 do not include sale…
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Nintendo Switch successor looks unlikely to launch before April 2025
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goombaicebro
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You do realize that they were right back in february when they killed all our dreams for a 2024 release date for Switch? Everyone here denied that at first as well if you remember.
I don't know what to believe anymore but I will say I can't remember when a console launched earlier than rumors would suggest regardless of how credible they may seem and Nintendo are the masters of the delay, although that's usually software related. Now this Dingle, Dingleberry, whatever his name is has been wrong plenty apparently when it comes to Nintendo recently so who knows. I think everyone is just getting tired of waiting for a release date or any kind of info from Nintendo regarding the next console, feels overdue at this point but maybe that's just me.
KeijiKG
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I don't like to think of it as having enough stock against scalping but rather having room for early adopters without the pressure of the Holiday rush. That and mirroring the release schedule MOST of their handhelds used to have (barring the DS and GBC) might not seem so bad if it means giving early adopters time to pick up Fall and Holiday releases. Speaking from wanting to repeat the original Switch's business model. Q4 release means having to compete with parents in the Holiday rush and that's foot traffic and pandemonium I'd rather not deal with picking up a Switch 2.
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Again, I feel like I am a hopeless optimist, but H1 is more than just March right?
bloopland33
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Can we acknowledge that this forum's obsession with hating on Dring is embarrassing? The constant clowning on him yesterday was ridiculous. And fallacious - who gives a shit if he thought there wouldn't be a Direct or he said Wonder was by the C team. That has no bearing on the fact that, if he says he has developer contacts telling him something, he...may in fact have developer contacts telling him something.
Even with the Eurogamer report this morning, the contortion to dismiss Dring in light of the corroboration is silly. It really shouldn't require a great effort for an adult to acknowledge that a journalist got something right, even if it's a journalist they "don't like."
I'm not saying this to defend Dring, but because the conversation around yesterday's news was a lot less focused than it could have been when everyone's taking time to repeat the same non-credentials of his. When it was pretty obvious based on his wording that there may actually be some substance to his report, barring him flat out lying.
So next time he has something to say I'm just hoping the discussion around the actual report can go better.
Even with the Eurogamer report this morning, the contortion to dismiss Dring in light of the corroboration is silly. It really shouldn't require a great effort for an adult to acknowledge that a journalist got something right, even if it's a journalist they "don't like."
I'm not saying this to defend Dring, but because the conversation around yesterday's news was a lot less focused than it could have been when everyone's taking time to repeat the same non-credentials of his. When it was pretty obvious based on his wording that there may actually be some substance to his report, barring him flat out lying.
So next time he has something to say I'm just hoping the discussion around the actual report can go better.
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Yes. Making fun of him is one thing, but the obsession we have around this guy weirds me out.
albumin
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Still maintaining my position that literally nothing has changed. The report from eurogamer (the only one i trust tbh) literally just confirms further the reports we heard back in february. H2 2025 didn't become any more or less likely, it was always possible but not likely. Still true, it could happen but counting on it and especially getting mad/sad about it is a lil silly. Everything we hear says, to put it all together, first couple months of the new year. March was never a specifically set out date by anyone except maybe brazil? even then we hear from him of them roughly imitating the switch schedule, which an april-june release still does.
This isn't a second internal delay, or even debunking previous more hopeful sources. It doesn't really say much that march, the earliest conceivable date, might not end up being the date. We knew that.
This isn't a second internal delay, or even debunking previous more hopeful sources. It doesn't really say much that march, the earliest conceivable date, might not end up being the date. We knew that.
golfinhovoador
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Yeah, I was thinking about dring, but I don't know if that person is joking or not
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omniryu
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Question, wasn't the official Switch reveal within 6 months from release? Outside of a handful of games, Nintendo always had a 6 months (or less) marketing campaign for any products post switch era. If they announce it in March, the latest, wouldn't that mean September would be the latest it will be released?
Would Nintendo miss a chance to put the Switch 2 in the super bowl commercial like they did for the original Switch? I think that's it is something they want to strive again and a March reveal is out of the question. They first demonstrated the Switch on Jimmy Kimmel December 7th 2016.
I am not saying we will get it March but I don't see holiday 2025 either.
I asked Chatgpt about the superbowl and Jimmy Fallon appearance.
BDGAME
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I'm tired to be optimistic about the Switch 2 announce, so now I will try to be realistic.
The first thing is to analise what Nintendo will delivery from now until march (the final month that they can announce it, since they confirm the announce will occur before the end of the fiscal year).
2024.August
First I was thinking that wold be cool if they announce it now, in August, since they only have a small game, but if they did it, it will be 8-9 moths until they really have the product on stocks. They don't need announce it so soon. So This month is out.
September they already have Zelda and a brand new Switch lite model to sell. They won't want to advertise something that will interfere with sales of their product this month. So, no September either.
October looks like a good month? First I think it was. Make the announce like the first Switch, plus I don't think Mario Party will be bothered by that announce. But When they did it, the focus of gamers will be only Switch 2, what can interfere on their next month's game.
November, With Mario and Luigi. That franchise already die once on the end of 3DS life and can die again if gamers don't buy it because they don't want play nothing more on their current switch. So, is better keep the focus and don't announce it this month either.
December is out because the holidays. Nintendo need people to focus on buy their products that month. And after that, the year already over.
Now January, with DK returns... I mean, that is the third time they release that game and this time they only change the models for the DK 2 and use a software to increase the texture resolutions. That game is only to fill a hole. Plus, January is where they have the only Direct of the first semester. If they don't announce it on that direct, they will need another event in 1 or 2 months that will overshadow the January Direct. That not make sense.
So, to be rational, what make sense right now is announce it in January to release it in May.
The first thing is to analise what Nintendo will delivery from now until march (the final month that they can announce it, since they confirm the announce will occur before the end of the fiscal year).
2024.August
29Emio – The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club™[Nintendo]
2024.September26 - Nintendo Switch Lite Hyrule Edition[Nintendo]
26 - The Legend of Zelda™: Echoes of Wisdom[Nintendo]
2024.October17 - Joy-Con Charging Stand (two-way)[Nintendo]
17 - Super Mario Party Jamboree[Nintendo]
2024.November07 - Mario & Luigi: Brothership[Nintendo]
2025.January16 - Donkey Kong Country Returns HD[Nintendo]
2025.TBDMetroid Prime 4: Beyond[Nintendo]
Pokémon Legends: Z-A[Nintendo]
First I was thinking that wold be cool if they announce it now, in August, since they only have a small game, but if they did it, it will be 8-9 moths until they really have the product on stocks. They don't need announce it so soon. So This month is out.
September they already have Zelda and a brand new Switch lite model to sell. They won't want to advertise something that will interfere with sales of their product this month. So, no September either.
October looks like a good month? First I think it was. Make the announce like the first Switch, plus I don't think Mario Party will be bothered by that announce. But When they did it, the focus of gamers will be only Switch 2, what can interfere on their next month's game.
November, With Mario and Luigi. That franchise already die once on the end of 3DS life and can die again if gamers don't buy it because they don't want play nothing more on their current switch. So, is better keep the focus and don't announce it this month either.
December is out because the holidays. Nintendo need people to focus on buy their products that month. And after that, the year already over.
Now January, with DK returns... I mean, that is the third time they release that game and this time they only change the models for the DK 2 and use a software to increase the texture resolutions. That game is only to fill a hole. Plus, January is where they have the only Direct of the first semester. If they don't announce it on that direct, they will need another event in 1 or 2 months that will overshadow the January Direct. That not make sense.
So, to be rational, what make sense right now is announce it in January to release it in May.
- 4 months after the announce
- 4th console on Switch's family
- 4 Tflops with all the good news that are leaked here
- 4 nm
- 400,00 dollars
- 4give if I forgot something,
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Fuck an October-November-December console release any and every year.
C_Ali
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I would think the lesson here is “If Nintendo doesn’t mention it directly, it doesn’t exist!”
Nintendo believes it doesn’t have to tell us because it never mentioned a switch 2. Only investor questions that ask about the successor get answers, although vague and noncommittal. Commercially (in Nintendo’s eyes) you only need to know when it’s imminent, and nothing else until it is.
omniryu
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December is an absolutely perfect time to reveal or market the Switch. You pretty much sold all the games you want.
frog
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CalmMind
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Oh how the mighty have fallen...
Evil Lucario
Star Successor
Gonna just echo what other people said and just tell people to focus on their backlogs. And still, Nintendo has a lot of good shit coming out soon and the games are all that matters.
You should play a good shmup. A good shmup changes lives.
You should play a good shmup. A good shmup changes lives.
P4bl0
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How about Nintendo never release it since they will always have something in the way ?
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I may be wrong, but didn't Nintendo announce the release window in the original Switch reveal? If they do the same for the Switch 2, and they reveal it this year, we may not have to wait too long to find out the actual Switch 2 launch window.
PeterPeters
Boo
I think is not a March to April-June gap (1-3 months), it's more like a November 2024 to April-June 2025 gap now (so 5-7 months). Mostly because these small supposed and reported delays don't reset, they just add together to form a greater gap between expectations and reality of the launch timing. That's on us.
Back during the February news, the general though was very similar: ''this is only a 3-4 month delay from November 2024 to March 2025 guys'' , ''is this gap between November and a March launch that significant to the consumer?'', etc.
This perceived delay for some people can even be of more than seven months, when you account the rumors from several sources in H2-2023 and January 2024 that there will be some kind of announcement about the successor in March 2024. Those reports set expectations of even a H1-2024 release, Q3-24 at the latest.
From my point of view, the successor's launch is looking like a psychological experiment from Nintendo, hehe. In which they're playing with us (including insiders, developers and reporters) to test our patience and sanity, I'm joking of course.
Let's see now if Bloomberg or Nikkei give us similar reports or additional details.
Giancarlo
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and i replied to him, theres no such thing as C- team, is EPD 10 and 8, for 2D and 3D Mario game, you are trying to find excuses when Super Mario Wonder become the best selling game of the franchise(15/20 milion)
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