Even if it was just a PS4 to PS4 Pro type of jump it would already sell faster than it can be produced as we have seen with the OLED that forced Nintendo to air drop consoles in NA because if not they had no stock for holidays.
I’m talking about the emulation issues caused with increasing resolution, like things rendering incorrectly, if they did DLSS the base resolution could stay 720p, avoiding new issues.
I just find it strange that Nintendo is suddenly going back to the Game Cube philosophy of "an equal but more powerful console" for a successor. I need to see something else, new and different, to truly believe it.
Hands down, best so far!
The only thing that would majorly effect any device would be saying that there is no backward or forward compatibility for anything.
The mistake is believing that they're internally considering it a successor.
I don't think using DLSS instead of increasing the resolution is going to make a significant difference in how the issues manifest. They just have to fix the core issues.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge about production line setup. I didn't mean to suggest a major manufacturing disruption, and have edited my post. Appreciate the input!
Then when they are going to do a change in the format or introduce something new? 2026, 2027? That would be so boring that my brain doesn't let me believe it.
I'm thinking closer to 2028-2029 actually.
I’m gonna ask @fwd-bwd , but I believe one of these isn’t correct. One of the leakers.
Having to deal with the same joycons, the same interface and the same online service until 2028 is a nightmare for me, tbh. I want something new and exciting.
Good thing you'll have a new Drake Switch that will likely change some or all of those things.
I don't really think that any revision have changed controls, online services or interface/home screen. I can only thing in that weird stick that New 3DS has.
New 3DS and DSi both changed controls and online services...
eShop will be the same between consoles same with most online services (but these will get updated they said they were investing almost 3b$ on them a year ago). But joycons/interface will almost for sure change with a new console
Tbh Nintendo probably isn’t going to change the device up wholly. They made add features like beaming to a TV or some minor stuff to keep it relatively fresh. The only big thing I can think of is Samsun’s foldable tech but that is so expensive & out there in terms of being useful in a machine currently.
That's what I'm saying, I don't expect the same level of improvement or change in a revision that in a new console. I'm totally adamant against the concept that a revision and a successor is the same, or that the public just see them as the same
That's a example of what I'm thinking. If they have to maintain the same size and form of joy-con because of add-ons, that's a limitation.
Nintendo with the Switch wanted to change the way they approached consoles and instead of the console itself being the focus of 'gimmicks' the focus is now on the user and giving them the freedom to decide what the Switch is. They do it with both the docked/handheld modes, allowing you to have a handheld or/and home console depending on what you prefer and the 'gimmicks' of the console you also choose them with most of them now being on peripherals like the ring con or LABO.
Well, we are not going to convince each other so we just have to wait and see what happens in the end.
Technically, the philosophy nintendo had during that console era was “the easiest and most straightforward path to develop for”. They built the whole GCN around the idea of being very easy for devs to get handson and make use of it without being over engineered or complicated. It wasn’t necessarily surrounded around the idea of power, but around the idea of ease. What happened was that at the time it being more powerful made it easier for devs too. I don’t believe they could’ve had anything that offered a smaller jump from point A (N64) to point B(GCN) that simplified the development process, and it was a byproduct not necessarily the main exact focus, it just happened to be more powerful and that was to their benefit not to their detriment so they lost nothing from it. Even mentioning it.
None of the alleged leaks was detailed enough to depict the extent of production line changes. So I edited my original post to clarify that it might not be a sizable disruption.
What is functionally the difference though? New UI, sure, new controller with additional capabilities that realistically did not require a new console, and then the increased performance (including the SSD). There's no real reason why Nintendo couldn't do comparable changes within what they consider the same generation
It's about that but also about perception. People know that when they buy a PS5 is "the box to play new games for six years or so".
Depends entirely on how they market it and the messaging they use, which is something we currently have zero information on.
I think they will try to market it like they did the switch and the 3ds, saying it's not a replacement(Right away), but another pillar to support the brand moving forward. And just slowly phase out the base models over a 2year period
There are multiple Factors.
I meant one of the leakers, I believe you said one of them isn’t actually credible?
The eShop will at least probably run much faster. Hopefully the eshop at leasts gets updated at some point to have better discoverability.
I think that that was DS, not 3DS. And that would be a little misleading (as it was with DS).
The hardwares not the problem. If they would have wanted to improve it, they could have done the last 5 years. If will run better by default, but im not even shure if their servers are not also a bottle cap.
The Switch only lets the eShop use a tiny amount of its resources, that’s why it’s painfully slow.
Thanks, noted!
Doesnt the OS get 1 core for itself and 500MB ram?
I vote for keeping the thread. It'll be even better to keep track of past discussions.
500MB is the absolute minimum, but it’s more like 750MB-1GB for the OS and 1 core.
Do we know how much material they were holding prior to the Switch Reveal? As if it was >50% like it is now that could be more indication.Thanks to @Vash_the_Stampede's input, I replaced the unconsolidated inventories data in my table with consolidated inventories. The data entries are also updated to bi-annual. Although Vash may very well be right that the stockpile of raw materials can be intended for the holiday stock, the very elevated level of raw materials still look suspicious to me. My comments below:
EDIT: Forgot to mention that Nintendo changed their accounting standard from 04/2021. Thus, their 09/2021 and 03/2022 inventories increased a bit (when compared to using the old accounting standard). It shouldn't impact the analysis because the increases are small, and affect only the finished goods (not work in progress or raw materials) if I understand it correctly. I'm not an accountant though. Note that I also made a small edit regarding the production line disruption for clarity.
- Since 03/2017 (the Switch era), the money tied up in raw materials never exceeded 9% of the total inventories, except at the following points:
- In 03/2019, before the Lite and v2 models entered production, the share of raw materials grew to 25.66%.
- In 03/2020, the level of raw materials rose to 19.28%, possibly due to the COVID factory shutdown.
- In 03/2021, before the OLED model entered production, the ratio went up to 14.46%. If not for the COVID logistic challenges, I suspect that the number could've been even higher.
- In 09/2021, the share of raw materials jumped to 35.52%. A couple potential explanations:
- Nintendo might be behind schedule to produce the holiday stock. (Furukawa did say that some of the holiday stock were shipped by plane and train.)
- They started stockpiling raw materials to preempt any future logistic disruptions.
- Or maybe both.
- The latest raw materials number from 03/2022 reached an eye-popping level of 52.80%—close to $800 million USDs!
- The large pile of materials may be in preparation of the holiday stock. However, in other years it never came close to this level.
- Again, the stockpiling may be intended to combat the global supply chain difficulties. But tying up half of their total inventories in raw materials seems excessive.
- Looking at the elevated level of raw materials in 03/2019 and 03/2021, it's plausible that Nintendo is again holding more materials in advance of a new model launch.
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- Considering the unprecedented amount of yens in raw materials, it's probably all of the above.
IIRC they weren't exactly prepared for the success the Switch saw out of the gate, so I doubt they took the risk of building up too much inventory.
yeah, i mentioned that, and thats the reason why they could have improved it if they wanted, ba replacing it with a System Update with an Native App.
