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Politics EU: Carmakers must cut CO2 emissions by 100% by 2035

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In a move that may not be as radical as most believe is needed, but definitely an improvement over current policy, the European Union has now agreed a law that effectively bans new petrol and diesel cars in its 27 countries as of 2035:


EU officials have recently been working on a variety of new European laws and regulations to combat climate change ahead of the 2022 United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP27) in Egypt next month. Yesterday, a deal was agreed between negotiators from national governments, the European Parliament, and the European Commission on a 100% reduction of CO2 emissions from car manufacturing. This is expected to speed up energy exchange in transportation, thus helping combat climate change.

To the same end, the deal also includes a 55% cut in CO2 emissions for new cars sold from 2030 onwards, much more ambitious than the existing target of a 37.5% reduction. Germany's Volkswagen had preemptively responded by declaring it will only produce electric cars in Europe from 2033.



Other agreements being worked on ahead of COP27 include expanding the union's CO2 absorption via "sinks" like forests and wetlands, and setting binding national emissions-cutting goals. Overall, the policy reform proposals are supposed to ensure Europe reaches its goal to cut net emissions by 55% by 2030 as compared to 1990 levels.

Scientists believe humanity needs to cut emissions by 45% by the end of the decade in order to reach the Paris Agreement's goal of less than a 1.5°C increase in temperature before the end of the century, itself controversial in environmentalist groups for not going far enough in combating climate change. Currently, we are heading towards a 2.5°C increase, which will incur disastrous consequences if left unchecked. If the EU does indeed manage to cut emissions by 55% by 2030, it will have gone beyond the goals set by the Paris Agreement. While it is up for debate whether that is enough still, it is definitely an improvement from current policies and plans.

Now we will have to see if they can deliver!​
 
Working together and using their collective power to do something real on climate change? What a bunch of do-gooders. Who would want to be part of such a union.
 
Mostly curious on whether they will be able to build a decent (fast) charging infrastructure by 2035 to maintain all those EVs, because good luck with that in rural areas especially. It is beyond shit rn.
 
Mostly curious on whether they will be able to build a decent (fast) charging infrastructure by 2035 to maintain all those EVs, because good luck with that in rural areas especially. It is beyond shit rn.

Yeah, that will definitely be a challenge. But I guess now they kind of have to, since this policy has been agreed upon. We're not in the Union, but we managed to get up a fairly good charging infrastructure here relatively quickly once we decided to work on it - but of course it's a very small area and we have an abundance of electricity. On the flip side, the EU and the collective national governments have much, much vaster resources, so all it should take really is a dedication to get it over the line and rolling up their sleeves.
 
Mostly curious on whether they will be able to build a decent (fast) charging infrastructure by 2035 to maintain all those EVs, because good luck with that in rural areas especially. It is beyond shit rn.
I don't understand where the need for an explicit (fast) charging infrastructure comes from, unless you don't have a garage, which is way less applicable in rural areas than in urban areas (which should switch to micromobility and public transportation anyway). Have a wall box set up in your garage, or, if you have a common garage, have it set up at your designated spot and you're mostly good to go.

Fast charging only comes into play when driving long distance and you need to bring your battery back up to a high capacity quickly so you can continue your journey.

EVs, generally, should be used as "last mile solutions" for people who live far away enough from public transit spots and building out transit, enabling micromobility/walkability should be the main focus as they're far more efficient in terms of transportation capacity and energy use and also less environmentally damaging.
 
There isn't only the issue of the charging infrastructure. In parallel, they will need to seriously ramp up the production of electricity based on renewables. That in itself is a monumental task, technically, financially and politically.
 
should've been 2025
There's no way that the sweeping changes across policy/infrastructure/development/research that would actually make 0% fossil fuel cars realistically happen can be done in just three years. The infrastructure changes to support the increased electrical demand that are net neutral/negative emissions alone will take longer than that to build.
 
There's no way that the sweeping changes across policy/infrastructure/development/research that would actually make 0% fossil fuel cars realistically happen can be done in just three years. The infrastructure changes to support the increased electrical demand that are net neutral/negative emissions alone will take longer than that to build.
every cent of capital should be thrown at electric trains

but that's just my opinion
 
every cent of capital should be thrown at electric trains

but that's just my opinion
Electric trains still need power to run them, and currently the EU is already in an energy crisis without this expansion.
But it's the correct one.

But I suppose some countries aren't ready for that particular conversation yet (looking at you, Germany).
Germany going full pants-on stupid by still insisting on coal power over nuclear power is probably one terrible reason why 2030 isn't in the cards.
 
Good luck to the EU, there needs to be so so so much more done to get ready for 100% electric cars to be sold. Even here in the US. As much as I want it, it's just not a feasible jump right now.
 
Good luck to the EU, there needs to be so so so much more done to get ready for 100% electric cars to be sold. Even here in the US. As much as I want it, it's just not a feasible jump right now.
A lot changes in 13 years.

Just think about it, 13 years ago, there wasn't even Wifi everywhere. The iPhone was just a few years old, and data was super slow. Now, you can download a ridiculous amount of data per second in major cities, and they are known as essential tools for current society.

How do you think stuff like Gas cars started too? Did people whine about the infrastructure not being feasible compared to trains? Hell no. They just did it. And I am sure there were a lot of problems getting that up and going, they were able to accomplish it. Just like we have to.

Especially considering running electric cars is so much cheaper, more reliable, and doesn't need to be reliant on a few handpicked companies. The market probably isn't going to want gas powered vehicles anymore.
 
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Germany going full pants-on stupid by still insisting on coal power over nuclear power is probably one terrible reason why 2030 isn't in the cards.
exasperated sigh

The nuclear exit was decided on by the Schröder government at the turn of the millennium as part of the coalition treaty between the Social Democrats and the Greens. This was then walked back by the first Merkel cabinet (2005-2009) and in 2011, pressure to exit nuclear energy was again rising after the Fukushima Daiichi disaster, which the Merkel II government (2009-2013) signed and then decided to stay with coal as the primary energy out of sheer laziness (or some other bizarre political calculation) instead of using the opportunity to go all-in on renewables. (Merkel's third cabinet also was active during the 2014 invasion of Ukraine after which we should've looked for alternatives to Russia's natural gas pronto but ended up doing nothing)

And going fully back to nuclear isn't going to work anymore, because a) we saw what happened with France's reactors this summer where they were forced to shut down due to lack of cooling water and b) it will be a VERY hard sell towards the German people who have cultivated a - maybe unreasonable - fear of nuclear energy for around three decades now.

Honestly, if there's something where I would actually lay blame at the feet of Germany is for not trying to push forth in a general reorganization of traffic (but that would be difficult under a conservative government) in favour of public transit and the German car industry (which is still one of the biggest in the world) sleeping on electric cars until Tesla and others came snapping at its heels. And y'know. Not using the interim to push forth renewables.
 


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