Rumour Alpha footage of the new "Animal Crossing-like" game from Hoyoverse has leaked

wait are people seriously saying this is an animal crossing killer?
 
also is that in very early stages because the graphics look....not good
 
Lugia667 said:
wait are people seriously saying this is an animal crossing killer?
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Kill? Hell no.

Presidentential candidates ran publicity campaigns through New Horizons. An IP of that size won’t be killed just like that.

However, Mihoyo is gigantic, and this game will bring much needed competition for Animal Crossing.

As others have highlighted, hopefully this’ll lead to less resting on laurels from Nintendo
 
eye0h said:
I think this could eclipse animal crossing I'm not even joking.
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Nintendo IPs competing with Mihoyo/Hoyoverse are anime style niche IP like Xenoblade and Fire Emblem.
Due to the success of Genshin, Dragalia died, XC3 and Engage did not sell, but TOTK which is not weeb is still selling lol.
 
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I know it's not the final thing but it's definitely not gripping me as much as Genshin and HSR have (I did drop both though, I think it was the grinding I needed to do to get things, not a fan despite the styles being pretty nice!) but I can definitely see a good portion of AC players at least checking this out. I feel like there is some overlap with Hoyoverse players and AC players, and if it taps into that cosy gaming market, I can see it doing well. Also don't Genshin and HSR have an incredible amount of users daily? I hope they do more than Nintendo has done so far with AC, I've been a player since Wild World but I really think it needs to continue the trajectory NH set and keep pushing the boundaries, but eh, it's looking a bit off right now for me
 
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The biggest threat that this game can pose to Animal Crossing is in two areas, personality and updates.

Nintendo is one of the worst in the industry when it concerns steady, meaty updates whilst Mihoyo is one of the best. Animal Crossing is also one of the few Nintendo series that has barely evolved since its first installment. With a huge amount of content, steady updates, and F2P, I could see this game devaluing the proposition of AC eventually.

Also, Nintendo went out of their way to neuter most of the personality in AC’s dialogue (and many other of their series to an extent). Mihoyo doesn’t seem to have this issue, but I doubt chibi anime girls will be as charming as the animals.
 
ILikeFeet said:
it's gonna make a lot of money, that's almost certain.

kill AC? eh...no whatever-killer has ever done so. most games kill themselves
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Yeah the phrase has been phased out and really not used because it really hasn't happened for real.
Even possibly the closest potential example EQ1/EQ2 vs WoW wasn't really WoW's killing EQ but EQ doing a lot of things wrong.
Even then, EQ didn't really die.

Speaking of which, remember when everything and anything was poised to be the next WoW killer.
That was a weird period in terms of gaming reporting.

Lugia667 said:
also is that in very early stages because the graphics look....not good
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The game hasn't been officially announced, so I assume it's not close to releasing at all.
Impossible to know if this is truly the art direction they're going with, but it's certainly not the final level of polish.
There were a couple moments here where the sound and visuals, an item being pulled out for example, were not even remotely in sync.
 
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Video game copy-cats have existed since the dawn of the entire industry. Between doom-likes, souls-likes, DMC-likes, and countless other’s it’s wild to see members of this forum acting like HoYo is the only one doing something that companies have been doing for ages.

There are, of course, valid concerns with gacha’s as a whole and the predatory nature of that type of game, but when someone is in here saying Nintendo shouldn’t allow a game on their console because it’s “copying them” is fucking wild. It’s not like there are, you know, dozens upon dozens of Metroidvania’s in the eshop or anything which was literally born from checks notes the Metroid series!

It honestly reeks of Sinophobia and it’s just kind of gross.
 
Truno said:
The biggest threat that this game can pose to Animal Crossing is in two areas, personality and updates.

Nintendo is one of the worst in the industry when it concerns steady, meaty updates whilst Mihoyo is one of the best. Animal Crossing is also one of the few Nintendo series that has barely evolved since its first installment. With a huge amount of content, steady updates, and F2P, I could see this game devaluing the proposition of AC eventually.

Also, Nintendo went out of their way to neuter most of the personality in AC’s dialogue (and many other of their series to an extent). Mihoyo doesn’t seem to have this issue, but I doubt chibi anime girls will be as charming as the animals.
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This is very true, I understand the pandemic meant more were playing AC more than Nintendo perhaps initially assumed, but knowing the updates for NH were so few and then we got the paid DLC as a last hurrah felt pretty bleak as a player. I'd sunk a lot of hours into previous games so Nintendo going cold on a game that had more community for the franchise than ever was pretty disheartening. Seeing Hoyoverse constantly updating with their games is initially what drew me to at least trying them out, so maybe an AC-like game may give Nintendo a push to actually roll out a lot more and substantial updates for future AC games than NH (and the others) ever got
 
Truno said:
Nntendo is one of the worst in the industry when it concerns steady, meaty updates whilst Mihoyo is one of the best.
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And thank goodness for that! Nintendo mostly evading the live service forever-game business model is one of the few bright spots left in today's AAA gaming industry. Very sad to see gacha games and predatory game design be rewarded.
 
dolpic said:
And thank goodness for that! Nintendo mostly evading the live service forever-game business model is one of the few bright spots left in today's AAA gaming industry. Very sad to see gacha games and predatory game design be rewarded.
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Nintendo has embraced the live service business model. Release new entries at full price with a fraction of the content of predecessors, only to promise free updates that’ll eventually make the base game reach the parity of previous entries. After that, they move on
 
Nintendo will certainly GAAS its games as much as possible in the next generation. Otherwise, third-party GAAS will flood into NS2 and absorb all the money.

Meanwhile, Nintendo should restrict GAAS third-party games on their platform.

I don't want to see people say that competition between GAAS drives game progress anymore, this is the funniest joke.
GAAS will indeed compete with each other, competing for who has better community managers, more advertising, better marketing, and who has higher sunk costs.
 
Truno said:
The biggest threat that this game can pose to Animal Crossing is in two areas, personality and updates.

Nintendo is one of the worst in the industry when it concerns steady, meaty updates whilst Mihoyo is one of the best. Animal Crossing is also one of the few Nintendo series that has barely evolved since its first installment. With a huge amount of content, steady updates, and F2P, I could see this game devaluing the proposition of AC eventually.

Also, Nintendo went out of their way to neuter most of the personality in AC’s dialogue (and many other of their series to an extent). Mihoyo doesn’t seem to have this issue, but I doubt chibi anime girls will be as charming as the animals.
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You are really overestimating the number of New Horizons dissenters that are willing to play a predatory waifu game. The dialogue thing is a non-issue outside of online bubbles.

I swear this entire discussion is like when Rebel Moon and Snyder were totally going to show evil greedy Star Wars how it's done! but in the end nobody cared about that crap film. At least in that case, I could give credit to SW anti-fans in that Disney has made several mistakes with the franchise and this has resulted in some bleeding; but in the case of AC, I don't how terminally online you have to be to believe that New Horizons was some massive blunder that most of the playerbase hated.
EDIT: just to be clear, I'm not implying that this game will have a similar reception to Rebel Moon, but that in both cases there isn't a significantly sized market of ex-fans with fringe opinions that they could be benefitting from.
 
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Yzz said:
You are really overestimating the number of New Horizons dissenters that are willing to play a predatory waifu game. The dialogue thing is a non-issue outside of online bubbles.

I swear this entire discussion is like when Rebel Moon and Snyder were totally going to show evil greedy Star Wars how it's done! but in the end nobody cared about that crap film. At least in that case, I could give credit to SW anti-fans in that Disney has made several mistakes with the franchise and this has resulted in some bleeding; but in the case of AC, I don't how terminally online you have to be to believe that New Horizons was some massive blunder that most of the playerbase hated.
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You don't understand Animal Crossing is doomed now because of this game, it'll sell 10 million copies in its first weekend instead of 10.1 million
 
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Yzz said:
You are really overestimating the number of New Horizons dissenters that are willing to play a predatory waifu game. The dialogue thing is a non-issue outside of online bubbles.

I swear this entire discussion is like when Rebel Moon and Snyder were totally going to show evil greedy Star Wars how it's done! but in the end nobody cared about that crap film. At least in that case, I could give credit to SW anti-fans in that Disney has made several mistakes with the franchise and this has resulted in some bleeding; but in the case of AC, I don't how terminally online you have to be to believe that New Horizons was some massive blunder that most of the playerbase hated.
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I don’t think that every AH is gonna be enticed to play this game, just like I didn’t think that Pokemon fans would be enticed to play Palword (not sure anyone is nowadays).

But with it being present in more platforms, and offering something that is currently desperately wanted by AC fans, I could see how the discourse would turn sour in AC’s favor. The impact won’t be major, but it’s good for the consumer that Nintendo has competition.

I never said that this game would kill Animal Crossing nor did I say that it would fail in result to this lol
 
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Truno said:
Nintendo has embraced the live service business model. Release new entries at full price with a fraction of the content of predecessors, only to promise free updates that’ll eventually make the base game reach the parity of previous entries. After that, they move on
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Releasing bare bones beta versions of sports or AC games isn't good, but I wouldn't say it's live service. More like early access. These games lack the compulsion-feeding design elements like battle passes that are designed to keep people hooked even when they're not having fun. Sadly, Splatoon is the most egregious Nintendo franchise about this, but I haven't seen any other of their games stoop to the same level.
 
dolpic said:
Releasing bare bones beta versions of sports or AC games isn't good, but I wouldn't say it's live service. More like early access. These games lack the compulsion-feeding design elements like battle passes that are designed to keep people hooked even when they're not having fun. Sadly, Splatoon is the most egregious Nintendo franchise about this, but I haven't seen any other of their games stoop to the same level.
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Switch Sports pursued this strategy, included a battle pass, mandatory online, and sportsmates (okay these don’t fit the argument but they’re atrocious)
 
Truno said:
The biggest threat that this game can pose to Animal Crossing is in two areas, personality and updates.

Nintendo is one of the worst in the industry when it concerns steady, meaty updates whilst Mihoyo is one of the best. Animal Crossing is also one of the few Nintendo series that has barely evolved since its first installment. With a huge amount of content, steady updates, and F2P, I could see this game devaluing the proposition of AC eventually.

Also, Nintendo went out of their way to neuter most of the personality in AC’s dialogue (and many other of their series to an extent). Mihoyo doesn’t seem to have this issue, but I doubt chibi anime girls will be as charming as the animals.
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I mean its because Nintendo development structure is not formed around making constant updates to completed games. The way Nintendo developers work is that they jump around to different Nintendo projects all the time. When Nintendo developers are finished working on a game they get moved around working on other Nintendo games. Nintendo are not the size where they can have hundreds of their developers that only continues working on an already finished game like Mihoyo does with games like Genshin. That would sabotage Nintendo development pipelines for new games.
 
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Truno said:
Switch Sports pursued this strategy, included a battle pass, mandatory online, and sportsmates (okay these don’t fit the argument but they’re atrocious)
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I didn't know that, that is quite disappointing. Still, back to the original point here - I would rather not see Nintendo further adopt this hoyoverse method of continuous development updates. The original gamecube animal crossing didn't need any updates, let's just have games be released when they're finished.
 
Truno said:
Nintendo has embraced the live service business model. Release new entries at full price with a fraction of the content of predecessors, only to promise free updates that’ll eventually make the base game reach the parity of previous entries. After that, they move on
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this means that the third pokemon version is a gaas 🤔
 
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Secu said:
Nintendo will certainly GAAS its games as much as possible in the next generation. Otherwise, third-party GAAS will flood into NS2 and absorb all the money.

Meanwhile, Nintendo should restrict GAAS third-party games on their platform.

I don't want to see people say that competition between GAAS drives game progress anymore, this is the funniest joke.
GAAS will indeed compete with each other, competing for who has better community managers, more advertising, better marketing, and who has higher sunk costs.
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Yeah exactly. The truth is that Fire Emblem heroes has made more money than all other Fire emblem games put together. And everyone knows Fire Emblem Heroes is the worst Fire Emblem game ever made. GAAS and Gacha revenue success have nothing to do with real quality gaming experiences.
 
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dolpic said:
.The original gamecube animal crossing didn't need any updates, let's just have games be released when they're finished.
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No disagreement from me there. Hopefully the next Animal Crossing is finished at launch
 
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So Hoyoverse ends up gaining more money from the games Nintendo makes 'but GaaS'

Because this might become Genshin Impact 2.0 in scale, monetary value speaking. There is a strong demand for social games and this game seems to be targeting the right demographic that is looking to spend all their weekmoney on.

Feels like this might become a Gaia Online successor if Hoyoverse plays their cards right.

Would love to see the game around its first Beta
 
Living in a town of anime girls sounds so much better than a town of weird animal creatures!! Cant wait
 
Yavga said:
So Hoyoverse ends up gaining more money from the games Nintendo makes 'but GaaS'

Because this might become Genshin Impact 2.0 in scale, monetary value speaking. There is a strong demand for social games and this game seems to be targeting the right demographic that is looking to spend all their weekmoney on.

Feels like this might become a Gaia Online successor if Hoyoverse plays their cards right.

Would love to see the game around its first Beta
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Nintendo should be praised for not making GAAS. They are foregoing lots of revenue and profits by continue making single player experiences with little to no microtransactions. Look at how Sony this gen gave up and entered the GAAS focused majority, while Nintendo still is a holdout. Every other publisher dreams about a gaming world where only GAAS games exist.
 
Danny said:
Nintendo should be praised for not making GAAS. They are foregoing lots of revenue and profits by continue making single player experiences with little to no microtransactions. Look at how Sony this gen gave up and entered the GAAS focused majority, while Nintendo still is a holdout. Every other publisher dreams about a gaming world where only GAAS games exist.
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I feel like Nintendo not really making GaaS gives people the impression that they are some sort of good guys in the gaming landscape but Nintendo just follows a different, pragmatic path towards succes that has proven succesful for them but even Nintendo shows they are willing to experiment with their business model but as of yet they did not have much success with the GaaS model, so what may not be a thing right now could very well happen more in the future.

I do believe Nintendo is in a very fortunate position now, especially because they are the odd one out in a market where where every company is looking for a way to milk even more money from its customers with GaaS.

I don't think GaaS has to be all bad when implemented in a more player respecting way. Animal Crossing lends itself as an ideal game for a GaaS model but I would like to see Nintendo make it instead of Hoyoverse...
 
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No need to worry because the next Animal Crossing will launch before this anyway

...right?
 
Man, I can even imagine that this game outlive the next Animal Crossing game.
This is truly the animal crossing killer we're talking about.
 
Yavga said:
Might depend on whether they'll decide to recycle the engine from New Horizons or start from scratch 😅
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Genshin came out fast as well due to how they could reuse Breath of the wild assets and even the UI from the game.

Maybe Nintendo should enter a partnership with Mihoyo due to how much they seem to love working on Nintendo style games. Instead of copying Nintendo IP they can make true Nintendo IP mobile games, and add as much gacha mechanics as they can dream of.
 
Truno said:
I never said that this game would kill Animal Crossing nor did I say that it would fail in result to this lol
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And I never claimed you did. It's just that after seeing that some unironically believe this game is a big threat to AC, I wrongly assumed you meant the same thing in the original post, but it seems that we agree that the impact this is going to have on the AC franchise is minimal.
 
Truno said:
Your view of a rushed or phoned-in AC might be Nintendo's view of a complete one
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that's fair lol. animal crossing has always had questionable standards for its iterations. I adore city folk but most seem to consider it the most egregious rehash nintendo's ever done
 
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Danny said:
Genshin came out fast as well due to how they could reuse Breath of the wild assets and even the UI from the game.

Maybe Nintendo should enter a partnership with Mihoyo due to how much they seem to love working on Nintendo style games. Instead of copying Nintendo IP they can make true Nintendo IP mobile games, and add as much gacha mechanics as they can dream of.
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Have you…Actually played Genshin? The UI is nothing like Breath of the Wild and about the only asset the two games have in common is…Vibrant green grass?

You have to be trolling at this point.
 
Yavga said:
Genshin, The game in its beta form was scandalous at best. Now it stands entirely on its own legs.
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It has stood on its own legs since it was officially released. Genuinely outside of both games being open-world and being able to climb surfaces, the games are nothing alike. When I first played Genshin when it released on PS4, the last thing I was thinking about was Breath of the Wild.
 
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