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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST5| Uncharted Territory: Drake's Deception

When is the next general full-length Direct?

  • June

    Votes: 130 38.0%
  • July

    Votes: 40 11.7%
  • August

    Votes: 15 4.4%
  • September

    Votes: 129 37.7%
  • October

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • November

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • December

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • January

    Votes: 13 3.8%
  • February

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Never

    Votes: 11 3.2%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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Nintendo was never part of Summer Game Fest and only did something when E3 was a thing. That said having "content drought" Nintendo doing marketing is something I like to see, though they have Pikmin 4 they can throw stuff with :D.

But with the games I have now I do not really need a new direct. The only thing I would be interested in to see is the rumoured FE4 remake and potential GC Remasters.
 
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If I stay pessimistic about the odds of a June Direct, nothing can hurt me

Hears talk about a June Direct totally not happening

Oof I am in terrible pain
 
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is posting in bad faith really the best way to comment to them?

I wouldn't call it bad faith

it looks to me like they're literally making the argument that Nintendo doesn't need to announce games because third party games exist

would that not still be the case in a few months?
 
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I doubt Nintendo would avoid June just because they don't want to be associated with SGF. That doesn't seem to make much sense.

If they skip June it's probably because they're just not ready to show stuff for whatever reason.
 
This is the Nintendo Direct speculation thread, but that doesn't mean that everyone needs to believe in a june direct because "Nintendo has to!". I've given examples as to how the Switch schedule can be filled up in the coming months as we wait for a fall direct, but you continue to devalue it as "they're not nintendo though". What happens if the schedule is exactly like last year, Direct in feb, partner showcase in june, direct in sep? Is Nintendo doomed? Of course not, that's silly.

I'm not even saying that Nintendo has no games or anything, I'm just saying that we're likely waiting 2-3 months for a general direct instead of 2 weeks. It's not that bad. Much better than the nearly 2 years we had to wait for a PlayStation showcase lmfao, and we could possibly have a pretty good partner showcase to look forward to!
I'm not devaluing the third party games, they're just not relevant. Sure, I plan to pick up stuff like Ghost Trick or Baten Kaitos over the summer, but that's an entirely separate concern from Nintendo's schedule being basically empty after Pikmin. It's very out of character for them to leave it this empty, especially in the Switch era. When they skipped the summer direct last year, they delivered separate updates on their already announced fall games instead, but this year those games simply haven't been announced. The September Direct is much later than they're usually announced, with most of the fully new first party announcements in that typically being for the next year.

Nintendo isn't going to be instantly "doomed" if they don't do a summer Direct, but it's a pretty huge departure from their typical strategy, even from 2022, and I'd argue an unforced error. The narrative that Nintendo just doesn't have anything after Zelda has already taken hold way more than it should.
 
While am still certain of the June 14th/15th Direct with possible Pikmin 4 Direct announcement in there to air week after, June 21st. For example, in the September 2021 Direct, Koizumi announced that they will be airing a Animal Crossing Direct in October so I don't think it's not unlikely that they would announce Pikmin 4 Direct a week in advance there, after showing another trailer for Pikmin 4. It absolutely makes better sense do show Pikmin 4 in General Direct and then fully detail it after that, not viceversa. Which got me thinking about another date for the Direct, so listen up.

Nintendo these days details there games around month before launch, it used to be a little less than that (Splatoon 2 Direct) or few days over that (Super Mario Maker 2 Direct) but these days it's almost exactly month before launch:

AC: New Horizons Direct - February 20th - launched on March 20th
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Direct - June 22nd - launched on July 29th (one week more since Partner Showcase aired on June 28th)
Splatoon 3 Direct - August 10th - launched on September 9th
Final TotK trailer - April 13th - launched on May 12th

Pikmin 4 Direct - June 21st(?) - launches on July 21st

Even if it's not June 21st it's just day before or after.

So what if General Direct is on June 21st, followed by Pikmin 4 Direct right after that? They will likely not announce it in advance with Direct announcement but I don't think it would hurt Pikmin at all to do it right after Direct.

For example Monster Hunter Direct was streamed right after September 2020 Partner Showcase, Banjo & Kazooie Gameplay Demo was streamed right after September 2019 Direct but if we are looking into 25-30 minute video they would need to announce it beforehand since it takes a lot more of your time, something like they did with Treehouse when they announced Smash Direct:



Seems far fetched I know, but Direct season this is.


Either way it's either June 14th/15th or June 21st/22nd for General Direct. Nothing else.
 
I don't see how people could have gone through last year where we all assumed there had to be a June direct, ended up getting nothing, and yet still somehow assume we're gonna get a June direct this year. They've made it abundantly clear, no E3 no June general.

No offense to anyone obviously, but it just feels like we've been in this exact same position before. So imo don't expect anything general direct wise till September.
 
While am still certain of the June 14th/15th Direct with possible Pikmin 4 Direct announcement in there to air week after, June 21st. For example, in the September 2021 Direct, Koizumi announced that they will be airing a Animal Crossing Direct in October so I don't think it's not unlikely that they would announce Pikmin 4 Direct a week in advance there, after showing another trailer for Pikmin 4. It absolutely makes better sense do show Pikmin 4 in General Direct and then fully detail it after that, not viceversa. Which got me thinking about another date for the Direct, so listen up.
I don't think it's THAT necessary to announce a Pikmin 4 Direct in a general one. Sure would be nice, but I don't think it'll dictate the direct time. For AC it was a different story because the fanbase kept getting more and more vocal about the updates being too small, so I can imagine they wanted the news for the Direct out in advance.

That said, do they really need the general direct 1 week before the Pikmin 4 direct? Hypothetically speaking, can't they have a general next week in which they announce a Pikmin Direct for June 23th?
 
I don't see how people could have gone through last year where we all assumed there had to be a June direct, ended up getting nothing, and yet still somehow assume we're gonna get a June direct this year. They've made it abundantly clear, no E3 no June general.

No offense to anyone obviously, but it just feels like we've been in this exact same position before. So imo don't expect anything general direct wise till September.
Because last year we already knew the entire first party lineup. This year we know nothing past July, so Nintendo have to announce something.
 
Saying their next presentation will be a Direct, therefore it will be in September is a pretty big jump. Why couldn't they just do a general Direct vaguely around the normal E3 timeframe? Especially in a year when they've really set themselves up to announce more things over the summer?

Well, no
Their internal.Direct setup in terms of General Direct is

February
September

With Indie worlds, Partner Showcase, Mini or game-based Direct sparse through the year

The "E3" presentation has always be sictated by that fair and, when it started to loose relevance, they skipped it

I am totally expecting an Indie World and a Pikmin Direct in June and July

A General Direct? Not that much

Of course, I would like them to surprise me!
 
I don't think it's THAT necessary to announce a Pikmin 4 Direct in a general one. Sure would be nice, but I don't think it'll dictate the direct time. For AC it was a different story because the fanbase kept getting more and more vocal about the updates being too small, so I can imagine they wanted the news for the Direct out in advance.

That said, do they really need the general direct 1 week before the Pikmin 4 direct? Hypothetically speaking, can't they have a general next week in which they announce a Pikmin Direct for June 23th?
I mean, it would be one one week so it's not that unlikely that they would not announce it there, as you said, would be nice but we are getting it on June 21st/22nd either way.

General Direct next week? You people are overdose with copium.
 
Well, no
Their internal.Direct setup in terms of General Direct is

February
September

With Indie worlds, Partner Showcase, Mini or game-based Direct sparse through the year

The "E3" presentation has always be sictated by that fair and, when it started to loose relevance, they skipped it

I am totally expecting an Indie World and a Pikmin Direct in June and July

A General Direct? Not that much

Of course, I would like them to surprise me!
The E3 Direct has always functionally been a general Direct, and the only year they meaningfully skipped it (2020 was 2020, and I don't think that needs to be debated), they kinda set themselves up to be able to do that ahead of time by announcing their fall lineup early, possibly specifically because of uncertainty around E3. If they weren't planning to do a summer Direct this year, then why didn't the February Direct contain any first party game after July?
 
Between people saying that there's gonna be a Direct next week for some reason and people saying there's not going to be a Direct at all this Summer, a mid-June Direct does sound like the sensible and reasonable middle ground. But i don't want to get my hopes up, Nintendo is known making very, very weird decisions at times, we'll see what they're planning soon enough, i suppose.
 
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Music choices were even weirder when you consider that they somehow chose Take On Me over this beauty:


Someone at Illumination spent too much time reading gaming forums claiming that Nintendo needs more western devloppers and came to the conclusion that The Super Mario Movie needeed more western music.
 
The E3 Direct has always functionally been a general Direct, and the only year they meaningfully skipped it (2020 was 2020, and I don't think that needs to be debated), they kinda set themselves up to be able to do that ahead of time by announcing their fall lineup early, possibly specifically because of uncertainty around E3. If they weren't planning to do a summer Direct this year, then why didn't the February Direct contain any first party game after July?


Fair, but this is the same company that SHADOWDROPPED Metroid Prime Remastered giving it an eShop exclusivity of some weeks, or that announced Mario All Star 3D few weeks prior to the retail release
I wouldn't be shocked with them having a late August (due to the Seattle event) General Direct with a September, an October, a December and a "early 2024" lineup of unannounced games
 
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Music choices were even weirder when you consider that they somehow chose Take On Me over this beauty:


Its important to remember, that at the end of the day this is a family movie that needs to cast the widest net possible. Licensed music helps, my girlfriend for instance does not play
Video games what so ever. She said that the licensed music enhanced her experience. While i got little dopamine hits from hearing mario music that i love and recognize, she got those same hits from hearing songs that she recognized like take on me.

I think that all things considered, Nintendo and illumination struck a great balance between making a cool mario movie with plenty of things for fans to enjoy, and making a good family
Movie that everyone can like, even those who have never played a game in their life.
 
I don't think that xenoblade warriors would be coming in 2023.

Just curious why not? Xenoblade 3 was last year, so it will be over a year since. September is the perfect slot for a musou game. It might not be, but it feels like the right place to me. Also, just like the other Nintendo musous, a short release window sounds incredibly likely.
 
Giving continued grief for a minor two week old comment is inappropriate. -xghost777, Josh5890, Derachi
You're not one of the people I was replying to. You weren't even involved in the conversation. You want to call me out the day I make the post? Fine. I understand that it was a little bit rude. But throwing me a stray over a week later is unnecessary and a bit of a dick move.
Okay, sure. But there isn't really a statute of limitations for being a dick on a forum. Still going to call you out, I know you can handle it.
 
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I guess Dring is predicting August/September for the next Direct



This is seemingly more specific than anything else he's said on the matter... but then he hedges at the end.

Personally I still think mid June is likeliest, unless there genuinely are software problems at Nintendo or they somehow think they can coast. I don't think those scenarios are either very likely or desirable; you don't launch 5 games and 2 expansions in the four month run up to Zelda if the rest of 2023 is an issue. You also don't drive engagement by dropping off on software releases.

The other window, which I'd place as possible but less likely than mid June, is the week after Pikmin 4. Nintendo may genuinely wait until the slate is clear to talk about anything else. Nintendo have held several Directs in the Switch era just after their latest game releases, so perhaps it happens again here. Perhaps June gets a Pokemon Presentation to confirm DLC dates and a spin off, and Nintendo hold off on anything else until July. But it'd be unusual, and it wouldn't leave much of a window before the fairly likely September Direct, which is historically tied to TGS.
 
So many things I'd like to see show up, as I'm not convinced some of heavily alluded games like F-Zero GX remaster or TTYD HD, actually exist or are in the works. But I think a lot of these could easily be slotted in and fill up a release schedule.
  • new Tomodachi Life
  • new Rhythm Heaven
  • Xenoblade musou
  • new Mario Party (probably another Superstars-esque title?)
  • new Pilotwings
  • hopefully, god-willing Next Level Games game isn't just LM4, maybe a new Punch-Out? Something brand new?
  • and, honestly a huge shot in the dark, but I feel in the deepest of my gut, a new Nintendogs is coming before 2025
 
Just curious why not? Xenoblade 3 was last year, so it will be over a year since. September is the perfect slot for a musou game. It might not be, but it feels like the right place to me. Also, just like the other Nintendo musous, a short release window sounds incredibly likely.
Future Redeemed was last month, and it's likely to be a while until Xenoblade 4. Holding off for a year or two would allow them to space out Xenoblade releases and would more closely align with how Zelda and Fire Emblem were handled
 
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This is seemingly more specific than anything else he's said on the matter... but then he hedges at the end.

Personally I still think mid June is likeliest, unless there genuinely are software problems at Nintendo or they somehow think they can coast. I don't think those scenarios are either very likely or desirable; you don't launch 5 games and 2 expansions in the four month run up to Zelda if the rest of 2023 is an issue. You also don't drive engagement by dropping off on software releases.

The other window, which I'd place as possible but less likely than mid June, is the week after Pikmin 4. Nintendo may genuinely wait until the slate is clear to talk about anything else. Nintendo have held several Directs in the Switch era just after their latest game releases, so perhaps it happens again here. Perhaps June gets a Pokemon Presentation to confirm DLC dates and a spin off, and Nintendo hold off on anything else until July. But it'd be unusual, and it wouldn't leave much of a window before the fairly likely September Direct, which is historically tied to TGS.
The thing that gives me pause about the whole thing, is that Nintendo can't possibly rely on Zelda (and Pikmin 4 but you know, Zelda is the bigger seller) to carry the rest of their 2023. That's just not happening, it's not good business. Even if there's a 5 percent chance you're game flops after the success of the first game, you're going to want other games in the pipeline for the rest of the year.
 
And is it one that fans of the franchise have been clamoring for a remake of?
One of them at least, with 6/7 (mostly 7 from what I've seen) and 9/10 being the other notable ones.

Nintendo/IS have mostly gone in orignal release order for FE remakes too, which is another reason people thought Genealogy would be next even before the Engage leaks happened.
 
Because last year we already knew the entire first party lineup. This year we know nothing past July, so Nintendo have to announce something.
I don't think they'll have any games after Pikmin till September at the earliest so to me a September direct makes the most sense. Something like some Gamecube remasters in September/October and then a new 2D Mario in November. Nothing else major this year I don't think.
 
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So many things I'd like to see show up, as I'm not convinced some of heavily alluded games like F-Zero GX remaster or TTYD HD, actually exist or are in the works. But I think a lot of these could easily be slotted in and fill up a release schedule.
  • new Tomodachi Life
  • new Rhythm Heaven
  • Xenoblade musou
  • new Mario Party (probably another Superstars-esque title?)
  • new Pilotwings
  • hopefully, god-willing Next Level Games game isn't just LM4, maybe a new Punch-Out? Something brand new?
  • and, honestly a huge shot in the dark, but I feel in the deepest of my gut, a new Nintendogs is coming before 2025
I never thought about it before but I’d actually love a new pilotwings
 
Okay, but like, Zelda was already on Switch, and it was already the biggest thing ever. Ofc not everyone who wanted to play Zelda caved back then, but I doubt that number is high enough to reach the numbers they want.

And Pokémon DLC? Really? Why would DLC for a game (in a series already heavily represented on Switch) that’s already sold gangbusters push a significant number of hardware?
You have to remember that BotW was 2017, there were kids who were born between 2011-2017 who are now in the ripe age to want to get their first game system to play the new Zelda, especially after they just saw the Mario movie.
 
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One of them at least, with 6/7 (mostly 7 from what I've seen) and 9/10 being the other notable ones.

Nintendo/IS have mostly gone in orignal release order for FE remakes too, which is another reason people thought Genealogy would be next even before the Engage leaks happened.

also Sigurd(Genealogy lord) being second only to Marth in plot importance among the emblems in Engage while not confirmation of anything is another thing pointing towards that game
 
Because last year we already knew the entire first party lineup. This year we know nothing past July, so Nintendo have to announce something.
Most of what was released last year was announced before the year started. Splatoon 3, Bayonetta 3, Mario and Rabbids 2. The rest was released in the first half. Likewise the only big holiday game they really had was Pokemon Scarlet/Violet and those were announced via the Pokemon company themselves. Whatever Nintendo has this year can likely either wait till September to be announced, or just be announced via Twitter in the next three months.
 
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If we don't get a direct by the time the shareholder meetings happen, it would be hilarious if someone asks: "Where is the summer direct?"
 
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I’ve said before that an early August Direct makes sense. Cut down from three decent/good Directs a year to two great ones. Each one outlines the next 6 months and can have more reveals as a result.

I realize it would be after Pikmin 4, so there would be no games on the slate at all from Nintendo at that point. But maybe that’s their new strategy going forward? More surprise and excitement.
 
I still remember our shock when last June turned out to be a mini and not a general. The weeks leading up to it, that outcome seemed impossible to most of us.

I learned my lesson…if multiple of these people are saying they’re not expecting Nintendo, I’m just gonna write it off. Maybe a third party mini like last year, but I’m just gonna set expectations for August/Sept.

I’ve been let down too many times by the impossible becoming possible between different Direct stuff and Switch Pro/2 hype the last couple years lol
 
And is it one that fans of the franchise have been clamoring for a remake of?
I haven’t played too many Fire Emblems myself and I haven’t played this one, but it regularly seems to be held in high or at least good regard from people who’ve played it (it’s never been officially translated).
 
I still remember our shock when last June turned out to be a mini and not a general. The weeks leading up to it, that outcome seemed impossible to most of us.

I learned my lesson…if multiple of these people are saying they’re not expecting Nintendo, I’m just gonna write it off. Maybe a third party mini like last year, but I’m just gonna set expectations for August/Sept.

I’ve been let down too many times by the impossible becoming possible between different Direct stuff and Switch Pro/2 hype the last couple years lol

there's some irony in being more willing to believe people saying there won't be a direct in part because new switch versions never came out after a bunch of these same people repeatedly said they would
 
And is it one that fans of the franchise have been clamoring for a remake of?

I haven’t played too many Fire Emblems myself and I haven’t played this one, but it regularly seems to be held in high or at least good regard from people who’ve played it (it’s never been officially translated).
It's one of the more popular games in Japan with fans, and has always been popular among the import/English fan patch community. It was pretty far ahead of it's time, introducing mechanics like skills, child units, and a base to train your units at. It's also infamous for it's massive maps which are basically structured like 2-4 normal sized FE maps duct taped together. It helps to make the world of FE4 feel seamless as the last castle you capture at the end of one battle ends up being the castle you start the next battle from.

As others have said it's also the "next in line", so unless IS skips Fire Emblems 4-5 to remake Roy's game (Fire Emblem 6 aka The Binding Blade), it's next on the docket. They did skip and remake Fire Emblem 2 after 3, but that makes sense with context. Fire Emblem 3 itself was half a remake of FE1 and half a sequel to FE1. It made far too much sense to reuse the FE1 remake engine/system for FE3, and then do a new engine for FE2.
 
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