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StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)
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Okay, the draw distance actually sells me on this position. I tend to look at it as like poly counts and lighting/shading and all sorts of other things that are sorta baked into the visual style which wouldn't need crazy power for this particular game, but for a game that takes place across the sky and the visibility that'd give you of the world below, I can see where draw distance and LOD would make it a significant level above the base game. I gotcha.
I think the vast majority of the TotK audience, if given the choice between playing TotK on the device they already own, or paying $400 to play it on a new device with a higher framerate and draw distance, are going to choose the former. And considering low long TotK has already been in development, it might be more profitable to just position it as the last big Switch title and not delay it even further to port/optimize it for Drake.
Because they do the same with others special editions
Hosermess
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There's so much glare in those pics it's hard to make out anything exactly. But the added details (the circle pattern on top of all the images/text) on the back of the box itself would be an extra level for a fake I think.
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Reupping my list of special edition release dates relative to the game:
- Splatoon 2: Same day
- MHGU: Same day (I think)
- Mario Odyssey: Same day
- Diablo III: Same day
- Pokémon LGPE: Same day
- Smash Ultimate: 35 days before
- DQXIS: One week before
- Disney Tsum Tsum Festival: Same day
- Pokémon Sword & Shield: One week before
- ACNH: One week before
- SM3DW+BF: Same day
- MHR: Same day
- Pokémon BDSP: Two weeks before
- Fortnite: 871 days later
- Splatoon 3: Two weeks before
- Pokémon SV: Two weeks before
Kevin
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I would be very surprised and kind of confused if Nintendo launches the hotly anticipated Mario movie and offers no new Mario game, port or collection in the first half of 2023. As stated elsewhere, 2022 was the lowest amount of Mario releases in 32 years. Why starve Mario gaming fans so much and then release the film and still not offer a game to buy?
I don't think we will see a new 3D Mario until 2024 at the earliest but a new 2D game, port or collection announced at the February Direct I would say is a fairly safe bet. Of course all of this is just my speculation.
Vash
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Just when I'm out they pull me right back in. I love video game speculation
If Nate is right about the 2023 hardware being shelved recently ish, I guarantee that they have put a significant amount of hours into the botw 2 patch already.
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Well, it was just a guess based on the languages used on the box.
Though you are right, I took this image of the Splatoon OLED from a Swiss retailer.
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An announcement this year for sure but the release is no chance when DF has already said going by devs seems like there will be no new hardware in 2023.
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This makes sense actually. Huh.
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Tbh if you look at fwd-bwd I think the shelved hardware was a weaker version of Drake. I think Drake still exists and it's coming next year despite a Zelda SE.
King_Dodongo
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I believe Sakurai must have a Switch 2 kit at his house.
I think so, Splatoon 3 was released 2 weeks prior the game. So it definitely could be.
As far as I read, it's not from "the regular factory uncle" but someone reposted on Tieba that they found on the "web".
I didn't find where the original is from.
Hosermess
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You're mixing up what DF said. They said - with a fairly long disclaimer that seemed to me like he was reading off a piece of paper (or at least choosing his words very carefully) - that 'according to devs' there was a mid-gen refresh that was canned...and they also said they don't see the next gen being in 2023 (which was their own speculation).
It doesn't look fake to me, but that doesn't mean it isn't.
But why the hell did they use the 3DS Zelda crest on the dock instead of TotK's logo?
Also most patterns look very BotW to me.
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This is by far the worst thing I have read on this thread
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No, you're never the only one. Multiple have said this already did you post without reading any of the old posts Earlier?
a switch pro wouldn't get you those things
from what we know about Orin Nano, it's the same die as the 400mm2+ as Orin AGX. that's not going in a tablet
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okay mr "pro vs 2 is marketing"
The use of a logo from a past 3ds zelda edition makes its suspicious
In addition, a few users here said that the box has an error in one of the dragons (I cant find it XD)
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That is a very sensical argument. Bottom line is that even if Switch 2 did launch alongside Zelda TotK, the game would still be selling in far greater numbers on OG Switch and the situation is very different from Zelda TP and Zelda BotW where those games were developed on systems that not only sold poorly, but were basically dead consoles by the time those Zelda titles were ready. Zelda TotK will be great regardless, but I cant help but feel like I will be playing it on Switch in its twilight years when I could be playing on a Drake powered Switch in its infancy.
you're the one making a distinction between pro and 2 in your post. you're also the one who can't define what those are for ease of discussion, so I'm forced to assume the "2" is Drake. maybe instead of complaining about my post, you help me and define what a "pro" and what a "2" is in your eyes
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neither of them have to exist in the context of my original post. I referred to "switch pro selling points" and think it would make sense for a system branded as a successor to have a totally new game. I was not engaging in speculation of what drake (or some other other mystery chip) is capable of but instead considering their strategy in the context of "why not delay zelda further"
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Is there any need for this
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you're so based...
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You could ask the same thing about his post.
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I didn't say that either! This is getting into the weeds a bit, I'm not trying to argue this definitely happened. I'm just looking at possibilities. Let me walk it through.
The original Nvidia roadmap for this year had Nano Next (not branded as Orin) launching in 2022 before Orin did. Before the Drake reveal in March, many of us speculated that Nano Next was Dane.
Late last year Nvidia moved Nano Next to after Orin on their roadmap. Orin Nano, the product we eventually got, is a floorswept Orin. In modern chip manufacturing, floorswept chips don't come before their full fat counterparts.
Why was there ever an expectation that Nano Next would launch before Orin? Did it, at one point, have a large customer with a timeline? Was it, at one point, an independent chip, rather than just a floorswept version of its Big Brother?
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Probably only a fifth of them could be satisfied in the first quarter if they actually all wanted to upgrade right away, so that's not a big issue.
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The other user was just posting their take, and "am I the only one who <blank>" is a fairly common way to frame a take. You were being unnecessarily hostile
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To be honest, I haven’t really been reading a lot of the posts because it’s kind of difficult to read at the moment. So I wouldn’t even blame them.
I'm on #teamreal
that makes your response even less relevant then. you could have said this instead of being an ass
Some things don't add up, but it still looks as real as it is fake.
For my part, I prefer not to pronounce myself and remain neutral (in any case, I think that if this edition is fake, they are going to launch another one, be it Oled, lite or whatever). But since this has appeared, it is better to report it.
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Look over there
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Huh, looks neat.
I'm getting off track here, but there's another What If that I've been thinking about.
What If: TSMC's 10FF node wasn't retired so quickly?
Referencing this post; there may have been plans for consumer Volta GPUs on 10FF. As we know now, consumer Volta never happened, and we got Turing on 16/12 instead.
But in a different timeline where 10FF is still running for a few more years at least, we may have gotten consumer Volta instead of Turing in late 2018. Which means proof of capacity secured by Nvidia. Which means that while a clocked up Mariko on 16FF may not have quite met requirements, maybe a 10FF Mariko could've. Maybe we could've gotten the clocked up Mariko pro. Or maybe even a tweaked Mariko pro (expand from 2 SMs to 4 in order to not need push clocks as much?) given the density improvements.
As for the A715 itself...ehh, as far as PPA goes, the transition to Arm v9's been rather lackluster*. A710->A715 is alleged to have +5 perf at same power, or -20% power draw at the same perf. Now the latter does sound good, but given that the A710 ended up regressing in perf/watt, a lot of that claimed power efficiency improvement has to go into catching up. And some of that cleanup in power draw comes from the redesigning allowed by dropping 32-bit support.
And there are some Switch games in 32-bit (where is that list, again?). It's an issue that would have to be dealt with for BC eventually, but it seems easier to eat it in a Switch 3, than hypothetically now with A715 cores that don't even have that much headroom over the A78C.
* back in 2020, the projection for the 2022 arch (A715) was supposed to be +30% IPC over the A78. Not the case anymore though; more like +15% with certain caveats. A78->A710 is +10%**, then the A710->A715's +5% brings it up to +15%.
** that +10% comes from comparing A710 with access to 8 MB of L3 cache to A78 with access to 4 MB of L3 cache. Now, refer to this post. Then, consider that the A78C allows for up to 8 MB of L3 cache (but L2 should remain the same). The odds are high that a decent chunk of the uplift from regular A78 to the A710 would already be packaged in with the A78C. We're probably looking at 10% or sub-10% IPC going from A78C to A715 altogether. Not...particularly...impressive...
If Drake were to release in 2024? Well, since I do intend to finally put together a new desktop in 2023, that would provide some time for the luxury wallet to recover. Conversely, the shock of putting down money for PC + Drake at the same time would be the one downside of a H1 2023 launch.
Wasn't it a supply/$$$ decision? TSMC's N7 is/was significantly more in demand at the time. And honestly, in hindsight, it hasn't really hindered the success of the RTX 30 series.
I'm getting off track here, but there's another What If that I've been thinking about.
What If: TSMC's 10FF node wasn't retired so quickly?
Referencing this post; there may have been plans for consumer Volta GPUs on 10FF. As we know now, consumer Volta never happened, and we got Turing on 16/12 instead.
But in a different timeline where 10FF is still running for a few more years at least, we may have gotten consumer Volta instead of Turing in late 2018. Which means proof of capacity secured by Nvidia. Which means that while a clocked up Mariko on 16FF may not have quite met requirements, maybe a 10FF Mariko could've. Maybe we could've gotten the clocked up Mariko pro. Or maybe even a tweaked Mariko pro (expand from 2 SMs to 4 in order to not need push clocks as much?) given the density improvements.
Probably not the successor of the A715 (which would be announced in ~May 2023).
As for the A715 itself...ehh, as far as PPA goes, the transition to Arm v9's been rather lackluster*. A710->A715 is alleged to have +5 perf at same power, or -20% power draw at the same perf. Now the latter does sound good, but given that the A710 ended up regressing in perf/watt, a lot of that claimed power efficiency improvement has to go into catching up. And some of that cleanup in power draw comes from the redesigning allowed by dropping 32-bit support.
And there are some Switch games in 32-bit (where is that list, again?). It's an issue that would have to be dealt with for BC eventually, but it seems easier to eat it in a Switch 3, than hypothetically now with A715 cores that don't even have that much headroom over the A78C.
* back in 2020, the projection for the 2022 arch (A715) was supposed to be +30% IPC over the A78. Not the case anymore though; more like +15% with certain caveats. A78->A710 is +10%**, then the A710->A715's +5% brings it up to +15%.
** that +10% comes from comparing A710 with access to 8 MB of L3 cache to A78 with access to 4 MB of L3 cache. Now, refer to this post. Then, consider that the A78C allows for up to 8 MB of L3 cache (but L2 should remain the same). The odds are high that a decent chunk of the uplift from regular A78 to the A710 would already be packaged in with the A78C. We're probably looking at 10% or sub-10% IPC going from A78C to A715 altogether. Not...particularly...impressive...
I'll be going down with the ship. (is there a salute emoticon?)
I dig the theoretical synergy too, but I get the impression that movies are a enough of a beast of complex moving parts themselves that trying to synchronize would be too difficult?I would be very surprised and kind of confused if Nintendo launches the hotly anticipated Mario movie and offers no new Mario game, port or collection in the first half of 2023. As stated elsewhere, 2022 was the lowest amount of Mario releases in 32 years. Why starve Mario gaming fans so much and then release the film and still not offer a game to buy?
I don't think we will see a new 3D Mario until 2024 at the earliest but a new 2D game, port or collection announced at the February Direct I would say is a fairly safe bet. Of course all of this is just my speculation.
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I'm just gonna be real here, if there isn't a Pro by Zelda's release I'm just going to p*rate the game and run it better on my laptop. After experiencing 1440p and 4K at 60fps, I never want to go back.
I think many people on this thread should do the same if this is what ends up happening.
I will give Nintendo money when they make a Pro
I think many people on this thread should do the same if this is what ends up happening.
I will give Nintendo money when they make a Pro
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Ahhh I finally understand what you're getting at.
Was nano next always tied to Orin? Could it have been planned to be a binned Xavier or something?
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less relevant? if you had read the context instead of just trying to dunk on me indiscriminately I think it would've been clear we were always talking about launch strategies
(sorry for the quotes)
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I think that Nano Next was always a mystery that we guessed was related to Orin due to the timing.
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LMFAOOOOO
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You mean a switch 2, the current one is about to be 6years old.
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