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Ok, I certainly didn't expect THAT.

I don't want to play the recent big, not-so-great-performing Nintendo games on my Switch Lite and at this point I don't even want to buy an OLED.
Well, at least we have the definitive proof TotK won't be delayed anymore
 
That is the most ugly Zelda Special Edition to my eyes. Why mix gold with green and white. If that’s the “revision” that was cancelled then I’m more than happy.

Also new hardware is always nice, but I would also prefer to keep it technical not emotional. When someone posts something which doesn’t make sense, ignore him. It’s anyway all 2nd hand talk. The only real insider stopped giving hints (I loved her relaxed way of giving us something to base speculations on, without seeking attention and teaching others what and what not Nintendo would do).
 
Not sure what all the cringe and smug comments stating "Facts", "Dream is dead" etc hope to achieve. There is ample precedent of Nintendo releasing special edition models of consoles after New consoles have been announced, a new 2DS model was announced after the switch reveal. So it's entirely possible that drake is revealed in January with a higher price point and the OLED Zelda model announced afterwards.

This is a speculation thread, there are many facts that we have regarding this device, the exact timing of its release or the circumstance surrounding those facts is entirely down to interpretation, that's what speculation is. You don't win any Internet points by dropping in randomly and stating your opinion as fact when nothing has even been confirmed.
 
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Obviously insiders aren't the be all end all and they tend not to know Nintendo's plans this far out, but we've got two industry people saying the Switch has a "quiet" (AKA nothing Zelda tier) 2nd half of 2023 post Zelda.



So, assuming what they're saying is true...No new HW until early 2024. But maybe they pull a JP DSi launch and launch it with...well, nothing. But we saw how that worked with the 3DS and Wii U. So who knows. I'm sticking to the ol' reliable NVN2/linux info currently.

edit: Is Nintendo really gonna let the Switch go out on a whimper (by which I mean a year like 2020, yes I know TOTK will be massive)? Finish the year with Pokemon and MK DLC with some other titles? At this point, I'm way more interested in what Nintendo's line up and plans are for the next two years. All this information is so fascinating.
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I think they keep minor switch support till 2025 then full pivot away from it. Maybe they do a cross gen release of mario and metroid prime 4 as a last hurrah?
 
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Thinking about everything that transpired these past few days, I have to say I now think this idea that Nintendo will have a "quiet" 2023 in preparation for a big 2024 with new hardware makes sense. Like, all the pieces are falling into place. A year focused on DLCs and a huge game meant as the send off for the generation in a way, with a huge install base to make all the money. A very profit oriented year basically.

Like seriously think of all the DLCs coming out in 2023
  • Pokémon (presumably)
  • Tears of the Kingdom (presumably)
  • Splatoon
  • Xenoblade
  • Fire Emblem
  • Mario Kart
That's one hell of a busy year but with less resources necessary. Add to that one or two decently sizable game for the holiday and you have your year.

It does go against this idea (or hope really) of a smooth transition that would have been different, since when you put it like that it sounds like a very traditional way of sunsetting a generation and starting another, but sometimes the most simple explanation works. As I said, the pieces are falling into places in my mind and it sounds right.
 
Going to be a long while before we see a new 3D Zelda launch on Switch 2. Like 2028/29 but at least it will look great. Hopefully we get OoT/MM mask remakes or something before then, although you can almost guarantee a 4K TotK remaster.

Zelda has been the springboard for the success of Wii and Switch in many ways so hopefully Nintendo launch Switch 2 with a 3D Mario (a similar level of release) which would be a first for Nintendo since Super Mario 64 with the N64 in 1996.
 
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Tbf, the timing of both DF and Nate's comments couldn't have been better. Could you imagine the meltdown this images would have produced if none of this week's discussions have happened?

Also, I think it does need to be said to be fair with him in exactly the same way that he has been put into doubt (even though some thinks still remain to be more cohesively explained), I honestly think this should serve as a reaffirm to Nate's trustworthiness, even in a partial way, or at least as something that should put down the agressiveness.
 
When do special edition models usually get announced? If it’s only a month or two before the games release, there might be a window in the beginning of the year to announce the Switch 2 or whatever they end up calling it. I don’t know if there’s any precedent for something like this happening, but it’s a possibility
 
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If those images above are true (looks like it)....That's truly disappointing. Totk gonna lag like crazy smh. Not sure what Nintendo is thinking
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There's no reason to believe TotK is radically more demanding than BotW, especially now that it's free from maintaining compatibility with a completely different system architecture. It'll run fine. This is Nintendo EPD we're talking about.

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If there is no Switch 2 with Zelda and Switch 2 comes in 2024, are there any positives which come out of that situation for you?

- I held off on buying recent RE games thinking they’d quickly be ported to Drake. I might buy them on my PS4 Pro now.

- I held off on Bayonetta 3 thinking we’d get a much improved version on Drake next year. I’ll buy and finish this before Zelda comes out now.

- I can justify buying a PS5 late next year (new model?). Two consoles would have been a bit much for me and my current circumstances.

- There’s a big event I may potentially be going to in early June. The cost of going to that along with buying Switch 2 would have been like £1500 all within the same period.
 
Holiday 2023 then, hopefully.
Charamiwa said:
Thinking about everything that transpired these past few days, I have to say I now think this idea that Nintendo will have a "quiet" 2023 in preparation for a big 2024 with new hardware makes sense. Like, all the pieces are falling into place. A year focused on DLCs and a huge game meant as the send off for the generation in a way, with a huge install base to make all the money. A very profit oriented year basically.

Like seriously think of all the DLCs coming out in 2023
  • Pokémon (presumably)
  • Tears of the Kingdom (presumably)
  • Splatoon
  • Xenoblade
  • Fire Emblem
  • Mario Kart
That's one hell of a busy year but with less resources necessary. Add to that one or two decently sizable game for the holiday and you have your year.

It does go against this idea (or hope really) of a smooth transition that would have been different, since when you put it like that it sounds like a very traditional way of sunsetting a generation and starting another, but sometimes the most simple explanation works. As I said, the pieces are falling into places in my mind and it sounds right.
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It would certainly make sense, but I’m still hoping for a Holiday 2023 release. If not Switch still needs a Holiday game since Pokemon will likely just be doing DLC. I don’t think it’d be MP4, I’m like 60% sure that will be a Switch 2 title. I can’t see it being a new 3D platformer from the Mario team either,
 
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If there is no Switch 2 with Zelda and Switch 2 comes in 2024, are there any positives which come out of that situation for you?

- I held off on buying recent RE games thinking they’d quickly be ported to Drake. I might buy them on my PS4 Pro now.

- I held off on Bayonetta 3 thinking we’d get a much improved version on Drake next year. I’ll buy and finish this before Zelda comes out now.

- I can justify buying a PS5 late next year (new model?). Two consoles would have been a bit much for me and my current circumstances.

- There’s a big event I may potentially be going to in early June. The cost of going to that along with buying Switch 2 would have been like £1500 all within the same period.
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well, there are at least 4 important games (TotK, Bayonetta, FE and Xeno3 massive DLC) that I'm eager to play, not taking into account games that still have to be announced. plenty of games to play.

EDIT: I forgot Pikmin 4, maybe one of the my most anticipated game.
 
Ok! Shame we will probably have to wait around longer than expected, but at least we can take a break from this madness...

Of course there is still some glimmer of chance something could still be announced in January (as was explained before), or that the OLED model is fake (probably not), so if you want to hold on to some hope for another announcement, I suppose wait until next month ends.

But anyway, then are we looking at a similar time window as the OG Switch - announcement on October 2023, launching March 2024?

And also, if it is 2024, then surely it means at least 5nm, correct?
 
mariodk18 said:
Obviously insiders aren't the be all end all and they tend not to know Nintendo's plans this far out, but we've got two industry people saying the Switch has a "quiet" (AKA nothing Zelda tier) 2nd half of 2023 post Zelda.



So, assuming what they're saying is true...No new HW until early 2024. But maybe they pull a JP DSi launch and launch it with...well, nothing. But we saw how that worked with the 3DS and Wii U. So who knows. I'm sticking to the ol' reliable NVN2/linux info currently.

edit: Is Nintendo really gonna let the Switch go out on a whimper (by which I mean a year like 2020, yes I know TOTK will be massive)? Finish the year with Pokemon and MK DLC with some other titles? At this point, I'm way more interested in what Nintendo's line up and plans are for the next two years. All this information is so fascinating.
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II mean I'm not sure any year except 2017 has had 2 games of Zelda tier in it, so that's not exactly surprising... Assuming it is actually real then we might get Metroid Prime Remake and a 2D Mario/DK at the end of the year - but I guess it is all relative to your meaning of huge. It could very well be a 2018 kinda year.

I think there was talk that Nintendo were unhappy that Mario Odyssey and Zelda were competing for GOTY Awards in 2017 and didn't want to release two huge games like that in the same year again but just something i vaguely remember hearing somewhere and not a direct quote obv
 
Is this all happening because of shitty nodes that Nvidia happened to pick? Apparently a boosted Mariko was shelved due to meager improvements in performance sometime in 2018 most likely? Then it potentially could be that basing Orin on Samsung 8nm led to Nintendo being unhappy with battery life in 2021 or so? Meanwhile, NVN2 and the linux updates point to a substantially more powerful chip, so maybe they waited for Samsung to improve their low 5nm yields. And I guess we might've read too much into the numbers? I believe I noted that following the 15.0.0 FW update weirdness and comparing previous FW update timelines would place us at a March 2024 release...Hope not.

Why did Nvidia go with 8nm for Ampere? Does everything go back to that decision?
 
mariodk18 said:
Is this all happening because of shitty nodes that Nvidia happened to pick? Apparently a boosted Mariko was shelved due to meager improvements in performance sometime in 2018 most likely? Then it potentially could be that basing Orin on Samsung 8nm led to Nintendo being unhappy with battery life in 2021 or so? Meanwhile, NVN2 and the linux updates point to a substantially more powerful chip, so maybe they waited for Samsung to improve their low 5nm yields. And I guess we might've read too much into the numbers? I believe I noted that following the 15.0.0 FW update weirdness and comparing previous FW update timelines would place us at a March 2024 release...Hope not.

Why did Nvidia go with 8nm for Ampere? Does everything go back to that decision?
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In both of those cases, there is no conceivable way Nintendo/ Nvidia didn't know the exact power/ performance ratio figures down to the 0,1 watt before the project was greenlit. Those nodes were very well known quantities.
 
SpaceGodzilla said:
thank god we can out those foolish first half of 2023 speculation to rest
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Not just yet. Announcement reveal is still possible for 2023. Heck, announcement alone is possible anytime they're ready to talk about it. As for release schedule, that's usually relative to announcement.

Presence of different OLED SKU doesn't invalidate existence of a Drake one, although the latter is likely very tightly guarded.
 
Honestly people are saying this doesn’t rule out switch 2 with Zelda but how does it not? Did the wii U get a special edition? I don’t think it did. It wouldn’t really make sense to release a special edition of both old and new hardware. Especially when most people are inclined to buy the new one.

Atp holiday 2023 feels optimistic to me but no way is it coming it H1 2023
 
SiG said:
Not just yet. Announcement reveal is still possible for 2023. Heck, announcement alone is possible anytime they're ready to talk about it. As for release schedule, that's usually relative to announcement.

Presence of different OLED SKU doesn't invalidate existence of a Drake one, although the latter is likely very tightly guarded.
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tbh even a limited edition OLED would still sell even with new hardware, but I don't know if Nintendo has ever done that which is why I kinda doubt this possibility.
 
arsen said:
tbh even a limited edition OLED would still sell even with new hardware, but I don't know if Nintendo has ever done that which is why I kinda doubt this possibility.
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Bundled SKUs could be priced higher than base OLED model, which would help given the inflation prices.
Thus a limited Edition OLED could be sold concurrently with newer hardware that might be priced higher.
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Honestly people are saying this doesn’t rule out switch 2 with Zelda but how does it not? Did the wii U get a special edition? I don’t think it did. It wouldn’t really make sense to release a special edition of both old and new hardware. Especially when most people are inclined to buy the new one.

Atp holiday 2023 feels optimistic to me but no way is it coming it H1 2023
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As a matter of fact, yes, Wii U got a Deluxe Version with 32GB internal storage, and it came in Black and bundled with NintendoLand.
 
SiG said:
Bundled SKUs could be priced higher than base OLED model, which would help given the inflation prices.
Thus a limited Edition OLED could be sold concurrently with newer hardware that might be priced higher.

As a matter of fact, yes, Wii U got a Deluxe Version with 32GB internal storage, and it came in Black and bundled with NintendoLand.
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That’s interesting since I genuinely can not find anything on it the only special edition Zelda one I found was one for windwaker.

Maybe it never made it to the UK though or something.
 
Chijin_08 said:
That’s interesting since I genuinely can not find anything on it the only special edition Zelda one I found was one for windwaker.

Maybe it never made it to the UK though or something.
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This is the D-1 model, which is the one I have
 
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As a matter of fact, yes, Wii U got a Deluxe Version with 32GB internal storage, and it came in Black and bundled with NintendoLand.
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That was the deluxe version I got at launch, not a special edition after the Switch release.
 
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Chijin_08 said:
Honestly people are saying this doesn’t rule out switch 2 with Zelda but how does it not? Did the wii U get a special edition? I don’t think it did. It wouldn’t really make sense to release a special edition of both old and new hardware. Especially when most people are inclined to buy the new one.

Atp holiday 2023 feels optimistic to me but no way is it coming it H1 2023
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Personally I would think there's no incentive to make a special edition of a console that only sold 14 million at its EoL compared to one that sold 100+ million that's gonna end up in a cross-gen period.
 
HankyPanky said:
the Uncle is probably still on Christmas break and has some New Years parties to attend. but after that when he's back in the factory it's game on, those new backplates aren't gonna fill themselves
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Is this the same guy who just leaked the Zelda switch? Or are there more than one uncle?
 
Delaying Zelda to launch with Drake and also making a Zelda OLED? I think that's a little too rich for me and will do my best to forget about Drake altogether. Despite lamenting EPDs glacial output I'm just glad that Zelda is finally coming.
 
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