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Jencks said:
It has severe frame drops in multiple areas, and had entire 1-2 freezes at launch. It's playable, but I wouldn't say it runs well. It's also a different time and reviewers are less kind to performance issues
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I can't be the only one that thinks the game runs well (outside of that damn forest). TOTK will be fine.
 
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I've no doubt ToTK will run fine. I don't know actual specs of BOTW but I've played around with the game and been far beyond the height ceiling multiple times with the moon jump glitch, and it never really slows down. The only slow down tends to be caused by density not distance and since the Skylands are floating in the sky they can borrow from Wind Waker and use the technique where a higher poly version of said island loads in when you approach it.

Reviewers will be salty it's not on more powerful hardware, but that's their issue.
 
Mango said:
since the Skylands are floating in the sky they can borrow from Wind Waker and use the technique where a higher poly version of said island loads in when you approach it.
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Are you talking about LOD? BotW uses this technique on all sorts of topography and other assets, they just hide it well. I agree with youz I'm sure TotK will be so well optimized by May that it'll look and play really nicely.
 
You look at Scarlet and Violet selling 10 million copies on launch weekend and you tell me if Nintendo has a reason to think consumers care about performance
 
chocolate_supra said:
Are you talking about LOD? BotW uses this technique on all sorts of topography and other assets, they just hide it well. I agree with youz I'm sure TotK will be so well optimized by May that it'll look and play really nicely.
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Yeah I think so. I'm not a hardware knowledgeable person. I'm only here for Zelda. Lol
 
Mango said:
Yeah I think so. I'm not a hardware knowledgeable person. I'm only here for Zelda. Lol
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Ah gotcha. Yeah AFAIK it's a really common practice in the industry, and is an essential part of optimizing a game. Hell, even Mario 64 used it to a small extent.
 
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thoughthaver said:
were people still expecting it to launch with zelda? it was always a goofy scenario given how they only have 4 months to rev up the marketing cycle for a whole ass console.
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For real, I feel like we would have heard anything by now if it was coming out so soon.
 
emi_taiko said:
For real, I feel like we would have heard anything by now if it was coming out so soon.
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Realistically if it was launching in May they probably wouldn't announce it before December as to not disrupt their holiday sales.

Any announcement later than January though and it was never happening.
 
This is definitely a cool model many predicted, but it still doesn't give any clarity on Drake/T239/linux updates. It makes the whole situation more interesting.

edit: Is the ZOLED model the one that was hinted to begin manufacturing in January? Because this leak would indicate that the ZOLED model has been in production for a little while right? Unless this is just a initial test/production run for advertising or something.
 
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Mekanos said:
Realistically if it was launching in May they probably wouldn't announce it before December as to not disrupt their holiday sales.

Any announcement later than January though and it was never happening.
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Perhaps not a full blown out reveal, but at least acknowledge that the successor exists. A 4-5 month marketing cycle is waaay too little time imo
 
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Pokemaniac said:
Yeah, that's only very slightly shorter than what the Switch got.
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we also knew about the switch as the NX for a couple hundred years before nintendo posted their teaser. all we have thats from nintendo directly is that they have a successor coming and thats it. everything else is leaks and rumors.
 
thoughthaver said:
we also knew about the switch as the NX for a couple hundred years before nintendo posted their teaser. all we have thats from nintendo directly is that they have a successor coming and thats it. everything else is leaks and rumors.
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The only reason the NX was announced prematurely, was to avoid speculation that they were going full mobile. It was announced at the same time as the DENA collaboration.
 
I know right now there is still a chance that successor launching with Zelda but I was always doubtful about that. Zelda moves units that's for sure but new 3D Mario game, way more cartoon than anything other could really show the power of the new system.
 
I did try to tell people, as much as I could, that every one of Furukawa's declaration regarding their hardware/software strategy, their goals for this FY and the next one, their statements regarding the the next-gen transition and their software release date choices, were all pointing towards no new model or successor in 2022 and 2023. But people didn't want to listen to a fact-based argumented reasoning rather than what they wanted to see happen and the dozens of people pretending they vaguely heard things along this way.

The earliest this next-gen console will release is the FY after the next one, starting from April 1st 2024.
 
Magic-Man said:
I can't be the only one that thinks the game runs well (outside of that damn forest). TOTK will be fine.
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And to be fair it is solely being made for the switch. They might have figured out how to push the hardware even further these past couple years.
 
LukasManak22 said:
I know right now there is still a chance that successor launching with Zelda but I was always doubtful about that. Zelda moves units that's for sure but new 3D Mario game, way more cartoon than anything other could really show the power of the new system.
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Obviously insiders aren't the be all end all and they tend not to know Nintendo's plans this far out, but we've got two industry people saying the Switch has a "quiet" (AKA nothing Zelda tier) 2nd half of 2023 post Zelda.



So, assuming what they're saying is true...No new HW until early 2024. But maybe they pull a JP DSi launch and launch it with...well, nothing. But we saw how that worked with the 3DS and Wii U. So who knows. I'm sticking to the ol' reliable NVN2/linux info currently.

edit: Is Nintendo really gonna let the Switch go out on a whimper (by which I mean a year like 2020, yes I know TOTK will be massive)? Finish the year with Pokemon and MK DLC with some other titles? At this point, I'm way more interested in what Nintendo's line up and plans are for the next two years. All this information is so fascinating.
 
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So, did we all think that Nintendo would just stop selling the Switch the moment new hardware hit the scene? Because otherwise, I'm not sure what a LE Zelda OLED can really tell us more than "they're still confident they can sell Switches". Which...
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