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Pre-Release The Super Mario Bros. Movie Pre-Release Discussion Thread (Now releasing April 5th in the US)

Final Worldwide Box Office Predictions

  • Less than $300 million (Absolute Flop)

    Votes: 2 1.6%

  • $300-450 million (in line with other video game adaptations)

    Votes: 4 3.2%

  • $450-700 million (best video game adaptation, in line with other recent animated films)

    Votes: 26 21.0%

  • $700 million-1 billion (higher tier for all but the biggest hits

    Votes: 43 34.7%

  • $1-1.3 billion (Top 10 highest grossing animated film of all time, Illumination’s biggest success)

    Votes: 34 27.4%

  • $1.3-1.6 billion (Frozen tier)

    Votes: 9 7.3%

  • 1.6 billion+ (unseats the Lion King remake as the most successful animated movie of all time)

    Votes: 6 4.8%
  • Total voters
    124
  • Poll closed .
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Bowser Sr. said:
I'm sorry but no one is going to take down Pratt from being a millionarie by being aware that he is a jerk. We have decades of criticism-proof Hollywood folks to show that no matter how much you want to wish upon a star and hope that people finding out gossip about them is going to ruin their career it just... doesn't happen. It is melodramatic to act like Pratt's karma will only ever caught up to him and turn him into a homeless man licking the streets for lime if we stop saying his performance sucks and instead turn it into a thread about him. Why I would argue that this board, due to being filled with geeks that spend time on the Internet, likely already has more people that are aware of his demeanor than most other groups of folks across the world.
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You think I don’t realize that? The point isn’t to “take down Pratt”—it’s to spread awareness of the real issue with his casting. Sure, it may not have a huge effect all things considered at this point, but had these kind of things been more talked about and well known prior to the casting, Nintendo may have been more cautious about casting someone like Pratt if there was loud, active controversy surrounding him. And regardless, I think it’s important shit that people should know, especially when you’re going to have a whole new group of people start idolizing Pratt for playing Mario, and kids looking up to him for the role. People should know that this actor supports shit like extreme homophobia and white supremacy—he’ll deny it, of course, but his actions (which he tries to hide) have shown otherwise with what he chooses to support and associate himself with.

MondoMega said:
Pratt's performance in that trailer is terrible even ignoring that he as a person is terrible; but after the previous thread for the first trailer i'm not convinced a lot of people on this forum are capable of reasonably discussing this subject, so i'm not getting into it again.
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Honestly, I should really do the same. It just pisses me off so fucking much to see people ignore this shit and not care, so I try to point it out where I can…but, as you said, this forum has already shown to be largely unreasonable about this topic so I should probably just not even bother anymore…
 
bellydrum said:
I think the implication that Mario "levels" just exist floating there is funny
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I think the floating platforms and blocks aspect is crucial to the visual identity. Wouldn't feel complete without it.

I want it to reflect how I visualise the games, and it looks like my dream Mario game world, tbh.
 
Even without getting into Pratt just being the worst, he still sounds really bad and I'm not really feeling Peach. Jack Black is great though and Luigi is ok I guess. Still not particularly impressed but to be fair I never expected the first Sonic movie to be particularly good either, so I'll be willing to give this a shot.
 
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TreIII said:
Cranky was the Kong monarch sitting on his throne.



It's a change, but I'm getting to like it. I wouldn't mind this type of thing rolling over into the games. Especially if Kremlings are lurking around the corner as a rival "kingdom" for the Kongs!
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If they put Kremlings in these movies I'll retract any complaints i have about the portrayal of the kongs and erect a statue of Miyamoto

Well, I won't, but I'll think about it

thoughthaver said:
most people around the world wont be listening to pratt anyway. tis the beauty of dubs.
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One movie where I really wish the home video release had dub options. Most of the dubbed Mario versions sound great - Pratt sounds like the director told him "act mildly annoyed at everything you see," like that played out "grumpy self-aware" schtick you see so much in American TV/movies nowadays.

Japanese Mario sounds odd though. Overly moody and restrained. Which makes sense I guess because he's played by Chrollo Lucilfer.
 
Aether said:
  • The colors are poooopin. Feels like this will at least look great in Cinemas (or with a good OLED TV)
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Oiiiiii, I noticed that, too. I plan to finally buy something good next year, and this movie could be the first thing I use to test it out.
 
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The movie looks great!

Maronic03 said:
FRANCE IS HERE TO SAVE THE DAY!!!!!




LISTEN TO THAT WHAHOO
IT'S PERFECT
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Wow, literally every single one of those voices is better than the English ones. I wouldn’t mind watching the movie in French with subtitles.
 
TreIII said:
Oh, no, I think more and more, people have been able to walk and chew bubblegum in a case like this.

It's just that for the sake of some people who would ALWAYS want to default to "Y U GOTTA BRING POLITICS/HIS PERSONAL BELIEFS INTO THIS?!", it's far easier to convey just how crappy his actual performance is. Then feel free to loop in the other stuff.
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But that just further contributes to the discourse around the voice drowning out the more important criticism of Pratt. People should absolutely be talking about the other shit first and more than Pratt’s performance, wherever possible, because otherwise it’s just going to continue to be drowned out and swept under the rug. Again, just look at the ratio of criticisms about Pratt in this very thread—it’s still very much mostly about the voice acting than anything else, and this is a place where Pratt’s issues are actually more well known than most; just imagine how bad it is elsewhere where hardly anyone has been made aware of Pratt’s shittiness.
 
ILikeFeet said:
surely Daisy will be in this
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I'm starting to believe this; just a cameo, but she's the ruler of Sarasaland; the suspicious looking desert and the map tells me that much;

DK Island and Yoshi's Island will also be represented in the "war" they were going
 
Tye said:
But that just further contributes to the discourse around the voice drowning out the more important criticism of Pratt. People should absolutely be talking about the other shit first and more than Pratt’s performance, wherever possible, because otherwise it’s just going to continue to be drowned out and swept under the rug. Again, just look at the ratio of criticisms about Pratt in this very thread—it’s still very much mostly about the voice acting than anything else, and this is a place where Pratt’s issues are actually more well known than most; just imagine how bad it is elsewhere where hardly anyone has been made aware of Pratt’s shittiness.
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At this point, I think it's simply a matter of being "strategic" with your outrage and disdain. What causes Pratt supports and who he associates with? Obviously, yes, that's very important. And awareness is important, too.

But if you get enough people to keep on meme-ing about how much he and his voice acting SUCKS, it's the kind of thing that will spread in a viral fashion more than anything else. And thinned-skin individuals being as they are, it's the kind of thing they'll surely notice.

Dude got his fee-fees hurt just because Twitter "elected" him as the "Worst Chris" two years ago, to the point that portions of his "Marvel family" had to rush to his defense. :ROFLMAO:
 
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TreIII said:
At this point, I think it's simply a matter of being "strategic" with your outrage and disdain. What causes Pratt supports and who he associates with? Obviously, yes, that's very important. And awareness is important, too.

But if you get enough people to keep on meme-ing about how much he and his voice acting SUCKS, it's the kind of thing that will spread in a viral fashion more than anything else. And thinned-skin individuals being as they are, it's the kind of thing they'll surely notice.

Dude got his fee-fees hurt just because Twitter "elected" him as the "Worst Chris" two years ago, to the point that portions of his "Marvel family" had to rush to his defense. :ROFLMAO:
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I’m not saying anyone should stop criticizing him for his performance, just that a lot more people need to start criticizing the other shit alongside it at the very least, which isn’t really happening much at all right now.
 
WestEgg said:


Didn’t see a thread yet so figured I should make one. New trailer tomorrow. At 2pm PT/ 5pm ET. I am cautiously optimistic after the first trailer, looks like we’ll be seeing Peach this time around.

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This movie will be the single biggest event of 2023 ‼️
Hands down without a doubt ‼️
 
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Mekanos said:
If they put Kremlings in these movies I'll retract any complaints i have about the portrayal of the kongs and erect a statue of Miyamoto

Well, I won't, but I'll think about it


One movie where I really wish the home video release had dub options. Most of the dubbed Mario versions sound great - Pratt sounds like the director told him "act mildly annoyed at everything you see," like that played out "grumpy self-aware" schtick you see so much in American TV/movies nowadays.

Japanese Mario sounds odd though. Overly moody and restrained. Which makes sense I guess because he's played by Chrollo Lucilfer.
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I have mixed feelings on what I hear from Miyano Mamoru in this trailer. On the one hand, I've no doubt he's capable of deliverying energy/exuberance when needed. On the other hand, I think that in my head, I've forever type casted him in seemingly younger male roles. I did not expect him to voice Mario.
 
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Yep.Someone else put it best a while ago but...even things that were abound in the 80s and 90s would be too "woke" for putzes like this.

Like...Peach being more than a shrinking violet and perpetual damsel? Using a Fire Flower and other power-ups? That kind of shit is old news for those of us raised on the DiC Super Mario toons. And it honestly puts a smile on my face that at least somebody looked back and said "we could be doing this same thing now".

 
Still seeing people elsewhere say they should have had voice actors instead of actors do these parts, and it's like, what do you think voice actors are? Was listening to a great podcast the other day, I Hear Voices, hosted by Christy Carlson Romano and Will Freddie, both of Kim Possible fame, and every guest they have on, to a person, says if you want to get into voice acting you should get into acting first.
 
EvilChameleon said:
Still seeing people elsewhere say they should have had voice actors instead of actors do these parts, and it's like, what do you think voice actors are? Was listening to a great podcast the other day, I Hear Voices, hosted by Christy Carlson Romano and Will Freddie, both of Kim Possible fame, and every guest they have on, to a person, says if you want to get into voice acting you should get into acting first.
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There’s a reason why Tails maintaining his voice actor in Sonic 2 vs all of the other characters being celebrity cast was celebrated. Voice only actors deserve more respect and higher pay, that’s folks point.
 
EvilChameleon said:
Still seeing people elsewhere say they should have had voice actors instead of actors do these parts, and it's like, what do you think voice actors are? Was listening to a great podcast the other day, I Hear Voices, hosted by Christy Carlson Romano and Will Freddie, both of Kim Possible fame, and every guest they have on, to a person, says if you want to get into voice acting you should get into acting first.
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Another thing is that the ideal should be to utilize talent that has also has decent some voice talent chops, and not just big names for the sake of just getting a recognizable Hollywood personality attached to your project.

Like it's one thing to get some one like Idris Elba to play Movie!Knuckles, as he has quite a bit of voice acting chops to his credit. Ditto Jack Black for Movie!Bowser.
 
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Me talking with my partner about the Mario movie trailer and getting the dawning realization that the movie characterizations of Mario and Peach are just the generic "bumbling male lead character and hyper-competent female supporting character" pair...Mario gets to have his arc that Peach supports but won't get that much for herself...at least they could have made Mario more happy-go-lucky, less of a generic everyman hero, but they went for the most boring interpretation of this character...had a chance to go in any direction and this is what we get...

I fucking hate it here!!!
 
totofogo said:
There’s a reason why Tails maintaining his voice actor in Sonic 2 vs all of the other characters being celebrity cast was celebrated. Voice only actors deserve more respect and higher pay, that’s folks point.
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Colleen has a degree in theatre. Do you think she did absolutely no acting prior to becoming a VA?
 
Eh, a halbert-wielding Peach was too much for me( Not that I didn't expect the movie to go all-in on a defenseless Peach like in the main Mario games, but I think a halbert was too much), but other than that, the movie looks really good!

Obviously it is focusing on kids with its humor, but it looks like its going to be good fun.
 
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Tye said:
Honestly, I should really do the same. It just pisses me off so fucking much to see people ignore this shit and not care, so I try to point it out where I can…but, as you said, this forum has already shown to be largely unreasonable about this topic so I should probably just not even bother anymore…
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It is beyond rude for someone to dismiss you in providing background as to why Pratt should not be supported. Folks in this thread here clearly acted like it was only ever about his voice, then when you provide context you’re gaslit and basically recommended to stop talking about it for cause of it being pointless to. Of course no conversation here in our tiny community is going to overthrow a million dollar deal– that doesn’t make it any less important. Thank you for sharing.
 
TreIII said:
Also, I dig that LUIGI may be the damsel, this time, around.
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That dynamic actually kind of works. It wouldn't feel out if place in the games.

Skipper93653 said:
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She just ... starts taking charge!
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... That has got to be the most generic thing to be upset over. I always thought a head of state should laze about, feasting and drinking.

The isekai'd dude being terrified and clumsy and stuff seems like a pretty basic thing too. It's the generic stuff, you know? That's where they're really trying too hard.

(Halberd might be a case of the writer's not being able to figure how to write the character otherwise, though, which ... would really just add it to the pile of standard things here. I guess we'll find out how it all works.)

bellydrum said:
I think the implication that Mario "levels" just exist floating there is funny
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... hasn't that been the lore since at least Super Mario 64? I definitely recall staring off into the endless void.
 
It looks great honestly. They nailed what they had to nail with a Mario movie - it looks like a proper adventure.

Mario games are adventure games at the end of the day in which you encounter varied and fantastical environments that feature wacky, new and exciting scenarios with almost every new level. This trailer specifically shows that aspect off tremendously well with all the differenct scenarios and environments Mario seems to go through.
 
Walking my dog after watching the trailer and I'm humming the Mario theme song.

I certainly won't be sober walking into the theatre to watch it, but I'm excited nevertheless
 
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