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Discussion NVIDIA employee confirms existence of rumoured Switch 2 SoC

Literally all I care about at this stage is if it is backward compatible and digital purchases carry over.

I would be happy with 3 more years of the Switch ecosystem. Hopefully, this is halfway between a new console generation shift and a revision.

Something like what phones and tablets do.
 
Literally all I care about at this stage is if it is backward compatible and digital purchases carry over.

I would be happy with 3 more years of the Switch ecosystem. Hopefully, this is halfway between a new console generation shift and a revision.

Something like what phones and tablets do.

Nintendo might be strange, sometimes downright dumb, ignorant and oblivious, heck even crazy.

But there's two things i am willing to bet actual money on they're not going to be for Drake ... price and BC.

It doesn't even matter if it's dropped to the market as a successor or a Pro model, it has to have BC with base Switch, and it will be.
 
It absolutely will need to launch with a title to showcase the hardware and that has mass appeal, especially if this is a successor and not a revision.
Not really, its gonna sell alone on the fact thats its gonna be the most powerful Switch and in high demand.
Hell Mario Kart 8D was a premier title showcased when the SWOLED was shown.

You have to separate what you want to see and what we are likely gonna to see, from what they actually have to show to sell the systems.

Most people are already on board with a more powerful Switch that can play all previous released Switch games.

The Switch library is MASSIVE and the system will have access to it, what you are suggesting was importing during the Switch launch where they started from Zero and had to make sure that games like Zelda, Mario and Splatoon arrived early and fast on the system.
 
Literally all I care about at this stage is if it is backward compatible and digital purchases carry over.
I literally can’t envision a scenario where the new hardware does not support existing games, or where purchases don’t carry over.

A key part of the NX strategy was to build a platform for the future and not have to reinvent the wheel with each new system, which was unsustainable by mid-2010s standards and would only become more unsustainable over time as hardware and software increased in complexity. Nintendo is a big company but they’re dramatically smaller than most of the other companies developing software platforms, the Apples and Googles and Microsofts of the world. They needed to put all their wood behind one arrow.
 
Nintendo might be strange, sometimes downright dumb, ignorant and oblivious, heck even crazy.

But there's two things i am willing to bet actual money on they're not going to be for Drake ... price and BC.

It doesn't even matter if it's dropped to the market as a successor or a Pro model, it has to have BC with base Switch, and it will be.
I literally can’t envision a scenario where the new hardware does not support existing games, or where purchases don’t carry over.

A key part of the NX strategy was to build a platform for the future and not have to reinvent the wheel with each new system, which was unsustainable by mid-2010s standards and would only become more unsustainable over time as hardware and software increased in complexity. Nintendo is a big company but they’re dramatically smaller than most of the other companies developing software platforms, the Apples and Googles and Microsofts of the world. They needed to put all their wood behind one arrow.

I hope, hope, hope so. Console generation shifts always leave me nervous.

This one even more so due to the global supply situation...
 
Literally all I care about at this stage is if it is backward compatible and digital purchases carry over.

I would be happy with 3 more years of the Switch ecosystem. Hopefully, this is halfway between a new console generation shift and a revision.

Something like what phones and tablets do.
Just think of what will be the reaction of GENERAL customers, not just fans, when its : no, its backwards compatible, but you have to buy your games again. In a world where people take theyr purchases between platforms and generations all the time.
(Sony, XBox, Apple, Android)

And heres the reason why nintendo would care: it would essentially kill the interest in digital games.
Digital is way more profitable then physical (same price, better controll over resale and sales, no production/transortation/storage cost, no reseller cut, reaching with full diversity to rural markets and areas where there are no resellers, impulse buying...). They would lose a ton of money and goodwill,
and it would reduce their software sales in the long run by a lot. This would also strain
connections to other publishers, since those would also lose on digital sales because of that.

So yeah, no chance that they move on without letting you take your software with you.
 
Listen to Miyamoto before it is too late.

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It was under our noses the entire time: Pikmin 4K
 
It absolutely will need to launch with a title to showcase the hardware and that has mass appeal, especially if this is a successor and not a revision.
Obviously, crazy it needs to be stated. Nintendo will be there to the the launch of their next switch. The appeal of this thing will be very limited without patched and new games using its power.
 
A release of Pikmin 4 on the Drake will be the point where the on going decade will change for the better. The pandemic will vanish, fascist movements will disappear, we will tackle climate change on a global scale, hunger is taken care of and there will be only peace and freedom.

Thanks Pikmin 4. Can't wait!
 
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Wanted to go back to a TV-connected Switch for a while now. The wait is killing me, haha.
 
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Which system was that?
Wii U. Used a sort of hacked-together tri-core PowerPC 750 processor. Designed by IBM in my hometown of Rochester, MN! <3 Dogshit processor though, compared to what they could have gotten if they were willing to drop the dead-end PowerPC architecture.

I feel like a lot of time I defend Nintendo’s hardware decisions, because I do sort of grok their values and I can get what they’re going for a lot of the time. But that one was just baffling.
 
Not that weird

I mean... I can't play my 3DS games and Wii U games on the Switch. Where do you think all the calls for Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD on Switch are coming from?

I understand Switch was a special case in a different time... I just don't want Nintendo to have another "special case" with the follow-up. Especially when I've gone in a little further with their digital storefront on the Switch.

I don't necessarily think they will, but I still get nervous around this time in the console cycle... I can't help it.
 
I mean... I can't play my 3DS games and Wii U games on the Switch.

Think about it for more than 3 seconds and you'll realize why you can't play a 2 screen game on the Switch or why you can't put your WiiU disk in the Switch.

And this is just obvious physical incompatibilities. The main reason is simply the Switch being a completely different piece of tech with nothing in common with 3DS or WiiU.
 
Think about it for more than 3 seconds and you'll realize why you can't play a 2 screen game on the Switch or why you can't put your WiiU disk in the Switch.

And this is just obvious physical incompatibilities. The main reason is simply the Switch being a completely different piece of tech with nothing in common with 3DS or WiiU.

In the same comment you are replying to I basically agree with what you just said.

So I did... think about it more than "3 seconds...?"
 
Think about it for more than 3 seconds and you'll realize why

that’s not very fami

let’s keep this place full of ✨good vibes✨ we can disagree, even vehemently, without talking down to each other
 
In the same comment you are replying to I basically agree with what you just said.

So I did... think about it more than "3 seconds...?"

Then what is the point of doubting something Nintendo already confirmed they intend to do, knowing full well why it didn't happen, also knowing that not having BC is actually harmful to N's financial.

It's like asking "are we sure Nintendo is actually not going 3rd party"?
 
Fretting about a potential lack of BC at this point may as well be concern trolling.

They’ve built a massive platform with a back catalogue of games that they want to sell to people. They may try some nickel and dimey shit where they charge an upgrade fee to unlock some features, but your library and access to everything on the eShop will be there.
 
I mean... I can't play my 3DS games and Wii U games on the Switch. Where do you think all the calls for Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD on Switch are coming from?

I understand Switch was a special case in a different time... I just don't want Nintendo to have another "special case" with the follow-up. Especially when I've gone in a little further with their digital storefront on the Switch.

I don't necessarily think they will, but I still get nervous around this time in the console cycle... I can't help it.
Doing the same thing that lead to the wii us failure would be weird. I think the fear is unfounded
 
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Then what is the point of doubting something Nintendo already confirmed they intend to do, knowing full well why it didn't happen, also knowing that not having BC is actually harmful to N's financial.

It's like asking "are we sure Nintendo is actually not going 3rd party"?

Nintendo has a history of a clean break between console generations and digital purchases not carrying over. Even if the hardware/software circumstances were different. That, combined with the global supply uncertainty just makes me a little nervous about this particular console generation switchover as I communicated.

I even said I don't think Nintendo will handle that way this time. I was just a little nervous because the Switch is such a home run for me this many years into its life cycle and I'm afraid of change. (lol)

I don't think discussing how console generation shifts have a tendency to make me a little nervous is the same as something ridiculous as "Nintendo is going 3rd party" but if you want to make that stretch go ahead I guess.

Fretting about a potential lack of BC at this point may as well be concern trolling.

Not trying to troll I promise. Nintendo has been knocking it out of the ballpark for me. Just discussing how aspects of a console generation shift (not just Nintendo, but all of the big three) can make me nervous.

I'll just shut up.
 
I understand Switch was a special case in a different time... I just don't want Nintendo to have another "special case" with the follow-up. Especially when I've gone in a little further with their digital storefront on the Switch.
It won't be a special case this time. Nintendo has only one platform now, and Drake i.e. Switch 2 will have the same media type (cartridges, eShop downloads), same form factor (tablet, detachable controllers), same vendor they are partnering with (Nvidia), same instruction set architecture (ARM)., at the minimum.

Nintendo has had a history of BC when feasible, especially when continuing a brand, or even when starting a new one.
GB -> GBC -> GBA
GBA -> DS
DS -> 3DS
GameCube -> Wii
Wii -> Wii U

Even in cases where the form factor was different (GBA -> DS), they went out of their way to include compatibility because of the large userbase of the previous console.

They're selling this as a new Switch, regardless of the name they know that if something is named a Switch, people expect to play Switch games on it. Whether it's Switch 1 or Switch 2 games. Especially when many Switch 1 games are still sold at full price.
 
Not trying to troll I promise. Nintendo has been knocking it out of the ballpark for me. Just discussing how aspects of a console generation shift (not just Nintendo, but all of the big three) can make me nervous.

I'll just shut up.
I’m sorry, you’re good. I probably conflate the alarmist discourse on Burple Borum with the wider discussion more than I should.

This place and the opinions of those here is not that.
 
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Nintendo has a history of a clean break between console generations and digital purchases not carrying over.
Is it really a history of doing something when they only did it once? The only time digital purchases didn't carry over was on Switch.
 
not a chance, pikmin the goat baybee
It's about time Pikmin got it's chance to be a launch title. I'll never forget how pleasantly surprised I was when I got Pikmin, didn't really know much about the game at that time, with my GameCube that Christmas and would love to have that feeling again.
 
People thinking backwards compatibility when it's obvious Nintendo is throwing us for another loop with not reverting to two concurrent systems but having three different ones.
 
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Still don’t understand where the general notion of Nintendo being bad with BC actually comes from lol

It came the stress of me trying to find the 3DS Fire Emblem games to play this week before Engage comes out next year! I promise that's all it was! I didn't mean anything by it! I promise!

lol

Plus Nintendo continuing to hold the Wii U ports I want the most over my head to this day.
 
after so many years of Nintendo handhelds having BC it's been weird for me to have to pick up my 3DS to play 3DS games
 


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