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Discussion This is the first generation ever where being "Nintendo only" is actually feasible to me

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It's not only that Nintendo's offerings + indie + bigger third parties have been Nintendo's best in generations, but what the hell is going on with the rest of the industry?

The complete lack of anything I find compelling on competing platforms this generation is almost worrying to me at this point. Gaming outside the Nintendo bubble feels dead to me. I don't think this is an age thing either... it's more like this new generation has been a complete bust. Maybe this will change as the generation matures but rn I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything here or even announced for other platforms. I'm actually at a point where there are more third party remasters/remakes that interest me than new games.

I attribute this to covid/rising development costs/no risks being taken/third parties getting snatched up.

It's kind of a downer tbh.
 
I see where you're coming from. To be fair, though, the PS5 and XSX are still on the newer side, whereas the Switch is closer to the tail end of its lifespan, which naturally translates to its library being a more robust one. Add the COVID factor, among others, and their impact on game development (which you've acknowledged), and yeah, I think there's no harm in waiting to purchase one of the newer consoles. I bought a PS5 last year, and hardly use it. It's a decent enough system, but so obviously still in its infancy. I hope the next few years give me a lot to look forward to.
 
Definitely feel like PC and Switch only is the smart choice this generation, at least for my taste. I got my hands on a PS5 digital at retail price and it has just wallowed after Rift Apart.

But Switch only? I dunno. Nintendo doesn't cater to my taste nearly enough to be able to float that (though my backlog of 20+ indies on there would probably disagree)
 
Yeah, I agree.

I don't know what it is exactly and I've been asking this myself several times. I think for me it might be a combination of being mostly attached to Nintendo's franchises in comparison to what other big publishers offer, then not having that much time for playing big games (I would love to dive into games like Monster Hunter and Xenoblade but right now it's just not feasible, so even less feasible to buy another console for games like these) and an interest in indie developers, who are very present on the Switch. So in the end, there's just no need for other platforms for me.

I think I'm not in a position to judge the games on the other platforms as a whole though, because I have been less interested in Sony's and Microsoft's games (as well as the other big western publishers) forever basically. So I'm not sure if anything has fundamentally changed in their portfolios besides less output in general.
 
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hard to say because it’s very dependent on individual taste. I totally understand that the current gen has nothing interesting for specific persons, but I wouldn’t agree that Nintendo‘s first party output is „the best in generations“, neither do they have a majority of indie titles I‘d be interested in. 3rd party output is great when you want to play some classics (Dark Souls/Assassins Creed etc) but is really lacking at current gen titles.
Especially the Xbox is quite attractive with its expansive backwards compatibility, low price point and Game Pass. I do agree that current releases may not be very interesting but as others said, COVID is the reason for that and Nintendos output is suffering from that as well.
 
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Yeah this might actually be the first generation since I started playing where I didn't own at least two of the currently supported consoles.

A lot of that though is down to my interests - I'm mainly interested in Japanese games and during last generation, Sony in particular has become less relevant in that regard and the fact that the overwhelming majority of "mainstream" (read: non-eroge) Japanese devs now also support PC gaming (though with very varying degrees of... success and there's quite a few games where no PC version exists (yet)) has made owning a console outside of Nintendo redundant for me, at least for the purposes of playing.

Might still pick up one of the "4K twins" (and it's likely the PS5) since I want to get into 4K BDs and these two devices are apparently the only way to get 4K playback these days.
 
I agree mainly because almost all of my gaming time nowadays goes to indies and Switch is getting most of them in addition to being the most convenient way to enjoy these games for me.
 
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I will agree that it's been a rough couple years for finding interesting AAA video games, but you also need something like a gaming PC to really experience the best that gaming has to offer. If you like regularly playing online games with friends, there isn't much to do on the Switch.
 
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There's been some absolute bangers on XSX/XSS/PS5/PC this year, an abundance of indies, Game Pass and PS+ are stronger than ever, Valve just released the Deck and it's already thriving with a big community.

Subjectively I'd say you were wrong, objectively I'd say you are very wrong.

While it is very valid to game Switch-only, to say that the rest of the industry is dead is very disrespectful and not helping the community at large at all.
 
I agree with the overall sentiment I think, but third parties getting snatched up and no risks being taken also effects Nintendo I would say. Even with Indies it feels like a lot of them follow a formula that makes sense to sell. But obviously not nearly as much as big AAA publishers. Nintendo themselves could, for my taste, also take more risks but I am happy we get weird stuff like Labo and Ring Fit in between the sequels and ports/remasters/remakes.

Edit: The "overall sentiment" being that I am happy with just Nintendo consoles right now, until FF7 Rebirth comes out I guess lol
 
When it comes to third parties, I'm mainly interested in Japan. And Switch has almost all the Japanese support I could ask for. There are still a few titles on the other consoles I enjoy, such as the Yakuza series, but more and more games are coming over. We just got both Persona and NieR. Yeah, they're late ports, but that's pretty remarkable to me considering where Nintendo used to be.
 
I only had a Wii and a DS and then a Wii U and a 3DS, although I eventually gave up and got a PS4 in around 2016. I have a PS5 now, but could easily live with just a Switch. More than anything it's due to the abundance of high quality indie games available on the eShop, but obviously the first party output has been great too. There are also brilliant third party games like Doom and Divinity Original Sin 2.
 
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While it is very valid to game Switch-only, to say that the rest of the industry is dead is very disrespectful and not helping the community at large at all.
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I don't see the issue with what OP said in particular, though; it's what/how they feel, nothing more, nothing less...
Kreese said:
The complete lack of anything I find compelling on competing platforms this generation is almost worrying to me at this point. Gaming outside the Nintendo bubble feels dead to me
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I disagree with this feeling/observation myself, btw, but at the same time still kind of get where this sentiment is coming from, despite rocking Switch, PC + Deck on my end.
 
I probably could go Nintendo only, glad I don't have to and strongly disagree on the sentiment that gaming outside of the "Nintendo bubble" has been a bust. Aside from some growing pains mostly related to Covid, hardware availability and some companies here and there (Ubisoft for example) things are looking pretty decent overall.
 
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It depends on what you mean by "feasible". I was Nintendo only in the Gamecube/GBA era (and the N64/GBC era technically, but I was young and got it on that one late anyways). From 2001 to 2006, there were enough games coming out between the two platforms that there was always something that interested me and I never felt like I didn't have enough to play until the very tail end of the generation, a few months before the Wii came out, and even then the DS was getting a good amount of stuff. Plus games like Baten Kaitos Origins and Chibi-Robo vaguely interested me but I didn't have the money, so really I'd say it felt feasible without droughts (counting both platforms together). However, in retrospect I missed a lot of genuinely great games. A ton of PS2 JRPGs that I later found to love like FFX, DQ8, and SMT Nocturne. Games that were cultural touchstones like DDR/Guitar Hero, Halo CE&2, and the GTA trilogy. And a lot of really cool random shit, from Katamari to Breakdown to Gitaroo Man to Phantom Dust.

So after that, I never wanted that to happen again. So I bought a 360/PS3/PSP/PS4/Xbox One/Vita, went back and got a couple of the older consoles. To me it's worth it to drop a few hundred on a console every now and then and keep around a bunch of hardware if it means I'll always have access to buy almost any game I'd possibly want to play. With how much stuff is multiplatform now you can just have one of a PC/PS5/Xbox Series and not miss much, though, so I just have a gaming PC and I'm skipping the PS5 and Xbox for now (only exception would be if something like FF7R3 or Persona 6 doesn't come out on PC).

To go back to the question, though, I feel like I probably could have owned only Nintendo platforms and kept myself entertained, especially as someone who has participated in competitive Smash and also could have technically fueled their Rock Band addiction on the Wii instead of the 360 from 2009-2012. The only time I feel like this might have not been true was the 3DS/Wii U era, but even then the 3DS's library has more depth than most give it credit for I think, though I can't say I don't think I would have felt bitter seeing the damn PS3 get more relevant releases than the Wii U did during its lifespan.

I'll also say that I agree that the modern industry hasn't been great outside of stuff that's available on the Switch, but like, there are games that don't come out on the Switch that I want to play. And even if they turn out to not be amazing, the curiosity of not being able to play them would kill me. Like, I played and enjoyed Scarlet Nexus a good deal a few months ago. It's not on the Switch. Is it such an amazing game that I just had to play it? Well, no not at all really, but in respect to my own personal finances, the cost of buying the hardware needed to play it wouldn't outweigh the cost of the FOMO I'd get if I didn't, plus it is a pretty damn good game anyways.
 
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I agree that the Switch is incredibly strong. Amazing 1st and 3rd party support and the games just keep on coming.

There's some gaping holes in the Switch's library when it comes to multiplayer titles, though. Stuff like Call of Duty, Destiny 2, FFXIV, League of Legends, etc. But if you only care about single player games, or are content with getting your multiplayer fix from stuff like Splatoon 2, then that doesn't matter much.

I like to own as many systems as I can, just so that I can experience great games no matter what platform they release on. So I don't think being Nintendo-only is ideal, but if that's the situation you find yourself in then I think you'll be alright. You certainly have it much better than I did when I was a Nintendo-only kid in the late 90s and early 2000s.
 
The "covid/rising development costs/no risks being taken/third parties getting snatched up" is exactly why I don't look elsewhere too. I'm having plenty of fun with my Switch and the combination of Nintendo and indie games (together with remasters and occasional exclusives, bigger ports). The portability aspect is also a big reason but if there were no games like on Wii U I would probably just not game at all.
 
From a console gaming perspective, yes. I never owned anything other than Nintendo hardware. But PC is still a important platform for me and before Switch and through my childhood I mainly played on PC expect for Nintendo games or local Multiplayer stuff with friends on Wii/DS/PS2.

There are so many great third party and indie games exclusive to PC and I couldn‘t play certain games like Cities Skylines or Minecraft without Mods.

I would say though that Switch is my main platform now because of its easy to use portable nature (and already liking Nintendo games which is kinda obvious), which fits my current lifestyle of commuting by train a lot or not wanting to sit in front of a desktop only to play like a quick round of Tetris Effect.

If a game comes out for it and runs well enough, I want to play it on Switch.
 
Gamecube era is pretty underrated in this regard. Up until the GCN disc size became a problem for third parties to port their games, GCN almost got every majot third party release. This included: Every single NFS and Tony Hawk game, major EA console releases like Medal of Honor and The Sims, every major Ubisoft release including Prince of Persia and Splinter Cell release...

Stuff GCN had missed had valid reasons, like Rockstar couldn't fit games into smaller discs, some Japanese publishers having exclusivity contracts (DMC, FF, Silent Hill), smaller European studios not having access to devkits etc.

Switch has a meaty library but is too behind in terms of diversity. 5 years on and still no football game on the system...
 
I'm pretty much Switch (+3DS) these days. I've never had any PS or XB hardware. Dabbled a bit in PC and mobile, mostly management sims. I have no idea how people are able to be so comprehensively multi-platform. I feel like I spend a lot of time gaming and yet I do only a fraction of what you lot do.

Where do the hours come from to play several hundred hour JRPGs on Switch, then several AAA's on PS, then dunk hundreds of hours into multiplayer shooters in XB, then also play every indie that comes out across Switch and GamePass, then spend many hours indulging in nostalgia trips on NSO?

That being said, even I can recognise that there is still plenty going on outside my comfortable Nintendo bubble. Like there was this little game recently that missed the Switch. What was it called? Lanayru Lanyard?
 
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I can’t be Nintendo-only, way too much interesting stuff on other platforms to ignore them. Especially PC.

That said I still have no plans to buy PS5. Though I kind of expected it since the PS4 hasn’t been very interesting for me either
 
No space for me for other consoles or PC, also barely any time at this point to do myluch gaming at all. Switch alone is too much for me to keep up with
 
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I can’t be Nintendo-only, way too much interesting stuff on other platforms to ignore them. Especially PC.
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This is me. For example: So long as stuff like Ace Combat 7, Nioh and the upcoming Wo Long is going to continue to miss Nintendo platforms, I'm going to always need alternates. It also is nice to have alternates because I'm sure even some multiplatform games are going to perform better elsewhere, if I value that.

Steamdeck has also reconnected me with PC gaming in a way I haven't done so in like 20 years. And it's a good feeling, knowing that between Switch, Steamdeck and PS5, I've got my gaming bases covered for the foreseeable future.
 
Due to budget restrictions, I was always Nintendo + low-end PC. I remember the PS360 gen, where I missed many things I want to play.

Well, this feeling is practically nonexistent now, since most PS4/X1 games that piqued my interest are being ported to Switch and nothing in PS5/Xbox Series has caught my eye yet. So yeah, I agree.
 
Switch & 3DS for me these days 80 percent of the time, and the last 20 percent to my Vita (which includes PS1 and PSP games).

I have zero interest as of now in a PS5. I have said it before. The PS4 lost me. Got one, and hardly played it. Only games I played to completion was Tomb Raider Reboot Remaster, Dark Souls 3, Spider-Man, Last of us Remaster, and God of War. Sony went on a whole in a different direction after PS3 (one can argue the tail-end of the PS3) where their vision for gaming does not align with mine.

PC is an option, but I just cancelled my Steam Deck pre-order because aside from being too expensive, I looked at my shelf and realized I have a bunch of Switch games yet to play and same with 3DS (and don't get me started on my digital only titles). I think I am.... good.

And if Switch 2 is backwards compatible, my backlog is going to get worse.
 
PC + Nintendo platform and then the Sony console of the generation a couple years down the line when it's cheaper and has build up a bit of a library is probably going to be my combo going forward, but Switch alone wouldn't be remotely enough to cover what I look for in games, there's stuff missing I play on the regular.
 
I could be okay as a Switch-only owner. It's definitely the strongest Nintendo console since the GameCube and SNES in that regard.

But the best game I have played all year (Elden Ring) is only on PS/Xbox so hard disagree. Plus I would have missed out on Sifu, Stray, Tunic, Forbidden West, GT7, Ragnarok, and more.

So I don't really follow the argument that quality/variety is down on the other platforms. There has been a slight dip in production over the last year or two do to pandemic/new gen, but over the last decade I would say the software landscape is the best it has been since the PS2 era.
 
I've been a staunch advocate of Nintendo + PC since the "WiiC" days, but I don't think I could do strictly Nintendo only. It's certainly tempting at least as for the console side of things but that would easily lock me out from big budget JRPGs for most of a generation (my assumption is they'll hit either as very late ports with obvious tradeoffs or arrive on the following generation). But there's certain genres that I'd prefer to play on PC like digital board games and point & click adventures, and the platform is a great incubator for indies and smaller projects (which often end up on Switch eventually).

But yea, the modern console and AAA stuff just doesn't really do it for me with very few exceptions. I could see myself getting a PS5 years down the line but right now the lack of appealing software (I am not paying $500 for a system that can play less than 5 games I'm interested in) and the offputting aesthetics of the device make it a complete non-starter for me. And if I'm reading the tea leaves correctly most of my PS4 library is going to be on Switch in the coming years so I might just be getting off the Sony train entirely at this point.
 
Kreese said:
It's not only that Nintendo's offerings + indie + bigger third parties have been Nintendo's best in generations, but what the hell is going on with the rest of the industry?
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Tbh, outside of the internet - where I don't have a social circle - really nobody I know has a PS5 or XBox Series, but almost everyone has a Switch. (In fact, I know one person who had a PS5, but never got games for it, so he sold it, and my friend's 10-year-old son has one, and plays NBA 2k22 on it - the one game I want a PS5 for).
 
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Even tho I bought a PS4 I only played vanilla Persona 5 and Horizon Zero Dawn there. There is just not other stuff that I like that is not releasing on Switch and even so I can wait since the Switch has so many games that I like to replace those I would like to play that don't get a Switch release (Tales of Arise, Tales of Berseria, Soul Hackers 2)

Games like 13 Sentinels, Ys8, Ys9, Trials of Mana, Bravely Default 2, Triangle Strategy, NeoTWEWY, Original Sin 2, Hellblade 1, Immortal Fenix just keep me busy and I don't even miss those I cannot play on Switch. I really dont give an F about performance and resolution so the Switch works for me. I haven't touched my PS4 since 2018.

I also have a full time job so it's not like I can play games all day and I'm also very slow (it took my 85 hours to beat 13 Sentinels, 250h for NeoTWEWY, 50h for Metroid Dread, 210h for Original Sin 2, 215h for DQ11 and so on and so one) and games take me months to finish
 
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I have zero interest as of now in a PS5. I have said it before. The PS4 lost me. Got one, and hardly played it.
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Same. I played the first Tomb Raider reboot, and a couple of the Uncharted games, but really only use my PS4 for WWE 2K.

My Switch is my third-party machine, if it's an option. If it's not, I have a long backlog of games, so I won't miss anything.
 
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I’m ok with just a Switch these days, but it’s mostly because it’s the last portable left standing (can’t be bothered to order a Deck) and there’s more than enough on it for me between Nintendo first party, indies and rpgs. There’s a handful of games on PS4 I’d still like to play one day but nothing that’s really shouted out to me as being essential. I only get to play through a dozen or so games a year anyway so multiple platforms doesn’t make as much sense for me now as it did 14 years ago when I had a PSP, DS, Wii and PS3 in constant rotation. Or even 7 years ago when I was swapping between a 3DS and Vita (and a WiiU that I barely touched).
 
I don’t think it’s a downer at all, especially when you consider that this trend was building up since over a decade ago

During Gen 7 we saw that AAA games weren’t very sustainable and that HD development meant that we wouldn’t be getting the same breadth of titles that we had during Gen 6. As for Gen 8 we saw the diminishing returns between newer hardware. Switch was a pretty big turning point since it meant two things for Nintendo, first off they weren’t literally a gen behind in terms of power like the Wii. On top of that, they are finally getting games that were previously exclusive to other systems, it’s not like the Wii U which had a bunch of games that could run on the system but skipped it. Now almost everything that can run on Switch releases on it, sometimes we even have a few surprises of them going the extra mile to make sure that a game that makes sense to be on Switch can run properly on it. Even though these ports can be late there are still enough games on the system to keep you busy in between major releases.

Essentially this just means that Nintendo has actually good third party support for the first time since the SNES (Gamecube was fine too but PS2 domination was too much, it had way too many exclusive titles that would run on either console). I don’t think it’s especially concerning that Nintendo isn’t totally isolated from the rest of the industry for once. People often said that they didn’t feel like buying a whole new Nintendo console because it wouldn’t do anything besides playing the first party games, this hurt the Wii U and 3DS especially. Now people that enjoy Nintendo games can just play everything they are interested in on one place. The roles are basically reversed now, instead of buying a whole new console for just Nintendo first party (which are a pretty select number of games) you are buying another console for their decreasing amount of first party or next gen exclusives. I feel like it’s a much better situation for everyone interested in Nintendo games since you save much more money this way, especially considering that those other games actually get substantial price drops down the line
 
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I actually agree, but why'd you have to turn this against everyone else. You could go solo Switch on its merits alone, no need to bring down the other consoles. Switch is a beast on the first party, indie and even third party port front
 
I’m all Switch and really happy with it.

I’m a bit out of the loop with PS and Xbox, what I know of the first-party library doesn’t appeal to me that much but 3rd-party games and Game Pass I know are pretty great.

NES and SNES were fine gens to be Nintendo only.
 
I can say, when the Switch released...my PS4 Pro was lucky to see a game or two a year from me. Even now, my PS5 is mainly a Genshin Impact machine between major exclusives that interest me.

My Series X gets a lot of attention though, however since launch Switch has been my primary gaming device without debate as well.
 
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I actually agree, but why'd you have to turn this against everyone else. You could go solo Switch on its merits alone, no need to bring down the other consoles. Switch is a beast on the first party, indie and even third party port front
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While true (I actually like MS's box a lot even if I may never get one cause, time and shit), I am down on Sony a lot these days for the reasons I stated. They were up there with me. I adored the PS3, but they just shifted priorities with the PS4 and changed in a way I don't like. I felt like the PS3 was the last time we got a fantastic variety of games akin to the PS2 and PS1, and right now it feels like modern Disney in a way, and it bores me for the most part. Their last great product they put out for myself personally was the Vita, which I love. And it was a great little handheld that was great NOT because of Sony, but everyone else. PSP and Vita were incredible and complimented my DS and 3DS quite well.
 
I couldn't do ANY single console only. Always need some PC in there.

But the best combo right now is for sure Switch + PC. Got my Nintendo, indies, and big AAA games covered.
 
I think NES, SNES, and even GCN were better generations to be Nintendo-only (although GCN+GBA might be outside the intended parameters?).
 
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Kreese said:
It's not only that Nintendo's offerings + indie + bigger third parties have been Nintendo's best in generations, but what the hell is going on with the rest of the industry?

The complete lack of anything I find compelling on competing platforms this generation is almost worrying to me at this point. Gaming outside the Nintendo bubble feels dead to me. I don't think this is an age thing either... it's more like this new generation has been a complete bust. Maybe this will change as the generation matures but rn I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything here or even announced for other platforms. I'm actually at a point where there are more third party remasters/remakes that interest me than new games.

I attribute this to covid/rising development costs/no risks being taken/third parties getting snatched up.

It's kind of a downer tbh.
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I bought a PS5 and Series X at launch and I’ve probably played my Switch more than both combined although a lot of that has been using the OLED model in handheld mode.

Nothing on Xbox that I couldn’t have played on my One X and only Demons Souls, Ratchet and Returnal that I couldn’t have played on my PS4 Pro have been worth it but I mainly bought them for future titles especially Series X.
 
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Lord Azrael said:
I actually agree, but why'd you have to turn this against everyone else. You could go solo Switch on its merits alone, no need to bring down the other consoles. Switch is a beast on the first party, indie and even third party port front
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The other platforms lacking what I want is a major part in this, and as I said, that's a bummer to me. If there was a ton of games on the other platforms that I was interested in, I'd probably be spending less time on my Switch, but as it stands 98% of my time has been on Switch.
 
Switch + PC is the best combo imo but switch only would mean missing out on way too many games I love (or settling for poorly performing versions of them)
 
I'm Switch-only this gen and I'm quite satisfied.

From first party gems like BOTW, Mario Odyssey, Metroid Dread, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, and Xenoblade 2/3, to excellent third party contributions like Monster Hunter Rise, Doom 2016/Eternal, Witcher 3, Hellblade, Ori 1 & 2, etc, it offers enough on its own to keep me thoroughly entertained.

Heck, I can't even keep up with the amount of awesome games coming out these days; I haven't even finished Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak, just started Xenoblade 3, and haven't even begun FIST Forged in Shadow Torch yet, and the next few months are about to further bombard me with Splatoon 3, Nier Automata, and Bayonetta 3.

More than any other Nintendo system since the SNES, the Switch makes me feel that I don't need another platform to keep myself adequately supplied with great games. I'm as happy as Donkey Kong on a banana farm and haven't been this content as a gamer since, heck, 2010 I think.
 
I’ve been “Nintendo only” my whole life and have always had a huge backlog of games that I want to play on my Nintendo systems alone regardless, all the while never having any desire to play what’s on other systems, so that’s nothing new for me with Switch. 🤷
 
I felt that both Playstation and Xbox are not very attractive choices for me, because not only are they set up consoles which I don't really have the time for them, but they also require an online subscription for some of the services, which means that I don't feel like it's worth it for how little I am likely to spend with them. At least with Nintendo, their games are something I grew up with, and PC is a lot more flexible than PS/Xbox to get into, not to mention how much variety PC games have.

Thank you for reading.
 
Switch is great , I was having a convo with a friend whose last console was the GameCube and generally has left console gaming to PC (we became friends via a PC game) and he said how much he loves his Switch. He's Switch/PC currently.

The issue really isn't how it's a replacement for a PS5 or Series S/X. Not only are those consoles newer, they have well established ecosystems by this point that carries prior users over. Whether Nintendo does that with Switch 2 (I certainly think they will) remains to be seen, but if you're not embedded in those 2 ecosystems, Switch is a great main console choice, if you are embedded in those other ecoystems and not a fanboy, Switch still a great platform to own as a multi-plat owner as a legitiate 3rd or 2nd platform in th ehome.

At this point, I think given the software on offer, I would argue Switch isn't the secondary console some people thought it was going to be in 2017 (a neat novelty for Nintendo only games) though those type of owners still pop up here and there. Switch is fine existing a someone's primary console and it is a statement that can apply to a huge segment of the existing Switch userbase and by extension a huge segment of the console market.
 
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Relinquish a PC? Not for me. Give me 2K and 4K at locked framerates with complex CPU systems chugging on turn based combat cycles every day of the week thank you.
 
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