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News Persona 5 Royal coming to PS5/Xbox/PC on October 21; Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4 Golden coming soon digitally to PS4/Xbox/PC and Game Pass

There is zero point in Nintendo paying for ports because it would set a precedent that is already being displayed currently. It’s one of the reasons why I disapprove of Nintendo’s SE deal because it branched out to other companies making for some really weird decisions.
On the other hand if it wasn't for Nintendo's publishing deal with SE I doubt we would be getting Team Asano games in the west and the marketing for any DQ games on the Switch would be just as terrible as it is for the other systems.
 
I'm just happy P3 is available on modern platforms and that it's getting a FIGS localization alongside P4G.
I still would have liked them to do a modern remake of P3 so they could make a TRUE definitive edition of that game, but I guess beggars can't be choosers.
Agreed. Last (and first) time I played Persona 3 was the FES version on my PS3… I really need a release of that bad boy.

I’m still surprised though that the mainseries got announced for the Xbox first. I know Microsoft really wants to put some effort to get these games on the platform as well, but I always feel that like five people on the platform want to play it 😅
 
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On the other hand if it wasn't for Nintendo's publishing deal with SE I doubt we would be getting Team Asano games in the west and the marketing for any DQ games on the Switch would be just as terrible as it is for the other systems.
Sure it took until BD for SE to see how their games could sell out west. But that remains an SE problem for any game that isn’t FF out west. They need to do better in general yet they routinely fail at this.
 
Sure it took until BD for SE to see how their games could sell out west. But that remains an SE problem for any game that isn’t FF out west. They need to do better in general yet they routinely fail at this.
Yes and it is because they routinely fail at marketing these titles that having a publishing deal with Nintendo is for the best. Otherwise if left with SE these games would either be Japan-exclusive or marketed so poorly that they would fail to sell enough to warrant their release (see NTWEWY).
 
There is zero point in Nintendo paying for ports because it would set a precedent that is already being displayed currently. It’s one of the reasons why I disapprove of Nintendo’s SE deal because it branched out to other companies making for some really weird decisions.
Nintendo gets exclusives at least from SE case, only series that gets special treatment from Nintendo is Dragon Quest.
 
The motivation for Nintendo to buy ports of games like Persona are different than Microsoft's reasoning. Phill Spencer has been given the authority to write big checks to sell Game Pass, even if that means losing money in the short term. He said in the presentation that he wants Xbox owners to know that he wants Japanese games on Xbox so he probably put in a lot of money for one of the most Japanese series out there, Persona.

Nintendo already has Japanese games of course, especially JRPGs. Persona does not offer an experience that is lacking on the system. Nintendo has their own series like Pokemon and Fire Emblem plus a good number of games from Square through their marketing/publishing deals. Then of course the Switch has Atlus' own SMT V. While Nintendo would be happy to have these games, they are probably not going to pay well above their worth just to have them on the system. Persona 5 specifically is popular but it's not THAT popular, at least compared to other series they could go after. Having the games on the system doesn't change the narrative of the system like it does with Xbox.

Nintendo isn't the type of game just spends a ton of money and not expect some immediate return. There's a limit to how much Persona is worth to Nintendo and they are not going to pay above that. This all assumes that the Persona games are not coming to Switch of course. I think there's a change that they do get announced later but any ports would more for the benefit of Sega and Atlus, not Nintendo.
 
Yes and it is because they routinely fail at marketing these titles that having a publishing deal with Nintendo is for the best. Otherwise if left with SE these games would either be Japan-exclusive or marketed so poorly that they would fail to sell enough to warrant their release (see NTWEWY).
I know why they have a marketing deal with Nintendo. But that still doesn’t excuse their inability to both localize & market their games outside of FF.
Nintendo gets exclusives at least from SE case, only series that gets special treatment from Nintendo is Dragon Quest.
All of Asano’s games get special treatment from Nintendo it’s not just DQ. Hell even some of the other minor game do as well.

Regardless I don’t see Nintendo shelling out for late ports nor should they.
 
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The motivation for Nintendo to buy ports of games like Persona are different than Microsoft's reasoning. Phill Spencer has been given the authority to write big checks to sell Game Pass, even if that means losing money in the short term. He said in the presentation that he wants Xbox owners to know that he wants Japanese games on Xbox so he probably put in a lot of money for one of the most Japanese series out there, Persona.

Nintendo already has Japanese games of course, especially JRPGs. Persona does not offer an experience that is lacking on the system. Nintendo has their own series like Pokemon and Fire Emblem plus a good number of games from Square through their marketing/publishing deals. Then of course the Switch has Atlus' own SMT V. While Nintendo would be happy to have these games, they are probably not going to pay well above their worth just to have them on the system. Persona 5 specifically is popular but it's not THAT popular, at least compared to other series they could go after. Having the games on the system doesn't change the narrative of the system like it does with Xbox.

Nintendo isn't the type of game just spends a ton of money and not expect some immediate return. There's a limit to how much Persona is worth to Nintendo and they are not going to pay above that. This all assumes that the Persona games are not coming to Switch of course. I think there's a change that they do get announced later but any ports would more for the benefit of Sega and Atlus, not Nintendo.
Nah, they’ve should’ve tried long ago to get Persona on the system. Same with Grand Theft Auto. I largely agree with you but there’s special franchises like those two that help long term and short term.

But in the meantime… keep putting Persona style elements in Fire Emblem and see what happens lol
 
Nah, they’ve should’ve tried long ago to get Persona on the system. Same with Grand Theft Auto. I largely agree with you but there’s special franchises like those two that help long term and short term.

But in the meantime… keep putting Persona style elements in Fire Emblem and see what happens lol
Fire Emblem had Persona elements before Persona even existed tho. If you mean the school setting I have always found it quite different to persona but I can see it
 
Nah, they’ve should’ve tried long ago to get Persona on the system. Same with Grand Theft Auto. I largely agree with you but there’s special franchises like those two that help long term and short term.

But in the meantime… keep putting Persona style elements in Fire Emblem and see what happens lol

There's a large gap in revenue potential between Grand Theft Auto and Persona. I know Persona fans like to pretend that the series is much bigger than it actually is but no. Even mentioning Persona in the same breadth as GTA is delusional.
 
There's a large gap in revenue potential between Grand Theft Auto and Persona. I know Persona fans like to pretend that the series is much bigger than it actually is but no. Even mentioning Persona in the same breadth as GTA is delusional.
My point is that Persona is very big in JAPAN and has a sizable fanbase in other places of the world. There’s been like 2 Persona spin-off games on 3DS and those did well. Persona has had a presence on Nintendo platform prior. It’s actually in the same group as Kingdom Hearts if you ask me. Is it worth stepping in and paying for a true port or just rolling with that cloud bullshit? You tell me. I mean Square Enix looks bad and Nintendo ultimately doesn’t but I wouldn’t have let that cloud KH shit happen. I would’ve stepped in and paid for a true port of the series. I bet it would’ve done a million in a short time frame.
 
the funniest scenario is persona 3, 4 and 5 and the pixel remasters all skipping switch and launching exclusively on xbox.
lol lmao lathe of heaven activated
Man you’d think Atlus liked murdered your kids or something based on this announcement for some of y’all in the gaming space.
atlus just doesn't give a rat ass about the switch. the sooner people come to terms with that the better off we all will be.
 
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I find it very interesting that Persona 5 Royal releases on Oct 21st and P3P and P4G were shown on the recap chart as being simply 2023 releases. I mean sure P5R is the most requested as its the best selling Persona game and most recent game but it still stands as an odd choice with 2 last gen/portable game ports not releasing until sometime in the 1st half of 2023... You'd think they would be willing to put all 3 out close to each other since the prior 2 are from prior ages ago.
 
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My point is that Persona is very big in JAPAN and has a sizable fanbase in other places of the world. There’s been like 2 Persona spin-off games on 3DS and those did well. Persona has had a presence on Nintendo platform prior. It’s actually in the same group as Kingdom Hearts if you ask me. Is it worth stepping in and paying for a true port or just rolling with that cloud bullshit? You tell me. I mean Square Enix looks bad and Nintendo ultimately doesn’t but I wouldn’t have let that cloud KH shit happen. I would’ve stepped in and paid for a true port of the series. I bet it would’ve done a million in a short time frame.

Like I said, there's going to be a price point that Nintendo isn't willing to pay for certain ports. It's a cost and benefit proposition and there's gonna be a price point that is above it's perceived value. Nintendo already dominates the sales charts in Japan. If the sales of a Persona game does not make more than what Nintendo would pay for the port, then they aren't going to do it. That's different from Microsoft who basically has no presences in Japan and who is desperate to create the perception that Game Pass is the place to play Japanese games. So they are willing to spend more money on ports because they think it will benefit them in achieving those goals.
 
Like I said, there's going to be a price point that Nintendo isn't willing to pay for certain ports. It's a cost and benefit proposition and there's gonna be a price point that is above it's perceived value. Nintendo already dominates the sales charts in Japan. If the sales of a Persona game does not make more than what Nintendo would pay for the port, then they aren't going to do it. That's different from Microsoft who basically has no presences in Japan and who is desperate to create the perception that Game Pass is the place to play Japanese games. So they are willing to spend more money on ports because they think it will benefit them in achieving those goals.
Kingdom Hearts, Grand Theft Auto V and Persona 5 Royal all would’ve got a million sold OR recovered porting costs within a short time frame. It wouldn’t have taken multiple years for those games to hit a million. Nintendo Switch effect is still strong and those 3 series are series that I’ve seen casuals and diehards demand for the Switch. Most people don’t care about that cloud bullshit. That’s not a good answer at all and I hope Nintendo doesn’t seriously think people would have a cloud version than a real port of a 3rd party game. If it’s getting to the point where 3rd party developers rather do that cloud shit then yes. We need to go back to the power chasing and make sure Switch 2 doesn’t have this problem.

But again, I’m not even really mad at Nintendo or anything for not paying for Persona because it IS a slippery slope. But I am still disappointed and shaking my head in disbelief.
 
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Nintendo poaching from ATLUS resulted in ACNH selling almost 40m copies.
That’s a different case, I meant more doing like Grezzo or Good-Feel But that would mean one of the big memebers of Atlus leaving and creating their own studio + being close enough to Nintendo to get their support
 
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Anniversary site updated. It's just Xbox and Windows PC (No Steam).

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I've been holding out for a 3 release on PC but pretty disappointed that it's portable. Will probably just emulate FES whenever I feel like playing it at this point.

Still haven't played P5R (only played Vanilla), so getting that on PC with mods will be pretty great.
 
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Hopefully some people will calm down now.
This should have been obvious when Nintendo didn't share the Silksong trailer and PlayStation version of Silksong is nowhere to be seen...

Also, Persona announcements say Windows but not MS Store. This is most likely that the games are Steam bound but the embargo prevents mentioning the name "Steam".
No Steam, no buy
Look my above post. There's a platform embargo on games. It's coming to Steam but they can't say so.
 
If I were an Atlas/Persona fan and a switch owner I would never buy a game from them again. I mean switch it's the market leader and that game is more than suited for it's target audience and people have been asking for persona 5 for almost the console entire life span and then announce it for Xbox with it's zero presence in Japan. It's just obscene at this point.
 
If I were an Atlas/Persona fan and a switch owner I would never buy a game from them again. I mean switch it's the market leader and that game is more than suited for it's target audience and people have been asking for persona 5 for almost the console entire life span and then announce it for Xbox with it's zero presence in Japan. It's just obscene at this point.
Just support the games you want to play and deserve it, if you think Atlus should bring more games to Switch you are not going to help your case by not buying the games when they come. Of course I'm not saying buy Atlus games so they come to Switch, just buy the games you think deserve it, but trying to boycot Atlus makes no sense. In my case even if I have a laptop to play the games I prefer to always play my games on Switch because it's not only being portable that helps me a lot but the hability to Switch between portable and home console, so if a game isn't amazing (or from my fav series) I'm not going to bother if it doesn't come to Switch but if Atlus releases them on Switch I will probably buy them if they are good games like in 13S case
 
coming to PS5 and Steam as well
Persona is also heading to PS5 and Steam, no Switch


A press release shared with Eurogamer states: "These beloved games will also be heading to Steam and PlayStation 5". However, without a release date, this could be a timed exclusive for Xbox and PC.

Persona 4 Golden, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, and Persona 5 Strikers are already available on Steam, so it makes sense to complete the set.

Persona 5 Royal is synonymous with PlayStation, but was recently removed from the PS Plus Collection of PS4 games available on Sony's new console. Meanwhile Persona 3 Portable was originally released on the PSP and Persona 4 Golden on the PS Vita.
 
Come on Fami, I understand the frustration, but why on earth would anyone in their right mind want to release JRPGs on the Switch. It's just bad business.
 
"We have a device for portable Persona, and it's called a Steam Deck ;)"
Nintendo: 'We have something for Atlus, being relevant in Japan ;) '
In the end all 3rd parties will have to choose between being relevant on Japan or keep skipping Nintendo hardware
 
They can’t say Switch yet because Nintendo probably told them they can’t say anything until the “Persona is coming to Switch” bit in the Direct airs
P4AU was not announced in a direct. Atlus had their chance to say it. They’re not coming.
 


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