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StarTopic Nintendo Switch Sports |ST| WiiSPN 3 (Golf Update is Live)

What future sports would you like to see added?

  • Archery

    Votes: 56 48.7%
  • Baseball/Softball

    Votes: 54 47.0%
  • Basketball

    Votes: 33 28.7%
  • Boxing

    Votes: 44 38.3%
  • Frisbee/Disc Golf

    Votes: 32 27.8%
  • Power Cruising/Air Sports

    Votes: 28 24.3%
  • Table Tennis

    Votes: 44 38.3%
  • Lacrosse

    Votes: 10 8.7%
  • Croquet

    Votes: 7 6.1%
  • Handball

    Votes: 13 11.3%
  • Pickle ball

    Votes: 5 4.3%
  • Other (mention in comments)

    Votes: 2 1.7%

  • Total voters
    115
I enjoyed those duels during the Online Play Test, but quickly discovered in the full release it's a game I've no desire to get good at.
I've found myself feeling exactly the same way. It's too imposing and frustrating, and very little fun to improve in online. I'd much rather put that time and effort into Splatoon
 
1. Soccer - It's the best depiction of what a match of the real thing looks like since the PES Playmaker days. I get great joy from a soccer game where positioning is more important than dribbling or shooting skills. I've employed zonal marking in this game and I've employed man-to-man marking, and I've switched fluidly between them and both tactics make sense and are rewarded! That gets an A27+ from me.

2. Volleyball - It's basically a game about timing, not much deeper than a series of well-disguised quicktime events, but there's just enough opportunities to disrupt opponent's rhythm to create exciting back and forths. I always considered volleyball a top tier video game sport, and it feels nice to have this cool little playable proof that's easy to jump into for a match or two.

3. Tennis - It's Wii Tennis with less precision and more strategy. I don't have the precision on my shot placement like I used to have back in my Wii Sports days, either because the motion controls are worse or I'm old and washed up and suck now. Either way, the new stamina mechanic makes up for whatever we may have lost going from Wiimote to Joy-Con.

4. Bowling - It's Bowling. Golf, when it comes out, will probably get a similar rating of "It's Golf."

5. Badminton - It's my least favorite of my most played sports. I've given the controls plenty time and chances to click with me. So far they won't. If they ever do, Badminton would easily move above Bowling and Tennis.

6. Chambara - It's a fun, dumb time until you run into someone who mastered the way of the sword. I enjoyed those duels during the Online Play Test, but quickly discovered in the full release it's a game I've no desire to get good at.
Agree with your list, soccer and volleyball are easily the two best sports in this game imo. Makes the whole package worth it.
 
My four are original happy, cool sunglasses smiley (which I mostly use as a I/We got this), the about to cry smiley face, and the girl crying (which in Soccer I sometimes use for out of stamina lol). So two degrees of positive and two degrees of negative.

I’m hoping we get a straight I’m sorry emote in the future.

The idea of using the Cry or Oh No stamp for when I'm running out of stamina and whoever I'm in a sprinting contest with is about to overtake me and head the ball into goal is enough to make me wanna put those back in my set, haha.

Would have to find what to get rid of, tho. I can't live without the Shocked face. I spam that everytime the Golden Ball shows up to signal my wonder and amazement at witnessing such a sight.

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Here is the newest set of options. I will try my best to post them behind the spoiler tag each week at least for the foreseeable future.
 


Here is the newest set of options. I will try my best to post them behind the spoiler tag each week at least for the foreseeable future.

the thread knows about the three set variants, right?

green eye gang represent
 
I had a great session this evening, and I've developed my thoughts on the sports a bit more.

1. Badminton
This is, to my mind, a quintessential representation of the series. You swing in directions with varying force, with potential to miss by way of timing or positioning. It's ultimately quite simple, but very fun to play and refine.

2. Volleyball
The more I play it, the more I enjoy it. Yes, the basic gameplay is very simple, but the different motions are satisfying to pull off, and the teamwork is great fun.

3. Tennis
I still like tennis on Nintendo Switch, but it has become a very precise, nerve-wracking game. While badminton encourages or even demands broad movements, I always end up playing tennis with my Joy-Con close to my chest, trying to carefully swing at the exact moment and in the exact way needed. I enjoy it, but I somehow also don't find it very fun.

4. Soccer (Football)
I really, really want to love this game's take on soccer. It has a ton of Wii energy, from the oversized ball to the silly head bunting, but I still can't get it to actually work consistently. The passing function is especially unpredictable, often leading to devastating results. The greater positioning, strategy, and teamwork also afford it points. It's the reverse of tennis: I find it very fun, but I somehow don't enjoy it.

5. Bowling
Bowling is functional, ostensibly. It works as bowling does. The survival matches are a fun idea, but when I'm on a losing streak I get sick of playing three frames at a time.

6. Chambara
It's the only game of the six I didn't play this evening. I really, really hate it.
 
I’m curious what does the three set variants mean? Is that why some people seemingly have slightly different stuff?
yep, everyone gets either the A set, B set, or C set for each collection

"green eyes" are one of the unique items in the first simple collection that identifies one of the groups
 
yep, everyone gets either the A set, B set, or C set for each collection

"green eyes" are one of the unique items in the first simple collection that identifies one of the groups
Huh that’s interesting. I think I have green eyes? Hoping we get everything ultimately even if it is shuffled around for a bit. I want a green hair color. I think only CPUs have that so far.
 
Had a good night playing most of these games.

Bowling- I still manage to get into the top 3, but I cannot figure my grove out to save my life.

Volleyball- This is probably my favorite new game in the series. I love the back and forth and spiking.

Tennis- Classic, but fun. I have been on a good streak lately.

Soccer- I have a lot of fun playing as goalie. I wish there were some more communication options between teammates, but otherwise it is a blast.

Chambara- It is like playing chess, and I love it.

Badminton- Ok, this is the one game where I am absolutely helpless. All I can do is volley back and forth before I fall down on a spike. Not sure what I am doing wrong, but I need to get better at this game.


Also still waiting on Golf to show up......
 
This game really didn’t have any longevity for me.

The games are all fun at first but I don’t really have much desire to just do the same matches online over and over.

Would have preferred a more robust offline experience, ranking up, getting high scores etc.
 
Badminton- Ok, this is the one game where I am absolutely helpless. All I can do is volley back and forth before I fall down on a spike. Not sure what I am doing wrong, but I need to get better at this game.
you need to really exaggerate your swings. if you swing left or right it'll go left or right. carefully using the drop shot helps too
 
How do you play tennis? my shots is not accurate even though i try to swing the joy cons to the right but sometime the ball goes to another direction so i decided to swing it randomly like a lunatic
 
How do you play tennis? my shots is not accurate even though i try to swing the joy cons to the right but sometime the ball goes to another direction so i decided to swing it randomly like a lunatic
timing is super precise in tennis. I tend to play very reservedly. badminton on the other hand is all about big swings
 
The game has decided that I don't get to play bowling anymore. Three times I queued up for bowling and three times I got the special lanes that I hate. My rank is D-. I turned off the ranking specifically to avoid this stuff. The spin just doesn't work. I can twist my entire arm around and do a freaking backflip and the ball will go perfectly straight.

I thought I was going to stick around for a little while to get the cosmetics but I only got as far as getting the first one this week before tapping out. Getting crappy bowling over and over again and being paired up with the worst teammates possible in the other sports just makes playing the game absolutely infuriating.

I had fun for a couple of weeks. I don't regret getting the game, I just wanted to pour out all my salt.
 
How do you play tennis? my shots is not accurate even though i try to swing the joy cons to the right but sometime the ball goes to another direction so i decided to swing it randomly like a lunatic

The direction of your swing doesn't matter in tennis. Shot placement depends on the timing of when you hit the ball. Early and you'll send the ball cross-court the way you swung the racket across your body, e.g. left on a right-handed forehand, right on a right-handed backhand. Late and the return will go down the line, so straight or even further towards the side of your body the ball was at when you hit it.
 
I’m very surprised with badminton. I thought it was going to be my least-favorite sport and I hated that we got it instead of something like table tennis. But it’s honestly my favorite sport of the six so far.
 
I’m very surprised with badminton. I thought it was going to be my least-favorite sport and I hated that we got it instead of something like table tennis. But it’s honestly my favorite sport of the six so far.
It is really fun and you can get some really good rallies going with people. Gets pretty strategic if you go up against someone that knows what they are doing. Definitely my favorite.
 
Had my first opponent rage quit. Guess they didn’t like getting worked in badminton. Wish I still got the points for this since it’s a big waste of time to get no progress.
 
Had my first opponent rage quit. Guess they didn’t like getting worked in badminton. Wish I still got the points for this since it’s a big waste of time to get no progress.
I've rage quit by setting the controller down, which actually times you out after a bit

there's a non-negligible chance your opponent threw their joy-con across the room and got disconnected that way
 
I am simultaneously the best player in the world in Badminton and the worst that ever was in Tennis. I have no idea what I'm doing either way.
 
I had a great session this evening, and I've developed my thoughts on the sports a bit more.

1. Badminton
This is, to my mind, a quintessential representation of the series. You swing in directions with varying force, with potential to miss by way of timing or positioning. It's ultimately quite simple, but very fun to play and refine.

2. Volleyball
The more I play it, the more I enjoy it. Yes, the basic gameplay is very simple, but the different motions are satisfying to pull off, and the teamwork is great fun.

3. Tennis
I still like tennis on Nintendo Switch, but it has become a very precise, nerve-wracking game. While badminton encourages or even demands broad movements, I always end up playing tennis with my Joy-Con close to my chest, trying to carefully swing at the exact moment and in the exact way needed. I enjoy it, but I somehow also don't find it very fun.

4. Soccer (Football)
I really, really want to love this game's take on soccer. It has a ton of Wii energy, from the oversized ball to the silly head bunting, but I still can't get it to actually work consistently. The passing function is especially unpredictable, often leading to devastating results. The greater positioning, strategy, and teamwork also afford it points. It's the reverse of tennis: I find it very fun, but I somehow don't enjoy it.

5. Bowling
Bowling is functional, ostensibly. It works as bowling does. The survival matches are a fun idea, but when I'm on a losing streak I get sick of playing three frames at a time.

6. Chambara
It's the only game of the six I didn't play this evening. I really, really hate it.
Interesting, our opinions on tennis and badminton are diverging in opposite ways lol. In badminton, I'm basically just doing my absolute best to make sure I don't swing too early and hitting it either left or right. There doesn't seem to be much to it other than hitting it where your opponent isn't without mis-hitting it, and I'm finding it's somehow overly intense yet dull at the same time. I think this comes from essentially needing to mess up to actually lose a point; it's very, very difficult to consistently set up good shots against anyone who knows how to play defensively, leading to very drawn-out rallies that get stuck in the same ~6 shot loops.

Meanwhile in tennis I'm having great fun aiming shots and mixing up spin. It's somehow more forgiving while also giving you opportunities to be more directly aggressive.

The direction of your swing doesn't matter in tennis
I don't think that's accurate to say, even if swinging right doesn't mean the ball goes right. It's usually easier to aim a shot that goes across you than an inside-out one; there's still advantages to being deliberate with the side of your body you choose, and the side you pick determines how timing changes the direction.
 
I could use some troubleshooting help.

I used to be able to play online co-op with one NSO profile and one local-only profile. When I tried the same yesterday, the system prompted me to link the local profile to a Nintendo online account, which I don’t want to do, and canceling out sent me back to the profile select screen.

Has something changed recently in the software or am I doing something wrong on my end?
 
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I've been playing this game every morning since release
I work out of my closet (only space we could find lol) and have the switch dock in the bedroom. Whenever I have a bit of downtime for a meeting I come out and play a match or two while I wait. Pretty good way to play it.
 
Was away these past few days so I’m catching up on Switch Sports today. Had a great string of sword fighting victories and then a string of losses lol. Having a great time with Soccer still.

I hope we get a sequel to crying girl emote with a tears of joy emote.
 
Special lanes bowling needs to be its own lobby. It has nothing to do with real bowling. None of the other sports have to suffer this nonsense beyond the golden ball in Soccer which doesn’t terribly alter the game and is a set element with clear rules.
 
Looking at the map of the various sports and what's open now do you think that we will get baseball, as on the right hand side you can clearly see a baseball stadium not open Yet! Have water sports via jettys that are dotted around.
I feel the map clearly will move to your right as that looks like where the start of the golf course starts as you can see tons of trees.
When this does or if it does I feel this will open up more sports.

What does everybody think?
 
Looking at the map of the various sports and what's open now do you think that we will get baseball, as on the right hand side you can clearly see a baseball stadium not open Yet! Have water sports via jettys that are dotted around.
I feel the map clearly will move to your right as that looks like where the start of the golf course starts as you can see tons of trees.
When this does or if it does I feel this will open up more sports.

What does everybody think?
I hope we get more sports beyond Golf. I think they covered their bases by having areas for more sports, but I’m not super hopeful there will be more than one more after Golf for a total of eight beyond a paid expansion.
 
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Looking at the map of the various sports and what's open now do you think that we will get baseball, as on the right hand side you can clearly see a baseball stadium not open Yet! Have water sports via jettys that are dotted around.
I feel the map clearly will move to your right as that looks like where the start of the golf course starts as you can see tons of trees.
When this does or if it does I feel this will open up more sports.

What does everybody think?

It does't really look like a baseball stadium to me, it's too small and those are usually open at the top. I'm pretty sure dataminers found traces of two other sports though: Basketball and Dodgeball. Sadly it was nothing substantial so it's not certain whether they will actually be added later or not.

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It does't really look like a baseball stadium to me, it's too small and those are usually open at the top. I'm pretty sure dataminers found traces of two other sports though: Basketball and Dodgeball. Sadly it was nothing substantial so it's not certain whether they will actually be added later or not.

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I agree that bottom right spot doesn’t currently look related to any sport. My guess is when they add Golf, they’ll add some kind of construction in that spot to show one more thing is coming to have fun with it.

I don’t think you really get a view of that area from any other sport right? The random button lives near there now, but that could be moved.
 
I agree that bottom right spot doesn’t currently look related to any sport. My guess is when they add Golf, they’ll add some kind of construction in that spot to show one more thing is coming to have fun with it.

I don’t think you really get a view of that area from any other sport right? The random button lives near there now, but that could be moved.

Yeah, the only way to catch a glimpse of that building would be from one of the Tennis courts during replays, not very feasible.
 
I'm mixed on the bowling special lanes. Ultimately, I think I don't mind them at all, because the elimination format they have is a terrible match for standard bowling. The fact that a split in the first frame guaranteed I wouldn't even make it to round two despite throwing two strikes after while still in an E rank lobby is just plain silly; I likely would've made at least top 5 if we were all allowed to bowl 10 frames.

Part of the funny thing is that if said split came on frame 3, it probably wouldn't have hindered me at all. My score would've been high enough to move on and I would've had time to recover from it in the second round. This format puts a weird emphasis on different frames, making some more important than others for reasons that have nothing to do with how bowling actually works.

Which brings me to my next point, the format in general is not designed for everyone to be throwing strikes every frame, but that happens pretty much as early as D rank. The special lanes do play entirely different, but imo they're necessary to have the game work online.
 
I got an email from Nintendo today titled "Nintendo fans, we value your feedback" that was actually a Switch Sports survey. I wrote about why regular bowling and special lanes bowling need to be separate lobbies. Hope it happens!
 
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From the Ask the Developer interview:

Morii: There are many different items, and we worked pretty hard on this part. We are still working on new items even after launch and will release about 10 items* in each weekly update during the first year after launch, including outfits, stamps and titles. We think players will have fun just collecting the items.

 
I’m guessing they’ll add more with the Golf update. They’ll need to offer Golf gear and titles as part of the weekly items.

Definitely and there's other stuff in the code hinting at body types and outfits that aren't in the game yet.
 
This is the graphic I was googling for a few weeks ago to more easily explain how timing and direction work in Tennis.

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Reading the developer interview I'm definitely glad that they didn't stray too far from some of Wii Sport's core tenets. The pick up and play nature of these games and the "immediacy" of seeing the player's movements reflected in the game are imo vital elements. It's been fun to play a few rounds with my girlfriend and brother and I think that would have been lost with their robot concept.

However:

You have mentioned that you made this title more user-friendly for players to enjoy playing on their own. What were the key points you focused on in this process?

Shimamura:
From the very beginning, we wanted players to enjoy the online matches as the main feature of the single-player mode. We felt that in the Wii Sports series, the fun you get playing alone against computer-controlled opponents would be nowhere near the joy you get playing with others. That's why we wanted to overcome this challenge with the online matches this time.

I'm somewhat confused by this assessment of the original's appeal. Yes, playing together is very fun but it's also a decidedly different experience from what you get out of playing against CPU characters. I really don't agree with the rationale that one can replace the other and feel like there's a little bit of a disconnect between what the dev team took away from Wii Sports and Resort and what some of the most enthusiastic fans enjoyed about them.

It's been said before but Wii Sports always felt to me like it was inspired by early NES and arcade games where score chasing was also a big part of it. I don't think Matt would have reached memetic status if people weren't playing these games by themselves:

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Not to mention that they just straight up removed entire modes or the training games from Club. It's a shame that they prioritized one playstyle over the other to this degree.
 


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